Nuvi 1490 LMT disk pace only 75 MB remaining on new unit

 

Today, bought Nuvi 1490 LMT from Costco Canada for my wife. When I connected to my pc to check the disk space on it, I was surprised to see that there was only 69.5 MB and not 75 MB space left out of 2 GB.
I am wondering how this space will be enough for future map updates?

What is your advice?

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597
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There's no reason Garmin should be making gps devices with so little memory. I would recommend returning the device and looking for something with more memory. Because map updates will only continue to get larger.

Yes, you can delete certain files (voices, vehicles, help, etc.) but that will only free up a couple of hundred MB. In a year you'll be out of memory again.

Not quite so fast....

GadgetGuy2008 wrote:

There's no reason Garmin should be making gps devices with so little memory. I would recommend returning the device and looking for something with more memory. Because map updates will only continue to get larger.

Yes, you can delete certain files (voices, vehicles, help, etc.) but that will only free up a couple of hundred MB. In a year you'll be out of memory again.

I have a 1490T and am loving it...I deleted all the unnecessary files and gained considerable space. I have loaded the latest North American map including Canada and Mexico and have all my POI's also. I still have over 325MB left over. When I do the next map update I will not include Mexico which will free up even more space. I would keep the unit as it is a good one....This is all of course my personal opinion. If you find it just won't do you can always return it....I have a 4GB micro SD card with my pictures and music installed...

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

This Model

The owners manual does not say what is 1490LMT memory size. The manual makes several references to using memory cards. It does say it has lifetime maps and traffic.

I would think there is more available memory than rookie8155 stated. He can always make a copy of the entire drive and delete vehicles, voices, help files. Also check for photos and tourguides.

I agree with farrissr

There will be plenty of space if you get rid of the voices, text, and help files you don't use.

I liked the unit but my

I liked the unit but my concern is disk space. It appears fishy on Garmin's part to give free map updates on this unit when it does not have much disk space on it. You may be OK for a year or so but after that you will will stuck.

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

delete

I deleted all the voices, and cars that I never use plus I deleted the help files.

True

GadgetGuy2008 wrote:

There's no reason Garmin should be making gps devices with so little memory.

I would think a minimum of 4 gigs would be standard. Why should people be forced to buy a 4 or 8 gig card to hold maps after one update? That is beyond belief, especially with LM updates.

Start thinking of customers, Garmin instead of the bottom line. Then, the bottom line will be increased by customers!

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@rookie8155

Same with the text files.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

Can you use SD card to

Can you use SD card to expand disk space on this unit?
But my point is why would Garmin push a unit in market which will run out of disk space on first map update?

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

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Yes, you can add maps to the SD card by selecting the areas you want, country by country. Far from ideal though, after one update!

That's the thing that sticks in my craw! Even the 37xx has only 2 gigs.

I'm glad I bought the 775T (8 gigs)!

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nüvi 3790T | nüvi 775T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

Not SO

Not So, my 3790 has 8GB of storage.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

Sorry, I just checked the

Sorry, I just checked the remaining disk space is only 69.5 MB.

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

Keep it!

rookie8155 wrote:

Today, bought Nuvi 1490 LMT from Costco Canada for my wife. When I connected to my pc to check the disk space on it, I was surprised to see that there was only 75 MB space left out of 2 GB.
I am wondering how this space will be enough for future map updates?

What is your advice?

My advice is to keep the 1490 and don't worry about having enough space for future updates. You will have enough space.

It might help if you delete some of the unused voices and vehicles. I moved them to a micro sd card, and that helped a bit. But I think, as long as one doesn't go crazy adding more cars and voices, there will be enough room for the updates.

I had no trouble with my first update, before I moved some voices and vehicles to the sd card.

Now that I have moved a few things, I have over 150mb on my 1490 and still have 3.5gb left on the sd card.

Remain calm, enjoy the 1490.

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Ted in Ohio, c340, 1490T with lifetime maps

Whew!

t923347 wrote:

Not So, my 3790 has 8GB of storage.

That's good to hear, I was thinking of getting one. I had read that on a few different review sites. Thanks!

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nüvi 3790T | nüvi 775T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

Wrong info

rookie8155 wrote:

Can you use SD card to expand disk space on this unit?
But my point is why would Garmin push a unit in market which will run out of disk space on first map update?

Don't know where you get it will run out of space on the first map update????? I have done two updates including all of North America and all my POI's and still have over 325MB left.

