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All of a sudden, POI Loader won't update csv files

 

I posted this a the end of the Mac User forum but realized I should have started a new thread.

I have been using POI loader and csv files for a number of years, and I wanted to update my custom POI files.

All of sudden, POI loader will not upload my csv files.

I have changed nothing on the files.

I have updated POI loader to 2.1 and my OS to 10.5 since the last time I did an update.

Sure could use help.

Thanks.

Details, please

I am not a Mac user, so I would not be able to help. But, the Mac experts will want more details.

When you open POILoader, does it run at all?

If so, please give the details of the screens you see. For example, on a PC I get
Welcome screen
Save Options Screen
Find Device Screen
Install or Remove Screen
Please select Directory Screen
etc

Are you getting this far?

Questions

When you plug the USB cable into the GPS, does the GPS appear on your Mac desktop?

What happens when you have the POI loader running and you press the button that says "Find Device"?

If you open Disk Utility in the Utility folder, does it show the GPS as a device and is it mounted?

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I am new to all of this, and

I am new to all of this, and also had trouble using POI loader on my Mac today. When browsing files, it wouldn't let me select the one file I saved in documents and on desktop. I then selected GARMIN under Devices in Finder, and while it still wouldn't let me select the individual file, when I hit continue, it said my new files had been loaded. We'll see. . .

I think

I think you need to choose a folder rather than an individual file. The best thing to do is create a new folder in your Documents folder, name it something like Garmin POI's then put all of your POI's files into that, and then when you are using POI Loader, direct it to the location this new folder is at.

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POI won't up load

I have been using POI loader for a long time, and often, so I know what to do and know what to expect.

No equipment has changed. I didn't change any file; only POI Loader to 2.1 and my OS to 10.5.8

Here is the error message I get:

"There was an error reading the file /Users/GPS/POI files/Activities/Golf Courses Palm Spgs 09.csv. Either correct the problem or delete the file and try again."

This only happens for the csv files, not gpx files.

Thanks again for any help

POI Loader won't up load csv files

POI Loader works fine up to the error, no different than the many times I've used it before.

See my followup post below.

Thanks for your help.

All csv files or just this one golf course?

RockyMtnBlue wrote:

I have been using POI loader for a long time, and often, so I know what to do and know what to expect.

No equipment has changed. I didn't change any file; only POI Loader to 2.1 and my OS to 10.5.8

Here is the error message I get:

"There was an error reading the file /Users/GPS/POI files/Activities/Golf Courses Palm Spgs 09.csv. Either correct the problem or delete the file and try again."

This only happens for the csv files, not gpx files.

Thanks again for any help

If the issue arises only when you try loading the Golf Courses Palm Spgs 09 file, then the issue is not with POI Loader but is with the POI file. If the error occurs with every csv file (with other file names, of course) then someone else will need to help you, preferably a mac user.

What happens when you try loading csv files but don't include the golf course? If the golf course loaded before but doesn't now, is there a chance the POI file was updated and now has an error it didn't have before?

Try only one

RockyMtnBlue wrote:

I have been using POI loader for a long time, and often, so I know what to do and know what to expect.

No equipment has changed. I didn't change any file; only POI Loader to 2.1 and my OS to 10.5.8

Here is the error message I get:

"There was an error reading the file /Users/GPS/POI files/Activities/Golf Courses Palm Spgs 09.csv. Either correct the problem or delete the file and try again."

This only happens for the csv files, not gpx files.

Thanks again for any help

Go rename POI.GPI in the X:\Garmin\POI folder so you don't lose what is there until you solve your problem. Rename to anything as long as you keep the .gpi extension.

Then try loading only one csv file (not the golf course one) with POILoader and let us know what happens.

poiloader problem

RockyMtnBlue wrote:

I have been using POI loader for a long time, and often, so I know what to do and know what to expect.

No equipment has changed. I didn't change any file; only POI Loader to 2.1 and my OS to 10.5.8

Here is the error message I get:

"There was an error reading the file /Users/GPS/POI files/Activities/Golf Courses Palm Spgs 09.csv. Either correct the problem or delete the file and try again."

This only happens for the csv files, not gpx files.

Thanks again for any help

Not a Mac owners but have gotten that same error.Went back and open the file and found that two pois coordinates were left justified instead of right justified.Make correction and the file loaded.Just like your case had loaded before not sure how the change happen.

Agree with others the problem is the file.
What is telling you that there is a problem with Palm Spgs 09.csv file.I couldn't find it on POI Factory listing so I could check it.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT,Nuvi 2597 LMT and Garmin Viago.

POI Loader problem

Thanks for all the inputs.

The problem is not just the golf course file, I just used that as an example.

It is all of my many, many csv files, including those I have downloaded from POI Factory and other POI sites. I have built a number of POI files in the past and they have all always worked. For example, I have an address book POI file I have downloaded and uploaded many times.

Again, I use these POIs files a lot, I download regularly, and upload to my nuvi often. I have changed nothing in the files. POI Loader does the GPX files just fine.

This is what is frustrating, I changed nothing but POI Loader and my Operating system.

Build a POI file using EPE

Start EPE Extra POI Editor. If you don't have it, get it here. http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/Extra_POI_Editor

Open it up, click on "Add New POI" in the purple box in the upper left screen. Enter your address, or your friend, or whatever and then use "Geocode" to find that point. Click the 'Grab" button to get the coordinates transferred. Add other friends/relatives as desired.

Save as a .csv file then try to load that file BY ITSELF and let us know what happens.

Double Extensions

RockyMtnBlue wrote:

Thanks for all the inputs.

The problem is not just the golf course file, I just used that as an example.

