Is anyone near Quartzsite, AZ?
Tue, 03/30/2010 - 1:01am
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Any forum members that are near Quartzsite, AZ, and can go by and see how far the "Photo Enforcement" warning sign is from the white van on the eastbound I-10, I'd be really interested in knowing.
I was by there and it didn't look to be the required 300'.
The law says "approximately
The law says "approximately 300 feet", so that "300 feet" can be quite a bit subjective...
but it also states 300
The law says "approximately 300 feet", so that "300 feet" can be quite a bit subjective...
But the law also states 300 feet which mans the distance must be near 300 feet given an amount for normal error. 100 feet cannot be deemed anywhere close to "approximately 300 feet" but 280 feet could.
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I will be driving through there this Friday but coming back through there Eastbound on Sunday. If it is still there, I will check it out.
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Approximately. Haha.
The law says "approximately 300 feet", so that "300 feet" can be quite a bit subjective...
So is $200 million dollars approximately $300 million dollars?
I wouldn't say so.
That is a terrible law. I'd love to argue it in front of the judge.
It was eastbound.
I will be driving through there this Friday but coming back through there Eastbound on Sunday. If it is still there, I will check it out.
It was on the eastbound side last weekend. You can see it plainly from westbound, and you can see the required warning sign, looks about 100' from it. The guy who parked it there got lazy.
Sure...
The law says "approximately 300 feet", so that "300 feet" can be quite a bit subjective...
So is $200 million dollars approximately $300 million dollars?
I wouldn't say so.
That is a terrible law. I'd love to argue it in front of the judge.
You'd be AMAZED at how many people suck at "approximating" distance.
codified law, Both signs are approximate distances
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The easiest and most common way to avoid an unjust ticket is to simply know the laws and your rights as a motorist. As any judge will tell you, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Photo Enforcement Zones & Sign Posting
Photo enforcement systems must be clearly marked for motorists according to Arizona law. However, failure to adequately warn motorists can often lead to an acquittal from an unjust ticket. According to the Arizona Revised Statutes for Transportation, section 28-654, a motorist’s citation has grounds for dismissal if any of the following was not true:
1. At least two signs shall be placed in a location before a photo enforcement system. One sign shall be in a location that is approximately three hundred feet before the photo enforcement system. Placement of additional signs shall be more than three hundred feet, before a photo enforcement system to provide reasonable notice to a person that a photo enforcement system is present and operational.
2. Signs indicating a photo enforcement system shall be removed or covered when the photo enforcement system is no longer present or not operating.
C. Signs erected by a local authority or agency of this state as prescribed in this section shall contain a yellow warning notice and correlate with and as far as possible conform to the system set forth in the most recent edition of the manual on uniform traffic control devices for streets and highways adopted by the director pursuant to section 28-641.
The laws stated above apply to all photo radar enforcement, whether it is a stationary system (highways) or a mobile photo radar vehicle (Side streets). However, there is an exception for mobile photo radar vehicles that are located on streets with a posted speed limit of 40mph or less. Its reads: "[The above laws do not] apply to a mobile photo enforcement vehicle during the time a mobile photo enforcement vehicle is deployed on streets with a posted speed limit of forty miles per hour or less."
In other words, if the posted speed limit is above 40mph, two signs with a yellow warning notice are required. If the posted speed limit is less than 40mph, the law does not require any signs or notices be posted.
To further protect a motorist from illegal or illegitimate traffic obedience signs, section 28-644 of article 3, Chapter 3 (TRAFFIC AND VEHICLE REGULATION) clearly states that one is not responsible for signs that were not sufficiently legible or visible. It reads:
B. Any provision of this chapter that requires signs shall not be enforced against an alleged violator if at the time and place of the alleged violation an official sign is not in proper position and sufficiently legible to be seen by an ordinarily observant person. If a particular section of law does not state that signs are required, that section is effective even though no signs are erected or in place.
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http://www.nophotoenforcement.com/fight-a-ticket/
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Quartzsite on Sunday.
I will be driving through there this Friday but coming back through there Eastbound on Sunday. If it is still there, I will check it out.
Did you notice the camera van there near Quartzsite on Sunday?
If so how far was the sign ahead of the van?