Do any of the newer Garmin units provide upcoming cross street?

 

My old unit, nuvi 200 gave upcoming cross street for almost every street, which I found it rather useful. The upcoming cross street label pops right up above the street I'm approaching as well as the top bar.

When I got a nuvi 205, I learned that even though its processor is faster, has twice as much memory (2GB vs 1GB) and speed limit indicator, it won't show every upcoming cross street.

Are ALL newer Garmins like this?

cross street

Falcon9 wrote:

My old unit, nuvi 200 gave upcoming cross street for almost every street, which I found it rather useful. The upcoming cross street label pops right up above the street I'm approaching as well as the top bar.

When I got a nuvi 205, I learned that even though its processor is faster, has twice as much memory (2GB vs 1GB) and speed limit indicator, it won't show every upcoming cross street.

Are ALL newer Garmins like this?

They do show the name on the map but not on the top bar

Another thread on this

I believe this is it,
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/20596

It has been a while since I have read it but if memory serves me well this morning it was changed in the firmware and had something to do with a copyright infringement with another manufacture. On the highway I still get the message of the next approaching exit, but not the cross streets on the secondary roads as mentioned.

Another Thread On This

wknight40 wrote:

I believe this is it,
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/20596

It has been a while since I have read it but if memory serves me well this morning it was changed in the firmware and had something to do with a copyright infringement with another manufacture. On the highway I still get the message of the next approaching exit, but not the cross streets on the secondary roads as mentioned.

This is not the thread where the reason for the lack of this feature was discussed.

In that thread there was much talk about firmware and copyright infringement but that was disproved. The final conclusion was simply that certain models have the feature and other models do not.

dobs108

Unfortunately, yes

Falcon9 wrote:

My old unit, nuvi 200 gave upcoming cross street for almost every street, which I found it rather useful. The upcoming cross street label pops right up above the street I'm approaching as well as the top bar.

When I got a nuvi 205, I learned that even though its processor is faster, has twice as much memory (2GB vs 1GB) and speed limit indicator, it won't show every upcoming cross street.

Are ALL newer Garmins like this?

One of my major pet peeves.

Also the rumour that it is due to a patent infrigement? It is just that, a rumour. No one I've ever spoken with has ever been able to find any documentation supoprting the comment. Even CSRs at Garmin have told me that there is no reason (OK, I know they just make it up as they go, but I'm just saying . . .)

Any patent of this type should be quickly and easily killed in challenge because it fails the most basic test of eing obvious to anyone skilled in the art . . .

I, for one will not be buying another new navigator from Garmin (or anyone else, for that matter) unless it includes clear and obvious 'upcoming cross street' information in a banner box and adequate screen detail to allow me to see every road when zoomed far enough out to see at least 10 miles of road - new ones are limited to 3 miles.

Should my navigator die I will simply purchase another 760/780, which was the last of the Garmins that did this.

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DorkusNimrod Wrote

DorkusNimrod wrote -

xx5/1xxx series green Info Bar operation:

Not on a route or a Go To:
Green Status bar shows the name of the street you are currently on.
Not on a route or Go To (on a freeway):
Green Status bar shows the next upcoming freeway exit.

3x0/6x0/7x0/8x0 series green Info Bar operation:

Not on a route or a Go To:
Green Info Bar shows the name of the next upcoming cross street.
Not on a route or Go To (on a freeway):
Green Status bar shows the next upcoming freeway exit.

Thanks, Dorkus

dobs108

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peterlukcanada wrote:
Falcon9 wrote:

My old unit, nuvi 200 gave upcoming cross street for almost every street, which I found it rather useful. The upcoming cross street label pops right up above the street I'm approaching as well as the top bar.

When I got a nuvi 205, I learned that even though its processor is faster, has twice as much memory (2GB vs 1GB) and speed limit indicator, it won't show every upcoming cross street.

Are ALL newer Garmins like this?

They do show the name on the map but not on the top bar

The 205 does not show name on the top bar at all.

Only a few streets get labeled above them on the map and far fewer than on Nuvi 200.

If Garmin hasn't negotiated whatever I.P. issue with whoever, I'm happy to give up and try another brand.

Which brand still offers cross street information in detail? <$200 would be ideal.

