Headphones kill people!

 

Honestly, it's not my idea. When those drivers-killers were distracting those "caring" lawmakers there is other group of people that are danger to society, and especially themselves. So they will be protected at all cost. So far they were flying under radar but finally that will end thanks to our Brave New World politicians.

What is it all about? It goes like this:

The proposal in Arkansas would ban pedestrians from wearing headphones in both ears while on, parallel or adjacent to a street, road, intersection or highway. The measure also applies to runners and cyclists and would allow pedestrians to wear headphones in one ear.

This battle to save people from themselves is going for some time in NY:

Democratic State Sen. Carl Kruger in New York has been trying since 2007 to ban the use of cell phones, iPods and other gadgets by pedestrians in major cities while crossing the street. The proposal would ban the use of an electronic device while crossing the crosswalk in a city with a population of one million or more. Violators would face a $100 civil fine.

source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110124/ap_on_re_us/us_distracte...

And not long ago I was asking how fast this run from government to control every aspect of life will go. And it looks like it's going at increasing speed.

hearing test

Next they need to require pedestrians to have a walking permit that shows they have passed a hearing test.

And pedstrians should demonstrate that they can walk and chew gum at the same time without being distracted.

The test

Evert wrote:

Next they need to require pedestrians to have a walking permit that shows they have passed a hearing test.

And pedstrians should demonstrate that they can walk and chew gum at the same time without being distracted.

They need to demonstrate that they can operate two feet at the same time without getting confused as to what each foot is doing. They will need to pass a written test on the proper (government approved) method of tying shoes laces.

I can not wait until one of

I can not wait until one of these politicians steps out infront of one of the Nissan Leafs or a Chevy Volt. What are they going to do then????

Mandate that all electric cars have 120db sirens that sound while the car is in motion????

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onestep wrote:

I can not wait until one of these politicians steps out infront of one of the Nissan Leafs or a Chevy Volt. What are they going to do then????

Mandate that all electric cars have 120db sirens that sound while the car is in motion????

Actually there are already proposals to require electric vehicles make a noise. They have not gone anywhere but advocates for the blind are pushing for it. I guess advocates for the deaf should be pushing to have all cars have bright flashing strobe lights.

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BS

it's a matter of a person's attention span. most of the people who failed to not look and get struck because they have a device on their ear??? how different is that from a person crossing the road and whose mind is thinking of something else?

all this is doing is making an inconvenience. not everyone who crosses the road on a bike or by foot with headphones on are idiots. even still, not everyone who has it in their ear actually have the device on. a lot of this is common sense issues.

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Unnatural

Isn't this interfering with natural selection?

Not to worry

edwardw66 wrote:

Isn't this interfering with natural selection?

If deprived of this opportunity to exit the gene pool, those destined to exit in a Darwinian fashion will just find another way. smile

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License type?

jackj180 wrote:
Evert wrote:

Next they need to require pedestrians to have a walking permit that shows they have passed a hearing test.

And pedstrians should demonstrate that they can walk and chew gum at the same time without being distracted.

They need to demonstrate that they can operate two feet at the same time without getting confused as to what each foot is doing. They will need to pass a written test on the proper (government approved) method of tying shoes laces.

Wouldn't they have to issue different license types like they do on vehicles now? Like class 1 for people walking alone, class 2 for mothers with one kid/stroller, class 3 when you have 2 kids, etc? razz

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Yep

Thanos_of_MW wrote:
jackj180 wrote:
Evert wrote:

Next they need to require pedestrians to have a walking permit that shows they have passed a hearing test.

And pedstrians should demonstrate that they can walk and chew gum at the same time without being distracted.

They need to demonstrate that they can operate two feet at the same time without getting confused as to what each foot is doing. They will need to pass a written test on the proper (government approved) method of tying shoes laces.

Wouldn't they have to issue different license types like they do on vehicles now? Like class 1 for people walking alone, class 2 for mothers with one kid/stroller, class 3 when you have 2 kids, etc? razz

You're right, I didn't think that far ahead. I wonder if they would issue a school transportation riders for mothers who walk their kids to school?

