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The green thing

 

In the line at the store, the cashier told the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bag because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized to him and explained, "We didn't have the green thing back in my day.

The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. The former generation did not care enough to save our environment."

He was right, that generation didn't have the green thing in its day."
Back then, they returned their milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled.

But they didn't have the green thing back in that customer's day.
In her day, they walked up stairs, because they didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to go two blocks.

But she was right. They didn't have the green thing in her day.
Back then, they washed the baby's diapers because they didn't have the throw-away kind. They dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts - wind and solar power really did dry the clothes. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that old lady is right; they didn't have the green thing back in her day.
Back then, they had one TV, or radio, in the house - not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief, not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, they blended and stirred by hand because they didn't have electric machines to do everything for you. When they packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, they used a wadded up old newspaper to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, they didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. They used a push mower that ran on human power. They exercised by working so they didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; they didn't have the green thing back then.
They drank from a fountain when they were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time they had a drink of water. They refilled their writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and they replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But they didn't have the green thing back then.
Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or rode the school bus instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. They had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And they didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful the old folks were just because they didn't have the green thing back then?

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Excellent Post!

Excellent post! Everybody needs to read that one!

Amen...

to that. Thanks.

I do remember and participated in most of that even as a youngster. It all rings true.

Elevator

flaco wrote:

... But they didn't have the green thing back in that customer's day.
In her day, they walked up stairs, because they didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to go two blocks.

I'm in the elevator business. A few years back I had an elevator in a health club shutdown for repairs. The members at the club all complained. After all, they now had to walk a single flight of stairs to the second floor track that overlooked the exercise floor to jog on the rubber padded running surface.

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So....

bear007 wrote:
flaco wrote:

... But they didn't have the green thing back in that customer's day.
In her day, they walked up stairs, because they didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to go two blocks.

I'm in the elevator business. A few years back I had an elevator in a health club shutdown for repairs. The members at the club all complained. After all, they now had to walk a single flight of stairs to the second floor track that overlooked the exercise floor to jog on the rubber padded running surface.

Are you saying that your elevator doesn't go to the top floor? grin

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Health Concerns

I saw an article recently about reusable canvas grocery bags spreading harmful germs including Staph. Not the main point of the post, but that's my two cents.

Slightly off topic

At work, we're not allowed to put our lunch in the refrigerator if it's in a brown bag or a thermal lunch box or a grocery bag.

There were an outbreak of something nasty and the Health Dept said that many of containers have sat on the floor of buses, floors of elevators, floors of restaurants etc and picked up germs.

We have to remove our food from the outer container before placing in the refrigerator.

Just like them guys riding bikes over the weekend...

bear007 wrote:

I'm in the elevator business. A few years back I had an elevator in a health club shutdown for repairs. The members at the club all complained. After all, they now had to walk a single flight of stairs to the second floor track that overlooked the exercise floor to jog on the rubber padded running surface.

You know, the guys that say they are into sports - but only on a five-ounce bike with the thinnest tyres, skimpiest clothes (and overflowing beer-belly, like mine...), and they of course refuse to drive on the bike lanes.

Now I'm just your average dude, driving a 4x4 SUV, going to the bakery to get some bread for the family.I don't care what they think, because none of them will EVER manage to drive up my alley on their machines, and only one of us will give some leeway to other users of the road. Nope - won't be the guys that are "doing their exercise".

Now I have nothing against sports. I do aqua-biking, and that's more sweating that anything THEY'll ever get to do. And if I ever want to get on a bike, it'll probably be an ATV - what we call a VTT here in France. It's heavy, large-tired, it's got plenty of appropriate gears for driving up the hills. It's got a wide and comfy saddle, therefore preventing me from walking with padded pants - oops, Sir - I believe you have a gastric problem there... Nope, just came here by bike, is all...

And I won't mind driving where bikes are supposed to be - on the BIKE's PATH !!! And not five of them abreast, taking all the width of the mountain road, and giving hell to anyone who would dare complaining about their lack of manners.

Ah, but then again, I'm from the old school, from when we didn't have the green thing... Darn, sometimes I miss that time - and I'm afraid I'm not the only one in this crowd.

Did I say "Fear" ? Nah - In fact, I'm Most Happy to be in that crowd, in good company smile

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Ain't nuthin' never just right to do the things you wanna do when you wanna do them, so you best just go ahead and do them anyway ! (Rancid Crabtree, from Pat F McManus fame)

forget

I shows how narrow minded some people are.

Not this elevator

shrifty wrote:
bear007 wrote:
flaco wrote:

... But they didn't have the green thing back in that customer's day.
In her day, they walked up stairs, because they didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. They walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time they had to go two blocks.

I'm in the elevator business. A few years back I had an elevator in a health club shutdown for repairs. The members at the club all complained. After all, they now had to walk a single flight of stairs to the second floor track that overlooked the exercise floor to jog on the rubber padded running surface.

Are you saying that your elevator doesn't go to the top floor? grin

In this particular building the track is the top and 2nd floor ... and that is all the elevator goes to. The track is the only thing on the 2nd floor. A real waste of money, energy, resources, etc. A true example of NON-green.

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Uh Bear? You missed the 'elevator' yourself...

Re-read it. SLOWLY this time...

shrifty wrote:

Are you saying that your elevator doesn't go to the top floor? grin

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.