The Nuvi 200 performed satisfactory, just need a new map, however I don't think its got enough memory to accommodate anything newer than the 2010 NT, and who knows if anything newer will kill the "top bar" feature.

Nuvi 200

Nuvi 200 units can handle the newest maps, if you use a SD card. See the thread at the link below.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28201

I won't ditch my 200W until it dies or is no longer supported, simply because I like seeing the cross street on the information bar, and my Garmin Mobile XT install doesn't have cross streets on the information bar. Something that needs to be added to the reposted info regarding which Garmin units show cross streets and which don't.

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details

So, does the Nuvi 200 function like it has been even with the latest map or does the latest map omit things just like newer models?

Stop the presses

It seems that at least some of the newer models may now have the upcoming streets in the banner box with the latest map releases . . . there's a thread about it.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28809

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Nuvi 750 does

my Nuvi 750 will display the next cross street on the top of the screen, but you can't be on a route (the GPS doesn't know your destination). I don't know the official name of the mode.

Firmware Defines Function

Falcon9 wrote:

So, does the Nuvi 200 function like it has been even with the latest map or does the latest map omit things just like newer models?

The firmware determines what is displayed on the screen. Since the firmware doesn't change, only the map, you won't notice any changes in what is displayed on the map. The one thing you will notice with the SD card installed is that the Nuvi takes a bit longer to boot since it has to read both the internal memory and the SD card.

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That's Incorrect

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

The firmware determines what is displayed on the screen. Since the firmware doesn't change, only the map, you won't notice any changes in what is displayed on the map.

Both firmware and maps change. What are you thinking of?

Please see my post here: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/28809

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Not on a Nuvi 200 or 200W,

Not on a Nuvi 200 or 200W, unless they are rebadged 205 units. The firmware on my 200W has been at 4.0 for some two years or more. There have been no firmware updates in that time frame from Garmin. Garmin introduced 2x5 series units last year IIRC. The lack of firmware updates and the introduction of the 2x5 series units leads to the only logical conclusion: Garmin will be releasing no more firmware updates for the Nuvi 200 series. Given the context of the question asked to me by Falcon9:

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So, does the Nuvi 200 function like it has been even with the latest map or does the latest map omit things just like newer models?

my statement that the map is the only thing updated is true. If he was asking about his 205, I would have mentioned the possibility of a firmware update, since that unit is still in production by Garmin.

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I missed that feature too,

I missed that feature too, after I "upgraded" to 765t. Does anyone know on which models the feature has been restored?

205 replaces 200

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Not on a Nuvi 200 or 200W, unless they are rebadged 205 units.

205 is the successor low-end model to 200. Exterior is exactly the same except 205 has a darker plastic trimming.

205 locks quicker, has the useless "eco trip" thing, and shows speed limit on some roads, but intentional loss of details on cross street.

Surprised if they removed

Surprised if they removed that feature - my 660 has it and it's quite helpful

I Still See...

When navigating, I see the name of the next street I will be turning on across the top of the screen.

When just driving with the map displayed, I see the name of the street I'm on across the top of the screen.

In both cases, I see the names of the cross streets on the map itself appear as I approach them.

Virtually all the major streets, and depending on the zoom level, the minor streets too.

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It's good that the cross-street names are being shown on the map but having the cross-street name on the green info banner is IMO better since it's much more visible as you can see it at a glance

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street ahead

Ozme52 wrote:

When navigating, I see the name of the next street I will be turning on across the top of the screen.

While of assistance in many situations the above was totally useless as I left Omaha,NE heading home.
My next turn was in 610 miles.

I agree with Dorkusnimrod.

I would much prefer the upcoming street, or best of all, the ability to select what displays in the top area. The readability on that top line is much easier for these old eyes.

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Thanks.

Falcon9 wrote:

205 is the successor low-end model to 200. Exterior is exactly the same except 205 has a darker plastic trimming.

205 locks quicker, has the useless "eco trip" thing, and shows speed limit on some roads, but intentional loss of details on cross street.

I know what the differences are. I also know that Garmin had a surplus of 205 guts, so for the holiday season they put 205s in a shell that looked identical to the 200s with the exception of the micro SD slot and sold them as 200s. If you don't look at the shell, the easiest way to tell is they have the updated interface of the later units, with the map zoom controls clustered on the right.