What do you think the mandated tread depth will be for running shoes?

headsets

Thanos_of_MW wrote:
jackj180 wrote:
Evert wrote:

Next they need to require pedestrians to have a walking permit that shows they have passed a hearing test.

And pedstrians should demonstrate that they can walk and chew gum at the same time without being distracted.

They need to demonstrate that they can operate two feet at the same time without getting confused as to what each foot is doing. They will need to pass a written test on the proper (government approved) method of tying shoes laces.

Wouldn't they have to issue different license types like they do on vehicles now? Like class 1 for people walking alone, class 2 for mothers with one kid/stroller, class 3 when you have 2 kids, etc? razz

will they issue classes of licenses for people that have difficulty hearing????

Don't know...

jackj180 wrote:
Thanos_of_MW wrote:
jackj180 wrote:
Evert wrote:

Next they need to require pedestrians to have a walking permit that shows they have passed a hearing test.

And pedstrians should demonstrate that they can walk and chew gum at the same time without being distracted.

They need to demonstrate that they can operate two feet at the same time without getting confused as to what each foot is doing. They will need to pass a written test on the proper (government approved) method of tying shoes laces.

Wouldn't they have to issue different license types like they do on vehicles now? Like class 1 for people walking alone, class 2 for mothers with one kid/stroller, class 3 when you have 2 kids, etc? razz

You're right, I didn't think that far ahead. I wonder if they would issue a school transportation riders for mothers who walk their kids to school?

What do you think the mandated tread depth will be for running shoes?

Don't know, but I'm wondering which months you will be allowed to use snow shoes and when to use "all season" sneakers. Maybe boots will get regulated too.

Would the penny test still work with shoes?

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Mmmm....

blake7mstr wrote:
Thanos_of_MW wrote:
jackj180 wrote:
Evert wrote:

Next they need to require pedestrians to have a walking permit that shows they have passed a hearing test.

And pedstrians should demonstrate that they can walk and chew gum at the same time without being distracted.

They need to demonstrate that they can operate two feet at the same time without getting confused as to what each foot is doing. They will need to pass a written test on the proper (government approved) method of tying shoes laces.

Wouldn't they have to issue different license types like they do on vehicles now? Like class 1 for people walking alone, class 2 for mothers with one kid/stroller, class 3 when you have 2 kids, etc? razz

will they issue classes of licenses for people that have difficulty hearing????

Maybe not, but you will have to prove that you have a permanently mounted hearing device, that will probably have to pass inspection. Maybe they'll issue a sticker to put on it, with an expiration month, so you have to get one every year. razz

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Devils advocate

Well the proponents of this will cite the video of the woman who fell in the fountain while texting as proof that it needs to be made law.

Quickly!

sushidan141 wrote:

Well the proponents of this will cite the video of the woman who fell in the fountain while texting as proof that it needs to be made law.

We should pass laws prohibiting fountains! They are dangerous and people could fall in and drown! mrgreen

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Mud puddles also

Thanos_of_MW wrote:
sushidan141 wrote:

Well the proponents of this will cite the video of the woman who fell in the fountain while texting as proof that it needs to be made law.

We should pass laws prohibiting fountains! They are dangerous and people could fall in and drown! mrgreen

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Maybe we have gone too far!

This has been a fun exercise in comedy but I think we might have gone too far. It occurs to me that we many be giving our representatives ideas on how to raise licensing revenue. Please remember that no idea is too ridiculous for a politician to present as a new tax or fee. Lets use caution and not give those leaches new ideas of how to suck our blood.

As witness, there will be a liar's club meeting carried on all TV networks tonight. Most of the world will be asleep and will miss the live broadcast.

Thin the herd

edwardw66 wrote:

Isn't this interfering with natural selection?

Beat me to it. My thought exactly. It's called thinning the herd.