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

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Juggernaut wrote:
t923347 wrote:

Not So, my 3790 has 8GB of storage.

That's good to hear, I was thinking of getting one. I had read that on a few different review sites. Thanks!

I believe the Australian version 37xx has only 2GB of memory...Australia is not a very densely populated area.

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nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area

farrissr wrote: rookie8155

farrissr wrote:
rookie8155 wrote:

Can you use SD card to expand disk space on this unit?
But my point is why would Garmin push a unit in market which will run out of disk space on first map update?

Don't know where you get it will run out of space on the first map update????? I have done two updates including all of North America and all my POI's and still have over 325MB left.

When there is only 69.5 MB disk space remaining, it will definitely run out of disk space. Why would I give wrong info. I can not add screen shots here otherwise I will show screen shot of remaining disk space.

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

storage space

My 1690 (2GB) also came with minimal remaining storage space although I don't remember the numbers right now. But by the time I got through deleting unused voice, help, vehicle, KB and text files, I had about 400 MB remaining.

IAC, make sure you backup your nuvi *before* you begin deleting unused files to create space.

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nuvi 1690 with ecoRoute HD, SP2610 (retired), Edge 305, Forerunner 405

I started copying Nuvi files

I started copying Nuvi files to my pc. When I am copying is showing 1.6 gigs being copied. It is very starnge that if I check disk space in Windows it show inly 69.5.
Sent email to Garmin support and got their reply advising to delete extra files from the device to make sapce. But this is not the right solution.

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

Take it back...

rookie8155 wrote:

I started copying Nuvi files to my pc. When I am copying is showing 1.6 gigs being copied. It is very strange that if I check disk space in Windows it show only 69.5.
Sent email to Garmin support and got their reply advising to delete extra files from the device to make space. But this is not the right solution.

Sounds like you will not be happy with the unit no matter what....Take it back and try and find one that suits your needs....personally I have not and do not anticipate any problems with mine...Over 325MB still available with all of North America map loaded and thousands of POI's.

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

I deleted all the unnecessary files

Quote:

Sounds like you will not be happy with the unit no matter what....Take it back and try and find one that suits your needs....personally I have not and do not anticipate any problems with mine...Over 325MB still available with all of North America map loaded and thousands of POI's.

I deleted all the unnecessary files e.g helpfiles, sound files, vehilces etc and regained 457 MB space.
If you have alredy updated maps few times and still have disk space then I should be fine too. Plus if I can use Micro SD card to install maps then I am fine

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

Just an update. I installed

Just an update. I installed new maps on this device and checked remaini disk space. It appears that new maps took another 50 MB space. So looks like I should be OK for couple of years.

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

Map Updates

Doesn't each map update overwrite the preceeding one? My 660 still only has 1 map on it despite having 5 or 6 updates done on it. No space problem at all. I'm not sure if the space it came with but I'm sure it wasn't a lot.

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NUVI 660, Late 2012 iMac, Macbook 2.1 Fall 2008, iPhone6 , Nuvi 3790, iPad2

Agree

geochapman wrote:

Doesn't each map update overwrite the preceeding one? My 660 still only has 1 map on it despite having 5 or 6 updates done on it. No space problem at all. I'm not sure if the space it came with but I'm sure it wasn't a lot.

I would agree with you that updating a map should not take up allot more disc space. I did not have the Mexico map loaded previously and after this last update which I included Mexico I still had over 325MB left. Doing my next map update I will not include Mexico and should gain a little more.

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

geochapman wrote:Doesn't

geochapman wrote:

Doesn't each map update overwrite the preceeding one? My 660 still only has 1 map on it despite having 5 or 6 updates done on it. No space problem at all. I'm not sure if the space it came with but I'm sure it wasn't a lot.

Every map update should take more disk space because more areas would be added which would result in more data and bigger maps.

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

Slightly Larger

geochapman wrote:

Doesn't each map update overwrite the preceeding one? My 660 still only has 1 map on it despite having 5 or 6 updates done on it. No space problem at all. I'm not sure if the space it came with but I'm sure it wasn't a lot.

Yes, each update overwrites the old map file, however, each new map is slightly larger than the previous one.

I have tracked the space on my 660 with each update. Here is what I posted after the 2011.20 map update:

Gary A wrote:
Timantide wrote:

I have a NUVI 350 I have had it for two years, so the maps are original (It says copywrite 2009)
If I get the new update, does it overwrite the original program and if so will it fit on the GPS itself or does it require a SD card? I have a 2Gig card I use for POIs.