Thanks.

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cross streets

Mine shows cross streets when I'm just driving around, but not when I'm following a route.

Yes

intjmastermind wrote:

Mine shows cross streets when I'm just driving around, but not when I'm following a route.

That is how they all work if they have that feature.

dobs108 - nuvi 760

1490T

the 1490t will tell you every upcoming street

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driver4107 wrote:

the 1490t will tell you every upcoming street

How does it do that?

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Cross Streets

I have a Garmin Zumo 660 I use primarily on my motorcycle when touring. All cross streets are shown. You can zoom in or out to show the cross streets, or eliminate them....

That isn't what we're discussing

biker01red wrote:

I have a Garmin Zumo 660 I use primarily on my motorcycle when touring. All cross streets are shown. You can zoom in or out to show the cross streets, or eliminate them....

I assume that you aren't a longer-term user of Garmin navigators (as in pre-2009) because if you were, you'd know that the display mode you describe is truly lacking in ease of use.

Before the Nuvi XX5 navigators were released (the Zumo 660 is not a 'pre XX5 - Garmin uses a different numbergin scheme for Zumos) when you are not actively navigating a route the unit will display the name of the upcoming cross-street in the green banner box that stretches across the top of the screen.

If you never had it, you can't appreciate it, but the reality is that it resolves a number of Garmin's truly stupid cuuent GUI issues;

- like having to be zoomed in so tight that you can't 'see' farther than a number of blocks down the road; note that you are not supposed to be messing with the display while driving.
- there is no question about whether the street you are looking for is the one you just passed or is the next one;
- ALL streets are named (some are not on the current map-labelling variant).
- you are NEVER presented with the completely useless banner message 'Driving on road', which is what I would hope to be doing most of the time.

Garmin has introduced a couple of other brown stains into the GUI of late, but this, and the fact that they have reduced the amount of road detail they display are two of the most serious (especially for bikers) - bad enough that there is a growing group of users who will not be buying any new units from Garmin until they fix it.

I have laid up a spare 760 that I found on Ebay for next-to-nothing to guard against the day when the one in my car goes down for the count. I spent all of $25 for it and aonsider it cheap insurance; cheaper than what Garmin would charge me for an exchange unit.

My Zumo 660 has enough warts that if IT should disappear I won't be as upset and will simply go back to the Zumo 550 - THAT model works properly, display and GUI-wise.

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this always needs to be clarified...

When this "upcoming cross streets being shown" issue is brought up, I'd say 99% of the time we are talking about the "upcoming cross streets being shown" in the green info banner at the top of the map screen while NOT on a route (just driving around with no destination set). People never-endingly assume that we are talking about the cross streets being shown on the moving map itself which is incorrect. Nearly ALL nuvis will show some upcoming cross street detail on the moving map but it's never consistent and does not show every cross street...on top of that, it's not instantly visible at a glance.

I truly hope Garmin resolves this altered green info banner behavior on the new upcoming 37xx series by simply giving the user the choice of what to display in the banner...either the next upcoming cross street or the road you are currently on rather than forcing the user one way or the other. This would solve the issue once and for all and make everyone happy.

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Should a manufacturer start

DorkusNimrod wrote:

When this "upcoming cross streets being shown" issue is brought up, I'd say 99% of the time we are talking about the "upcoming cross streets being shown" in the green info banner at the top of the map screen while NOT on a route (just driving around with no destination set). People never-endingly assume that we are talking about the cross streets being shown on the moving map itself which is incorrect. Nearly ALL nuvis will show some upcoming cross street detail on the moving map but it's never consistent and does not show every cross street...on top of that, it's not instantly visible at a glance.

I truly hope Garmin resolves this altered green info banner behavior on the new upcoming 37xx series by simply giving the user the choice of what to display in the banner...either the next upcoming cross street or the road you are currently on rather than forcing the user one way or the other. This would solve the issue once and for all and make everyone happy.

Should a manufacturer start offering this information on their display in the future, there will be A LOT of former Garmin users offering units for sale on the various web sites - and I'd even be willing to throw in my lifetime maps as well.

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