Duh!

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Good Bear!

Bear want cookie? mrgreen

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bear likes cookie ... yum!

bear likes cookie ... yum!

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'One Big Cookie' for Bear!

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Thanks for the cookie. It

Thanks for the cookie. It looks pretty dang good. Now I have to get up and go raid the pantry to find something good (sweet)to munch on!

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Nice sized cookie

bear007 wrote:

Thanks for the cookie. It looks pretty dang good. Now I have to get up and go raid the pantry to find something good (sweet)to munch on!

One big cookie! I had a small cookie tonight sad

Back to the green thing (not that I'm into it), my Jetta TDI gets far better mileage than my Honda CB350 for some reason. I'd say almost close to double.

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the green thing

Couldn't have said it better.

Not so sure

The clerk might be right to a degree, if you think about it.

What degree are ya talking about ?

Would it be a doctorate, or an MBA ?

The person seemed healthy enough, so there should be no need for a doctor-ate wink

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Ain't nuthin' never just right to do the things you wanna do when you wanna do them, so you best just go ahead and do them anyway ! (Rancid Crabtree, from Pat F McManus fame)

He said they didn't care

Good one.

The clerk might be right, but only in the sense that as a society many practices were harmful. By "to a degree" I simply meant that I didn't necessarily agree with his blanket assessment that "THEY" didn't care. The old lady might have cared. Maybe many did, but there may have been many who didn't. I tend to think they just didn't think about it, didn't understand the impact, or they didn't have the technology to do it better. Maybe it was thought it wasn't harmful. I think I read or saw somewhere a reference to belief that at one time we thought the oceans were so vast we would have little impact on them. Of course, there were a lot fewer of us.

frame of reference

flaco wrote:

In the line at the store, the cashier told the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bag because plastic bags weren't good for the environment. The woman apologized to him and explained, "We didn't have the green thing back in my day.

The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. The former generation did not care enough to save our environment."

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful the old folks were just because they didn't have the green thing back then?

This story is also about the differing frames of reference. In "his day" (the clerk that is) everything came in disposable packaging for "convenience." The senior, and I'm one, didn't grow up in, or live in for that matter, a disposable society. We fixed things that were broke rather than throw them away. Walking, and bicycling were legitimate modes of transportation rather than forms of exercise. Items were made of wood and metal rather than plastic. You talked to a butcher at the local food store who cut your meat as you directed and then wrapped it in paper rather than buying prepackaged meats wrapped in plastic film on disposable trays.

Groceries were put into paper sacks by "Bag Boys" and the sacks were reused to wrap everything from compostable trash to presents and packages for mailing. If any of you are able to remember what was Dustin Hoffman's breakthrough file The Graduate, you may remember a very predictive line in which Dustin's character Benjamin Braddock was told "The future is in plastics." This was 1967 and we were well on our way to becoming a disposable nation.

Now, I'm not saying we need to go back over 40 years, but we need to keep the frame of reference of where each person in Flaco's story is.

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Back Then

I must agree about everything that was said about being green back then. But one thing we did that wasn't good back then was the burn our garbage. We had incernerators in our back yards. Anyone remember those?

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People back then sprayed

People back then sprayed chemicals like crazy on crops, and used x-rays to buy footwear, and didn't manage soil erosion so we had the black dust storms in the mid-west.

They didn't have choices back then, one wonders how they would have chosen had they been given these choices.

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Simply superb! I'll pass

Simply superb! I'll pass that one along to everyone I know!

Thanks.
Fred

Frame of reference

Box Car wrote:

Now, I'm not saying we need to go back over 40 years, but we need to keep the frame of reference of where each person in Flaco's story is.

Not just this story, but EVERYONE's frame of reference is limited to his own lifespan. And not your entire life-span, only that which you can remember.

And That's the problem with a lot of things. Nobody knows history, so it's bound to be repeated. That's why people build in flood plains....how many times have you heard somebody on the news say "I've never seen a flood like this before." ?
Well, rivers flood. So do areas lower than sea-level. That's why the nearby land is so fertile. Volcano's erupt, regardless of which millionaire built a recording studio nearby.
And, unfortunately the danger-prone areas are not as valuable for housing, and the land is relatively cheap. That's why most of the so-called "victims" are from the lower economic strata.

It won't fix all of society's ills, but if more people simply understood history........

Green Thing

Thank you. We also had a lot less trash overall because we did not buy what we did not need and what we did buy would last for years because it would be fixed, not replaced.

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taking a poll

How many here at one time or another had new soles put on old shoes because you couldn't afford new ones or wanted to save the planet?

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Old shoes

No, I did it because they were the most comfy shoes I had ever bought. I have a few Merrell's that are crap by comparison! Ahh, the good old days when things weren't made in China...

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Crap, I remember most of

Crap, I remember most of those so that makes me an old geezer??

My desert boots.

I had them re-soled twice 'cause I liked them so much.

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speaking of crap

gus2259 wrote:

Crap, I remember most of those so that makes me an old geezer??

When I was a kid, you know back in the day when we all were polluters and energy wasters. Women used to actually wash poopie diapers, and also use rubber pants.

Today's energy saving society put all the diaper services out of business and are polluting our earth with crap filled disposable diapers that will be around for a long long time, probably out lasting the baby.

I apologize for my inconsiderate generation. rolleyes

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