2011 Maps, are they worth it?

 

Just drove from Northern California to Phoenix, AZ. I have the 2009 maps in my Nuvi 650. I downloaded POIs, icons and sounds for gas stops. There are lots of new gas stations, strip malls, etc! But they never showed up on the screen. Sounds didn't work, icons never showed, empty fields are what I saw. Anyone that has downloaded 2011 maps, are you satisfied? Improvements? Or should I wait for the 2012 maps? Thanks for you help!

Norm

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Garmin Nuvi 650, Garmin eTrexLegend, Magellan 360

Lawlz!

After your description of your experience, I would have thought the question to be moot.

However... yes, they are worth it, IMO. I have the lifetime updates, cheaper than a one-shot buy.

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I'll second that

Juggernaut wrote:

After your description of your experience, I would have thought the question to be moot.

However... yes, they are worth it, IMO. I have the lifetime updates, cheaper than a one-shot buy.

IMO they are worth it. Especially if you travel a lot.

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Agreed

I agree with the previous replies. But from your post, it appears you're looking towards a One-Time map update. Most folks will suggest to you that this is a bad value--go for the lifetime updates. The only time to really avoid the cost of any update is if you plan to replace your GPS unit the next year or so.

Totally worth it.

I found that the new maps finally included some of the new roads that continue to be added to the Eastern parts of Arizona.

What I really was

wondering about is Garmin going full bore in upgrading their maps? For instance the community I'm in right now is 9 years old and still shows up as an empty field. Will it be on the new maps? I guess the only way to find out is to buy the "lifetime" updates. Thanks for pointing me in that direction.

Regards,

Norm

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Yes, worth it

New maps are worth it.

The new roads and updated database are well worth it.

I recently updated to CN2011 (lifetime) from 2008 and it was a good move.

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rettollcapt wrote:

For instance the community I'm in right now is 9 years old and still shows up as an empty field. Will it be on the new maps?

Have a look here for that answer: http://www8.garmin.com/cgi-bin/mapgen/webmap.cgi?p=149618689...

Zoom in to your community, and see.

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With the price of lifetime

With the price of lifetime maps being found so cheap on the internet.Its the only way to go.

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I don't necessarily agree

I don't necessarily agree with the suggestions here that a map update is worth it. It really depends on whether the map and/or POIs have been updated for areas that you frequent. You would have to find someone that frequents the areas that you travel to find that out.

Garmin gets its maps from NavTeq. Posts on the web suggest that NavTeq is notoriously slow at updating maps and POIs. I know that I reported a correction to them over a year and a half ago, and it does not appear in the latest update. I've heard that 2-3 years for a reported error is about normal. In this day and age of so many tools, it's hard to imagine why it would take so long to validate a reported error.

Regarding lifetime updates versus a one time update, it does seem that a lifetime update is the better value at first blush. But many people suggest that if you think you will replace your GPS in about 5 years, it would be better to buy a one time update around year 3. I suppose it depends on how much you travel and use your GPS, and how soon you might replace it. Your purchased map update (one time or lifetime) is only good for the associated GPS and doesn't follow to the replacement unit. I was planning to go with the year 3 suggestion but went for a lifetime update using a gift card (which made it feel like I got it for nothing ).

There are also free maps out there. Google "free Garmin maps" to learn more about that. I downloaded and installed a Mexico map from http://freegeographytools.com/2009/free-routable-street-maps... and it did seem to be pretty complete considering that Mexico maps are seriously lacking compared to USA maps. Once Garmin added Mexico to their North America package, I went that route. I haven't been back into Mexico lately to check the Garmin map but a cursory check showed that it was similar to the free map. I can't speak to any other free maps but some swear by them. Reportedly, updates are much quicker than NavTeq's maps.

Since you are on the fence, do your homework. That's my suggestion...

The way I look at it, if a

The way I look at it, if a person can afford the lifetime updates, why not do it?