It is all of my many, many csv files, including those I have downloaded from POI Factory and other POI sites. I have built a number of POI files in the past and they have all always worked. For example, I have an address book POI file I have downloaded and uploaded many times.

Again, I use these POIs files a lot, I download regularly, and upload to my nuvi often. I have changed nothing in the files. POI Loader does the GPX files just fine.

This is what is frustrating, I changed nothing but POI Loader and my Operating system.

I do not use mac for my poi loader, but I know that in the past some have said that the mac added an additional .csv at the end. Make sure your files aren't golf.csv.csv.

Daniel

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POI Loader Issue -Probably

I just installed POI Loader on my Mac today and tried to add the Rest Area Combined POI file from here. I get an error message about an "error reading file..." but it doesn't say what the error is. If I look at the POI Loader log in the Console, it complains about an "Invalid Document Structure" and doesn't like the first character in the file.

Sounds like a problem with 2.1.0 of POI Loader for the Mac.

Possible fix(es)

If I were having this problem I would open Disk Utility and Repair Permissions on the volume, shut down, and do a cold boot.

If it did not work then, I would remove the Communicator plug-in and POI Loader and download them both and re-install both.

THEN, I would Repair Permissions again, shut down and cold boot.

I have a belief your update to 10.5.8 did something in System. If all is still lost I would download the 10.5.8 Combo Update and start from there.

Good luck. H.

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dhamish

Changed csv to gpx

I updated my pois today and used the POIloader and it only included the ones that were gpx. I used Extra-POI-Editor and changed the csv ones to gpx and they all uploaded. I thought csv would load with POIloader.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

i'm not sure what you mean

mgarledge wrote:

I updated my pois today and used the POIloader and it only included the ones that were gpx. I used Extra-POI-Editor and changed the csv ones to gpx and they all uploaded. I thought csv would load with POIloader.

I'm not sure what you mean. I load mostly GPX files but I have some CSV also. Both load, but then I only have either a GPX or a CSV for my POIs. I don't have both types for the same list in the folder I load from.

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Just wondering

What happens if you try to open those files using TextEdit? Same deal?

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Same folder

a_user wrote:
mgarledge wrote:

I updated my pois today and used the POIloader and it only included the ones that were gpx. I used Extra-POI-Editor and changed the csv ones to gpx and they all uploaded. I thought csv would load with POIloader.

I'm not sure what you mean. I load mostly GPX files but I have some CSV also. Both load, but then I only have either a GPX or a CSV for my POIs. I don't have both types for the same list in the folder I load from.

I had them in the same folder. Next time I will make seperate folders.
Thanks

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

maynot be needed

mgarledge wrote:
a_user wrote:
mgarledge wrote:

I updated my pois today and used the POIloader and it only included the ones that were gpx. I used Extra-POI-Editor and changed the csv ones to gpx and they all uploaded. I thought csv would load with POIloader.

I'm not sure what you mean. I load mostly GPX files but I have some CSV also. Both load, but then I only have either a GPX or a CSV for my POIs. I don't have both types for the same list in the folder I load from.

I had them in the same folder. Next time I will make seperate folders.
Thanks

Mary,

The key is not to have both the GPX and CSV for the same POI in the folder together.

I use two, one on my desktop where I load from and one labeled as source files in My Docs to store the CSVs that I convert. It also holds the masters to the files I maintain.

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Thanks

I do have a mess in my files. When I download an update I have to look for the original to get rid of it.
I will try to set up a better file system. Thanks for the help and information.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

POI Loader won't up load csv files

RockyMtnBlue wrote:

I have been using POI loader and csv files for a number of years, and I wanted to update my custom POI files.

All of sudden, POI loader will not upload my csv files.

I have changed nothing on the files.

I have updated POI loader to 2.1 and my OS to 10.5 since the last time I did an update.

Sure could use help.

Thanks.

Well, I have solved the problem...sort of.

I downloaded Mac Garmin Tools [Thanks Simon] and used their excellent droplets to convert from csv to gpx. Then I used POI loader to to upload the gpx files. I did this for files I only use occasionally [i.e. files for traveling, individual states, etc]

Mac Garmin tools can also convert from gpx to gpi, which I did on the files that I leave on the Garmin all the time [i.e. address book, Costco gas, etc]. These files can be copied right into the Garmin POI folder on the GPS.

I did as suggested in this forum and renamed each type of file as I downloaded them. Thus, the state ones were named NM.gpi, CO.gpi, etc. The permanent files were named MyPOI.gpi.

Thus I can edit my files right in the Garmin POI folder. I can move my temporary files in and out and not touch the permanent files until they need updated.

Thanks to everyone who offered help. Maybe this will help others of you with this problem

Curious...

What Mac Garmin Tool are you referring to? I think I downloaded all the Mac Tools from Garmin's site. Converting from .csv to .gpx with a droplet sounds convenient, but I forget the advantage of .gpx over .csv, unless for some reason you just can't load .csv files. I'm starting to realize how rusty I am on all this from long ago when I created and loaded all my custom poi's. neutral

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Mac Garmin Tools

Simon Slavin's Mac Garmin Tools are at
http://www.bigfraud.org/mac/MacGarminTools/index.html
He recently moved his site.

Check the FAQs for gpx vs csv, but gpx gives you dialable phone numbers, better info displays, etc, etc.

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Thanks....

I had no idea about these files for Mac, although they were developed before Mac versions of POI Loader by Garmin. Also provides a good explanation of the advantage of .gpx over .csv. I just wish I knew why my two units are handling the same poi.gpi file I created so differently on the road, when as still TourGuide alerts and the other no alert at all (except safety cams)..

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