The new maps will overwrite the previous one. HOWEVER - each map release is bigger than the last which means the free space gets smaller and smaller. I have been tracking the amount of free space left on my 660 with each update. Here are my free space figures including this latest update:

For the record, this was the amount of free space remaining on my 660 with each of the mapsets I've installed:

New, with 2008 maps - 540MB
After 2010.10 update - 428MB
After 2010.20 update - 394MB
After 2010.30 update - 379MB
After 2010.40 update - 365MB
After 2011.10 update - 270MB
After 2011.20 update - 252MB

I did not have to delete any of the "optional" files like voices or vehicles to make this version fit. I installed all of North America which includes Canada and Mexico.

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Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2019.30 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold

Thanks Gary A!

I have had my 660 for three years now (they WERE expensive back then, eh?) and have never been concerned about storage space.

You indicate that you have NOT deleted the optional files, and I assume you have not added any extra files (pictures, MP3, etc.). With the exception of the 2010.4 update, it looks like an 8% drop with each update. We should be good for another couple of years - and by that time it will be time to upgrade anyway!

Thanks for providing your tracking list. I will be a little more aware of storage space from now on.

Files

Correct, I have NOT deleted any optional files - yet. I have only added one picture file (a custom splash screen), one custom vehicle file and all my mp3's and playlists are on an SD card.

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Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2019.30 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold

As has been said many times

As has been said many times in many threads if you delete the non used voices and vehicles it will last a long time...

So, you run out of space trying to load a full map release......

So what?

Who cares?

You do? Why?

Almost no one has to have EVERYTHING - I'd go out on a limb and remove the 'almost' from that statement.

Does ANYONE need the entire of Canada, the US, possibly Mexico (they did include it in one release) and the territories at the same time?

Why?

You can load almost any subset of the maps - and virtually no one needs it all.

We used to get along with 8 megs of data and loaded a state or two in removable cards. 128 megs is enough to plot a route from New York to LA and include all of LA itself.

So chill. If you ever do run out of space, leave out Alaska, or Puerto Rico, oir Hwaii, or Canada or whatever and load what you DO need and just enjoy the device.

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Currently have: SP3, GPSMAP 276c, Nuvi 760T, Nuvi 3790LMT, Zumo 660T

I got response back from

I got response back from Garmin on how to install maps on micro SD card if needed:

"You can load the maps to a SD card. When you download the maps to your device, you will be given an "Install Option" button where you can install the maps to your computer. After installing the maps to your computer it will install a program called MapInstall. To use MapInstall, please follow the instructions below.

To install additional map regions to a blank microSD/SD card after the map update:

Windows XP and Vista
Insert the SD card into your nuvi
Connect the nuvi to your PC

Click Start

Go to All Programs

Go to Garmin

Click MapInstall

Click Next

Click Find Device

Click on the Drop Down Arrow

Select the Removable Disk

Click Next

Highlight the maps you do not yet have on the nuvi.

Click Next

Click Finish

Follow the onscreen instructions.

The maps will now be sent to the microSD/SD card. "

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Iphone XR, Drivesmart 61,Nuvicam, Nuvi3597

Gained 25MB

Just downloaded new map 2011.3(US and Canada) and gained over 25MB. Previously had all of North America map on the unit. No need for the Mexico maps this go around. Had it on previously as we spent two weeks in Mexico last month. Currently have 349MB available.

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Bobby....Garmin 2450LM

Installing maps in SD Card

Where can I find directions as to how to install a map in the SD Card. I just downloaded the Mexico NT 2011 and would like to use it from the SD card. Where can I get help how to do that? Thank you.

Several reasons

There are several reasons..
1 - I travel for a living and or pleasure and don't want to get there and say, "Dam.. I didn't load my maps"..
2 - I want to update the device ONCE..
3 - I decide to update it to the maximum offered by Garmin..

It is the buyers/owners choice..

To repeat what you said.. CHILL

Install maps on the unit and everything else on the SD card

Your unit will last probably longer too if you load everything but the maps to an SD card. Since most units have a finite amount of rewrites the less times you rewrite the garmin memory the longer it may live.
Makes no sense to me to have things on the garmin you'll never use. If you only use english why would you want other language files on the unit when you can load in less than 5 minutes.
Garmin makes these units with as little memory as possible. Yes memory is cheap but if garmin can save
$1 a unit that is tens of millions a year in profits.
The average life of a unit is probably 3-4 years and they design with that in mind.