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Rand McNally

I used to buy a new road atlas every year. That's why I bought the lifetime maps for my Nuvi. grin

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I bought Lifetime maps

I bought Lifetime maps for my "semi-retired" Nuvi 260+ for around $110. I have had 7 updates so far and will keep updating. Works out to $15.71 per update so far.
I bought my new 1490LMT with lifetime maps. Nothing wrong with the 260+ - just wanted the bigger screen and a few additional features.
Trusty 260 will remain in glove compartment as a backup. My C340, which sits in my toolbox in the trunk, still works and is my backups backup !

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Also depends

Whether it is worth it also depends how often you actually search for places in the Garmin/NavTeq database. If you almost exclusively use POI files rather than searching using the Garmin database, holding off on map updates may make sense.

But I agree with most others saying that generally if you plan on buying a map update package, the lifetime map updates quickly make the most economic sense.

No,

Juggernaut wrote:
rettollcapt wrote:

For instance the community I'm in right now is 9 years old and still shows up as an empty field. Will it be on the new maps?

Have a look here for that answer: http://www8.garmin.com/cgi-bin/mapgen/webmap.cgi?p=149618689...

Zoom in to your community, and see.

still not there but the Chevron station is. Things are looking better though. Thanks for the link!

Regards,

Norm

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Depends

JimmyJames11 wrote:

I found that the new maps finally included some of the new roads that continue to be added to the Eastern parts of Arizona.

I recently purchased lifetime maps for my Nuvi 1690 since I am retired and driving all over the country. I did notice that many roads in Northern Arizona are now there, whereas my old Nuvi 680 (which has never been updated) doesn't show the roads nor does it use some of the newer roads which are on the latest map. For $59 life-time maps, I believe that is a small price to pay if you are keeping your GPS for a while. If you are planning to purchase a newer GPS, the Nuvi 2460 LMT comes with life-time maps and has a 5 inch screen and Garmin lists it at $299 (much cheaper than my 680 when it came out - $750).

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I like the lifetime

It is a lot cheaper to update the nuvi than it is to update the nav in the car. wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper

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I'm not happy!

Well I decided to get lifetime updates. Went to the Garmin site and it tells me that my connection speed is toooo sloooow! 54 is too slow? Oh what to do!!

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This topic seems to be

This topic seems to be another reason smartphones are taking over.

Got a laptop?

rettollcapt wrote:

Well I decided to get lifetime updates. Went to the Garmin site and it tells me that my connection speed is toooo sloooow! 54 is too slow? Oh what to do!!

If you have a laptop, park yourself at a business offering free wifi and log in that way. Be prepared to spend a few hours as the speed isn't always as fast as advertised.

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A word of caution...

rettollcapt wrote:

Just drove from Northern California to Phoenix, AZ. I have the 2009 maps in my Nuvi 650. I downloaded POIs, icons and sounds for gas stops. There are lots of new gas stations, strip malls, etc! But they never showed up on the screen. Sounds didn't work, icons never showed, empty fields are what I saw. Anyone that has downloaded 2011 maps, are you satisfied? Improvements? Or should I wait for the 2012 maps? Thanks for you help!

Norm

You have the nuvi 650, which is discontinued and very possibly out of warranty. Have you ever thought about how many update you can get if you buy the life time map update.

Has anyone ever questioning why the MSRP gap between "T" and "LMT" models are bigger on new nuvi than the ones that have been on the market a few years? (3790LMT vs. 3790T and 1490LMT vs. 1490T).

I would save the money for a much newer model since the MSRP are lower on the new models than the older one when both of them have exact the same features.

Lifetime Map Update

I paid ca. $70 for the lifetime map update last January and I don't regret it at all.

RE: a word of caution

cameotabby wrote:
rettollcapt wrote:

Just drove from Northern California to Phoenix, AZ. I have the 2009 maps in my Nuvi 650. I downloaded POIs, icons and sounds for gas stops. There are lots of new gas stations, strip malls, etc! But they never showed up on the screen. Sounds didn't work, icons never showed, empty fields are what I saw. Anyone that has downloaded 2011 maps, are you satisfied? Improvements? Or should I wait for the 2012 maps? Thanks for you help!