There's only so much government can or even should do to protect people from their own stupidity.

Officials with too much time on their hands get a bee in their bonnet and say, Hey, wouldn't we better off if we prohibited this, that, or the other thing? Maybe we'd be better off without some people constantly trying to butt in to everybody else's business.

I'm not a Libertarian. Just saying a little common sense would be a good thing.

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Actually It's a Good Idea

Earphones can be dangerous--and malevolent. Just last week mine tried to strangle me while I had them on. I gave the would-be assassins a three-day time out. They're behaving again—but not sure they can now be trusted...

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Headphones kill people?

Do headphones contain poison or something? One would think that if a person wore headphones and got run over by a car the car did the killing and not the headphone itself. Our politicians should be careful what they legislate against.

Common Sense is an Oxymoron

dagarmin wrote:

[I'm not a Libertarian. Just saying a little common sense would be a good thing.

Seems that more often than not, what's being served up as 'sense' is anything but good. smile

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I did not realize inanimate

I did not realize inanimate objects had intentions.

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LOL....

LOL....

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Texting and driving?

In Florida (and many other states) the legislators are afraid to pass a law against texting and driving even though it has been prooven many times over that it is equal to being more than legally drunk and driving.
It would make sense then to raise the legal blood alcohol level to be the equivalent of texting & driving. Headphones on both ears may need to be factored in with the legal blood alcohol level.

Permit for everything

Sound funny.

Permit for everything: walking, sitting, walking while eating, listening, watching. They should charge some fees for permit too.

They should let us decide what's best to do. I saw many many pedestrian crossing intersection without looking both way (not listening to anything at all). That could be trouble too. I saw officer browsing on computer, texting while driving patrol car, and lot of many things.

The only thing law makers should do is record those incident/acident and publish to educate people and children.

you don't understand

stevennguyen wrote:

Sound funny.

Permit for everything: walking, sitting, walking while eating, listening, watching. They should charge some fees for permit too.

They should let us decide what's best to do. I saw many many pedestrian crossing intersection without looking both way (not listening to anything at all). That could be trouble too. I saw officer browsing on computer, texting while driving patrol car, and lot of many things.

The only thing law makers should do is record those incident/acident and publish to educate people and children.

I think you don't understand. Reason for all this laws is not to save or help somebody. It is just to make so many laws that practically nobody will be able to know them. Those laws very often are not even enforced and just sit in books. And nobody remembers them.

What's the point somebody asks? Just look an law enforcement. Especially on charges that are being piled up on people by prosecutors. They very often dig up this kind of laws when otherwise they have none or very weak case. But if you slam on somebody 20 or 30 charges there is a chance that some will stick. Or you scare the hell out of person and they plea guilty to something.

This same is done by police. After series of recordings that reviled police misconduct (often criminal) they slam on people law against recording encounter with police. It wasn't meant to protect police misconduct? Doesn't matter. Now it can be used this way. It all without any warnings, so next time nobody will dare to document even criminal cops.
(see here http://www.poi-factory.com/node/32043)

And that's what it is about. Control over population that looks like just weeding of "criminals". And you can be sure, that they always find enough people to cheer "law and order" because after all "it's the law".

I'm all for it !

Whatever "it" may be. This topic reminded me of a song by the Alan Parson Project, "I was loneley and depressed, having fled the family home, when I met an old ackquaintance I had only barely known"....

The rest of the song is so sweet indeed.

But seriously, now, about this topic. I refuse to defile Master Darwin any further. Let them wear headphones, bust their hearings while they're at it, and step in front of (other people's) cars when they cross the street without paying attention. Survival of the Fittest.

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Just to be on the safe side, I won't be testing this. I don't overly trust other people's good judgemeng to avoid splashing me all across the pavement. And then have someone blame them (while I was at fault).

Nah, just not my style...

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Oh, what permits were you other posters mentionning ? I just might try and apply for one. Better safe than sorry, as they say grin

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A wisecrack from college days

"I was cited for jaywalking. I had the ticket dismissed after taking a defensive walking class."