I would guess that anyone

I would guess that anyone here would be willing to spend that extra $1 for more memory. Garmin doesn't give you the option - foolish attitude.

If you wanted to buy Europe for example to add to a Garmin which covers only the US, Canada & Mexico, you would want the extra on-board memory. I already have a 16 GB card on my 350 & 1350 units for extra info. No problem there, but accessing internal memory vs an add-on card must inherently be slower.

Wake up Garmin. User satisfaction is what you want!!!

Fred

any proof?

Frside007 wrote:

Your unit will last probably longer too if you load everything but the maps to an SD card. Since most units have a finite amount of rewrites the less times you rewrite the garmin memory the longer it may live.
Makes no sense to me to have things on the garmin you'll never use. If you only use english why would you want other language files on the unit when you can load in less than 5 minutes.
Garmin makes these units with as little memory as possible. Yes memory is cheap but if garmin can save
$1 a unit that is tens of millions a year in profits.
The average life of a unit is probably 3-4 years and they design with that in mind.

You are stating a lot of assumptions on your part regarding the life of the memory in the units. The memory chips used in the Garmin are probably every bit as good as the ones used in your PC. They will last for years and withstand millions of reads and writes. It makes no sense for the chip manufacturer to build a chip that isn't reliable. If the chips from a manufacturer are unreliable, then a buyer won't buy from them as the poor quality reflects not on the chip, but on the company using the chip. Granted, the size or amount of memory is a cost decision, but even the least expensive chip will last for many years in continuous use.

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SD Card

It still amazes me that Garmin can put so little memory into these devices. That said, SD cards are so cheap now, that it doesn't really matter. I just moved everything to my 8 GB card and still have plenty of room.

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Life is what you make of it.

The newer

The newer models, for example the 3790 has 8GB, as does the 2460, while the 2450 has 4GB.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

1490LMT and JCV file

Folks,

Sorry to resurrect this old thread .. I bought a 1490LMT for my Dad for Fathers Day and wanted to install the latest NA 2012.10 map update for him on the device. So I will start out with backing up the entire Nuvi contents to my Dad's laptop and then delete all the voice files, help files etc .. that he will not be using. I then plan to just install the Lower 48 states on his device and then the rest of the map (Canada, Mexico, Carribean etc ..) on a 4GB SD car as per the instructions in this thread using Mapinstall. My question is regarding JCV files. Do I need to create a separate "garmin/JCV" folder on the SD card and copy the JCV file on it or will the device read the JCV file from the Nuvi drive even for maps on the SD card? For people who have done this and have the JCV views working, can you please chime in.

Thanks,
jakas

I just did it.

jakas wrote:

Folks,

Sorry to resurrect this old thread .. I bought a 1490LMT for my Dad for Fathers Day and wanted to install the latest NA 2012.10 map update for him on the device. So I will start out with backing up the entire Nuvi contents to my Dad's laptop and then delete all the voice files, help files etc .. that he will not be using. I then plan to just install the Lower 48 states on his device and then the rest of the map (Canada, Mexico, Carribean etc ..) on a 4GB SD car as per the instructions in this thread using Mapinstall. My question is regarding JCV files. Do I need to create a separate "garmin/JCV" folder on the SD card and copy the JCV file on it or will the device read the JCV file from the Nuvi drive even for maps on the SD card? For people who have done this and have the JCV views working, can you please chime in.

Thanks,
jakas

I had to know for the future. I created a garmin/JCV folder on the SD card and moved the .JCV file to it. The junction views in the Dallas/Fort Worth area still work. I can't say for other areas but I don't see why it wouldn't work. As expected I picked up more room on the unit. I only have contour maps on the SD card.

Doomsday is here for the nuvi 1490lmt

Recently updated my nuvi 1490lmt with Garmin and guess what. The North American 2012 file does not fit in the ##$@@%%^$ 1490 that I just purchased at Costco in Feb. 2011. I was forced to do a partial download. (Eastern North America). Not only that. The Junction View File has been greatly reduced. (To try to make everything fit in the measly 2GB internal memory no doubt) Now I have lost all of my Junction Views in the Montreal area. Not impressed Garmin!!!

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Are we there yet?

Memory Capacity

My 2460LMT has 8Gb internal and a memory card slot for additional. For now this is more than adequate.