Norm

You have the nuvi 650, which is discontinued and very possibly out of warranty. Have you ever thought about how many update you can get if you buy the life time map update.

But the 650 has features that are not available on newer units. Those features may be important to the OP.

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If they're properly

updated, then they're worth it. Businesses are still going belly up leaving old info that can lead to fraustration.

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Mike

Query

Does lifetime really mean lifetime or is there small print with which to be concerned?

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RKF (Bethesda, MD) Garmin Nuvi 660, 360 & Street Pilot

Query

Does lifetime really mean lifetime or is there small print with which to be concerned? (SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POSTING - CANT DELETE IT).

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RKF (Bethesda, MD) Garmin Nuvi 660, 360 & Street Pilot

Lifetime is great

just as long as your Garmin can last that long. Still on the fence with getting the upgrade.

new nuvi or map upgrade

I agree that new maps are cheaper than a new nuvi but I don't know that it is always the best value. My son has a 200 and for Christmas mentioned a map upgrade. Instead I bought him a 265WT. I spent about twice as much but he gained a wider screen, better displays, next turns on the main screen, bluetooth, and traffic (lifetime). I think this was a better value than new maps for his 200.

Jim

in this case

JimD1 wrote:

I agree that new maps are cheaper than a new nuvi but I don't know that it is always the best value. My son has a 200 and for Christmas mentioned a map upgrade. Instead I bought him a 265WT. I spent about twice as much but he gained a wider screen, better displays, next turns on the main screen, bluetooth, and traffic (lifetime). I think this was a better value than new maps for his 200.

Jim

In this case the unit upgrade was from a very basic unit with limited features to a more advanced unit. You'll still have the same map update issue to face, but with a unit that offers a lot more flexibility.

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Updated Maps

rettollcapt, I think you answered your own question when you mentioned that the new gas stations, strip malls, etc never showed up on your outdated map. Lifetime map upgrades are very inexpensive. You get 4 upgrades per year. I've experienced much less frustration since I started getting regular upgrades.

I agree, if you plan to buy

I agree, if you plan to buy an upgrade every year or two, you might as well get the lifetime upgrade. It is cheaper in the long run.

Garmin Updates and Custom POI Files

rettollcapt wrote:

Just drove from Northern California to Phoenix, AZ. I have the 2009 maps in my Nuvi 650. I downloaded POIs, icons and sounds for gas stops. There are lots of new gas stations, strip malls, etc! But they never showed up on the screen. Sounds didn't work, icons never showed, empty fields are what I saw. Anyone that has downloaded 2011 maps, are you satisfied? Improvements? Or should I wait for the 2012 maps? Thanks for you help!
Norm

Norm

You indicated that you downloaded POI and associated sound files. That doesn't sound like the files came from Garmin but from the POI Factory or some other site. It sounds like you may be confusing custom POI files and Garmin map updates.

If you want the most current locations for specific types of facilities (gas stations, restaurants, rest areas, etc.) I would NOT rely on Garmin map updates. The POI Factory is the best source for current information!

But in my opinion the map updates are worth the (regularly dropping) price. I would not buy a single update, but the lifetime subsciption provides good value. And really, there is no other economical and practical way to get more up-to-date information on highways and roads!

Lifetime

rkf wrote:

Does lifetime really mean lifetime or is there small print with which to be concerned?

Lifetime means the life of the GPS, lifetime is not transferable between GPS's

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The only time the subscription would be transferable to another unit would be if the original unit needed to be returned to Garmin under warranty and replaced with either a new or refurbished model. Even then, the call would be up to Garmin but they've been known to honor a subscription transfer in this type of situation.