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Excellent point

grzesja wrote:

What's the point somebody asks? Just look an law enforcement. Especially on charges that are being piled up on people by prosecutors. They very often dig up this kind of laws when otherwise they have none or very weak case. But if you slam on somebody 20 or 30 charges there is a chance that some will stick. Or you scare the hell out of person and they plea guilty to something.

And that's what it is about. Control over population that looks like just weeding of "criminals". And you can be sure, that they always find enough people to cheer "law and order" because after all "it's the law".

It's an excellent point. Police can apply a law like this selectively to charge, detain, and further search and interrogate, for example, a young person in particular walking around with headphones that they're just suspicious of. Maybe in so doing, they find drugs or a weapon they otherwise would not have found. You've heard of DWB, Driving While Black? Now you can have WWB.

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Wow!

Methinks a bit of paranoia has set in here...

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Paranoid

Tuckahoemike wrote:

Methinks a bit of paranoia has set in here...

Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you!!!!!

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Paranoia? Thinks so?

Paranoia? You mean paranoia about paranoia? smile

Can anyone (except maybe a lawyer) explain to me why we need so many lawmakers in this “The Land Of The Free And The Home Of The Brave”? Does anybody really believe that we need all this control over our lives? Aren’t there enough laws already? Don’t we just need to enforce them?

The last legislation I believe we need, is to limit legislation. We should limit new legislation to new technology only. If it has just been invented, and it can be proven that there will be legal problems with this new technology, maybe then it should be looked at.

There are 100 full time United States Senators & 435 full time United States Congressman, and in addition there are 7,461 full time lawmakers on the States level and their sole purpose is to draw up new laws. Would someone like to figure out how many additional lawmakers there are on the county and municipal levels in this over legislated country of ours? I wouldn’t, but they sure seem to keep lawyers busy!

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hw]ere we go again

Tuckahoemike wrote:

Methinks a bit of paranoia has set in here...

I guess you are from crowd of "it will never happen in America. We are not Soviets or Nazis". But blind faith without seeing what is really going on made horrors of USSR and Nazis possible.

Just look at direction that law in USA is going and maybe you will see, that paranoia is last think to be concern of. This is actually happening as we speak:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/whitehead/whitehead25.1.html
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2011/01/about-that-war-...

you guys make america sound like a scary place to live in

tv much?

the simplest of infractions is whats most scary. you might think youre doing something right and next thing you know its a law that you can get penalized from. a lot of these are common sense stuff-- ie dont jaywalk, wear a seatbelt, etc etc.. i'd believe that the govt really wants to protect us if they didnt penalized us monetarily.

much of law these days including the speed traps are for monetary gains first.. safety second.

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Sunglasses at Night

are surely next. Thank god we'll soon be rid of this menace soon too.

And about time, too !

stirling wrote:

are surely next. Thank god we'll soon be rid of this menace soon too.

I wonder if the Secret Services employees will need to get rid of them as well ?

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Texting's About The Same..!!

Saw on TV a few days ago where a woman was walking in the mall texting and wasn't watching where she was going.. walked right over and into a fountain. Got soaked head to foot. Pulled herself out of the fountain soaking wet, looked around to see if anyone saw what had just happened and merrily walked away.. unharmed, but wet!

I've also seen news reports where kids have been texting on their phones and walked right off the curb into traffic. You would think people would know better.

Ain't life just grand?

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Did she send her unit for repair ?

Nuvi1300WTGPS wrote:

Saw on TV a few days ago where a woman was walking in the mall texting and wasn't watching where she was going.. walked right over and into a fountain. Got soaked head to foot. Pulled herself out of the fountain soaking wet, looked around to see if anyone saw what had just happened and merrily walked away.. unharmed, but wet!

I wonder what she said happened to the technician... Or did she ask someone to turn it in for her, on the off chance she'd be recognized and laughed away ?

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