Red-light camera tickets dismissed!
Thu, 01/20/2011 - 6:53am
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About 50 people have red-light camera tickets dismissed in West Palm and Palm Springs, Florida
This was in todays Sun-Sentinal Paper.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-palm-red-ligh...
Good stuff
Thanks.
I am still puzzled....
In the link said one person brought a passport saying that she was in Spain at that time but isn't it ticket the car instead of the owner? But since the owner own the car and someone can borrow the car and ran the redlight the owner has to find out who ran the redlight to paid for it or the owner has to paid for it.
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not the owner's responsibility
But since the owner own the car and someone can borrow the car and ran the redlight the owner has to find out who ran the redlight to paid for it or the owner has to paid for it.
It's not the owner's responsibility to determine who was driving. It's the police department's responsibility to charge the correct person.
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What does the ordinance say?
It's not the owner's responsibility to determine who was driving. It's the police department's responsibility to charge the correct person.
Do not many municipalities write the ordinance to specifically target the owner of the car as the responsible person? What does the ordinance in question say?
it's florida
It's not the owner's responsibility to determine who was driving. It's the police department's responsibility to charge the correct person.
Do not many municipalities write the ordinance to specifically target the owner of the car as the responsible person? What does the ordinance in question say?
And the discussion actually revolves around the rules of evidence that can be presented. Reports that were posted here a few days ago stated there was no link between the date stamped photo and the unstamped photo of the purported vehicle's license plate.
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Re: Not The Owner's Responsibility
But since the owner own the car and someone can borrow the car and ran the redlight the owner has to find out who ran the redlight to paid for it or the owner has to paid for it.
It's not the owner's responsibility to determine who was driving. It's the police department's responsibility to charge the correct person.
I would have to agree on this one. It is the prosecution's responsibility to determine that person being charged with the infraction is guilty of said infraction. The person who was out of the country is not responsible for said infraction.
Red light tickets
Basically they are ticketing the vehicle. None that I have seen have any photos or recordings of the Driver in the vehicle. Cities and Counties do write their ordinances to make it the Owner's responsibility for the ticket. That said, It is like everything else going on today (i.e. TSA "pat-downs" "naked" scans, etc.) We are told to give up our freedoms for the sake of "Public Safety". Cities and States using the code words of "Protecting the Public" put up the Redlight Cameras, but when records show 1 in 4 tickets were issued for slowing down for right turns, they blew it for the sake of building up falling revenues.
Will depend on the wording of the ordinance
It is the prosecution's responsibility to determine that person being charged with the infraction is guilty of said infraction. The person who was out of the country is not responsible for said infraction.
I say again that the ordinance controls. If your dog bites someone because it is not on a leash (assuming leash laws), then you get the charge, do you not?
It's like if your kid
It's like if your kid borrows your car and gets a parking ticket. The city doesn't care who parked the car, they care who owns it. That being said, it's nice to see someone fighting city hall and winning!
Goldstein Investigation: Are Police Tricking People Into Paying
Are police tricking people into paying snitch tickets?
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/02/07/goldstein-investig...
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The Ticket Goes To The Owner...
In the link said one person brought a passport saying that she was in Spain at that time but isn't it ticket the car instead of the owner? But since the owner own the car and someone can borrow the car and ran the redlight the owner has to find out who ran the redlight to paid for it or the owner has to paid for it.
But it is up to the issueing agency to determine who was actually at the wheel. The owner doen't have to prove anything, just that it wasn't her, she was in another country!
If you ain't got pictures, I wasn't there.
What if the owner is not human...
It happens so many times on our company vans.
We always get the ticket dismissed, because the vans are owned by the company, and we simply reply to the ticketing agencies as driver unknown when the face of the driver in the picture is not identifiable. (very low sun visor, etc.)
However, if the ticketing agencies can simply come with court orders to check the vehicle log, they can easily identify the driver. But, they have never done so. May be that is not "cost effective"?
Costs too much -
Yep - it costs them too much to find out who is driving so they just dismiss or cancel the ticket.
They should do that for me. The owner of my car is not human.