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Also don' forget

DanielT wrote:
rettollcapt wrote:

Just drove from Northern California to Phoenix, AZ. I have the 2009 maps in my Nuvi 650. I downloaded POIs, icons and sounds for gas stops. There are lots of new gas stations, strip malls, etc! But they never showed up on the screen. Sounds didn't work, icons never showed, empty fields are what I saw. Anyone that has downloaded 2011 maps, are you satisfied? Improvements? Or should I wait for the 2012 maps? Thanks for you help!
Norm

Norm

You indicated that you downloaded POI and associated sound files. That doesn't sound like the files came from Garmin but from the POI Factory or some other site. It sounds like you may be confusing custom POI files and Garmin map updates.

If you want the most current locations for specific types of facilities (gas stations, restaurants, rest areas, etc.) I would NOT rely on Garmin map updates. The POI Factory is the best source for current information!

But in my opinion the map updates are worth the (regularly dropping) price. I would not buy a single update, but the lifetime subsciption provides good value. And really, there is no other economical and practical way to get more up-to-date information on highways and roads!

I have a 650 and it handles sounds, alerts, and icons fine. The file names need to be correct, no double extensions, and mp3 sound vs wav.

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2011 Maps - Worth it ?

DorkusNimrod wrote:

The only time the subscription would be transferable to another unit would be if the original unit needed to be returned to Garmin under warranty and replaced with either a new or refurbished model. Even then, the call would be up to Garmin but they've been known to honor a subscription transfer in this type of situation.

Garmin USED to do a courtesy transfer if your GPS was stolen AND you supplied them with a Police report.

But from recent posts, it seems like they have started refusing to do that any longer.

It seems more likely they may do a transfer in a case such as DorkusNimrod has cited.

But actually, they are not bound to do any transfer at all based on the exclusion/disclaimer they have.

But sometimes you will get a nice Cust.Svc.Rep who will oblige.

Speed Test

rettollcapt wrote:

Well I decided to get lifetime updates. Went to the Garmin site and it tells me that my connection speed is toooo sloooow! 54 is too slow? Oh what to do!!

Contacted Garmin and they had me run a speed test (http://www.speedtest.net/)and send them the results. The tech said that I should be able to download map updates but it will take a while. Nice to know. But I'll check out the local library and see what their download speed is and maybe it will be faster. Thanks for all the helpful answers.

Regards,

Norm

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Garmin Nuvi 650, Garmin eTrexLegend, Magellan 360

Not worth it for old GPS

Personally, I would look at a new GPS. I miss my 760 but for $125 I got a new 1450LMT with lifetime maps and traffic. New battery, bigger screen, new warranty, and $90 worth of lifetime map subscription. Kind of a now brainer.

(When I bought lifetime maps for my 760, it died 5 months later. Didn't really pay off to spend the then $100 for lifetime maps that I couldn't use on a new GPS!)

I think new map updates are

I think new map updates are really worth it. I have Honda navigation in my car and they want $250 for an update which is probably a year old by the time they get the DVD made. I just bought the nuvi 1490LMT just so i would always have the latest maps available. If you live in an area that is growing, the update is worth it.

The True Length of Life Time Updates

rkf wrote:

Does lifetime really mean lifetime or is there small print with which to be concerned?

From Garmin website: (http://www8.garmin.com/updatemaps/)

Quote:

nüMaps Lifetime
If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime™ subscription (sold separately), you will receive up to 4 map data updates per year, when and as such updates are made available on Garmin’s website, for 1 compatible Garmin product until your product’s useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map data from its third party supplier, whichever is shorter. The updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic map data originally included with your Garmin product when originally purchased. In some instances, your Garmin product might not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the same map data originally included with your Garmin product, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD card or a SD card (as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD card or SD card slot contained in your Garmin product. Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this Agreement. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product.

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I update maps on my two

I update maps on my two units. Last update is really good. They have changed junction pictures big time. I have noticed this change in Greater Toronto Area and upto Niagara area.
Great job.

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