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romanviking

No Doomsday for 1490

There is no doomsday for the 1490. You can easily manage the space by following the steps provided by a member on how to free up space. I did it and now have over 400MB remaining and still have more files I could have deleted. Plus I have the micro sd card with 4GB free space that I havent used as yet. Its not as bad as you are making it to be. Just learn how to manage your data and get rid of those files you dont need. Plus utilize the micro SD card that comes with the unit. Do I search on how to free space on 1490. you will find the article here on this forum.

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Garmin Nuvi 260W Garmin Nuvi 1490T If you think knowledge is expensive, try ignorance.

Guide to deleting unnecessary files to free up space

Check out this guide that was done by - Lilla
Sat, 08/20/2011 - 3:54pm

Lilla

I wrote a guide to deleting unnecessary files to free up space. I think many people will find it helpful. I welcome your feedback and comments.

1490T Tutorial 2. Guide to deleting unnecessary files to free up space. And, notes on other files.
This tutorial, and others, is stored on my Microsoft SkyDrive Account.
To open this tutorial, click the link below, then click the name of the tutorial.
http://cid-c6483e8a197b8356.office.live.com/browse.aspx/.Pub...

I have a Garmin nuvi 1490T (2GB internal memory). After deleting unnecessary files, I was able to install the "2012.20 Full Coverage of North America" map update to internal memory, and still have 96MB free. Initially I installed "2012.20 Lower 49 States" to internal memory, and installed Alaska, Canada, and Mexico as a supplemental map on my device's storage card using MapSource. While this approach takes a few more steps, it supplies the full map and when using the device I can't tell the difference.

My 1490T notes will (AFAIK) apply to nuvi 13xx/14xx (they use same firmware) and nuvi 1xxx, and parts at least to other nuvi models.

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Garmin Nuvi 260W Garmin Nuvi 1490T If you think knowledge is expensive, try ignorance.

It can be done but...

the biggest issue is that we should not have to delete voices, help files, etc and split the maps or do any of the "jumping through hoops" that we have to because Garmin wont increase the onboard memory.

jamstyle wrote:

There is no doomsday for the 1490. You can easily manage the space by following the steps provided by a member on how to free up space. I did it and now have over 400MB remaining and still have more files I could have deleted. Plus I have the micro sd card with 4GB free space that I havent used as yet. Its not as bad as you are making it to be. Just learn how to manage your data and get rid of those files you dont need. Plus utilize the micro SD card that comes with the unit. Do I search on how to free space on 1490. you will find the article here on this forum.

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Nuvi 2460LMT.

Yes

pwohlrab wrote:

the biggest issue is that we should not have to delete voices, help files, etc and split the maps or do any of the "jumping through hoops" that we have to because Garmin wont increase the onboard memory.

I think we have to remember that only a tiny percent of people who purchased the 1490 are members of this forum. The average owner doesn't know how to connect his Garmin to a computer and determine which files are safe to delete. And he shouldn't have to become a Computer/GPS geek to perform a map upgrade which he paid to receive ( LMT models).

Garmin know this and yet continues to sell their products knowing that they will be outdated for most users within a year. I think this is a shameful business practice.

Is this unique to Garmin?

RickLeb wrote:

Garmin know this and yet continues to sell their products knowing that they will be outdated for most users within a year. I think this is a shameful business practice.

While I certainly wish that all the products that I purchase will last for a lifetime, I do not expect that of them. I remember my experiences with computers and modems and how quickly I became hamstrung by their lack of capacity.

What I wish is that there was something on the Garmin site that gave the average customer some specification about internal memory. Maybe there is but I have not been able to find it.

I searched also but didn't find anything

jgermann wrote:
RickLeb wrote:

Garmin know this and yet continues to sell their products knowing that they will be outdated for most users within a year. I think this is a shameful business practice.

While I certainly wish that all the products that I purchase will last for a lifetime, I do not expect that of them. I remember my experiences with computers and modems and how quickly I became hamstrung by their lack of capacity.

What I wish is that there was something on the Garmin site that gave the average customer some specification about internal memory. Maybe there is but I have not been able to find it.

That was at the time Bear007 posted on the sizes.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/33586

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Nuvi 2460LMT.

@pwohlrab

Thought I was posting in this thread but posted in the bear007 thread. There I said

On my 765T, I held down the battery indicator for 10 seconds to get to the diagnostic screens.

The top line reads
SW Ver 4.00 nuvi 765 V9 4GB P1 DH04_R 330MHz

My assumption is that this is a way we can find out what the internal memory is.

Would appreciate others checking this out.

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