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Campgrounds and RV Parks Combined

 

There are several campground and RV park POI files available here and each fill a niche whether it be an affiliation such as Good Sam or KOA or state or national parks.

Several months ago I started to patch up the existing Campgrounds and RV Parks Combined file for those who might be traveling and simply wanted to find a campground or RV park along their route or near their destination regardless of affiliation. As time permitted, I've whittled out some of the duplicates and corrected locations as I saw problems. It is a challenging task as campgrounds sometimes change their name or they simply go out of business and new ones pop up here and there.

For those who use this file, I welcome your help. If you know of a campground or RV park that is either missing or listed incorrectly in this file, please post the corrections here. If known, please include the address, phone number and coordinates.

I would like to include campgrounds and RV parks in the US and Canada that accommodate those who travel and camp with a tent or some form of RV, not residential trailer parks. This file does not endorse any parks and it is encouraged that the user consult a published directory or browse the internet for current prices, ratings, restrictions and seasonal operation for many in the north.

The file can be found here:

POI Files

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

TXRVer, I am really new here

TXRVer,

I am really new here and have downloaded the POI. It looks very complete. Just want to thank you for putting them all together. If I find anything missing or wrong I will be sure to let you know.

Thanks again,
Rob

Others share in the work

Calbar wrote:

TXRVer,

I am really new here and have downloaded the POI. It looks very complete. Just want to thank you for putting them all together. If I find anything missing or wrong I will be sure to let you know.

Thanks again,
Rob

Welcome to the POI Factory, glad you found us. There's lots of useful POI here, and tons of good information and many folks who are knowledgeable and willing to answer questions that come up.

To my knowledge it was liquidd who initiated this project and I'm sure many others have made contributions to it in the past. I'm just trying to help keep the wheels on track.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

Hello

Just new here. Active hiker, motorbiker, camper, backpacking, etc. and am going to scan through this one since I am planning a motorcycle trip fom CO to CA. Thanks for your input and work on this. Hope to start adding some of my "backcountry" POIs soon.

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Tracy E http://Photos4Aidan.com

Camgrounds

Are these the same campgrounds that are on the uscampgrounds.info site? they have 4 or 5 csv files from different parts of the US and I was wondering if these were all those combined. A long question short, what is the source of these locations? smile

Not sure of origin

dgwood12 wrote:

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A long question short, what is the source of these locations? smile

I have to assume that the original maintainer of this file combined the contents of other individual files that were available at that time. I've noted that there were areas where duplicates, even triplicates of campgrounds existed; perhaps one was accurate and others were nearby, but not necessarily close to the location of the campground: I've even found some out in the middle of a lake! As time permits, I cull out the duplicates and obvious duds; refine the locations using Google Earth street cams wherever available, and add new ones in that area that I'm working on. Among other sources, I use http://www.rvparkreviews.com/ and Google searches for campgrounds around a specific location to verify what's in this file, and to add newly found sites to it.

With input from other users of this file, I hope to make it better and more useful. As you mentioned, there are other files that are more focused such as Good Sams, Jellystone, KOA, National Parks, and those specific to sections of the country. In my opinion, the solution for the user is to save all of these files into a sub-folder named Campgrounds as you would likely do with Restaurants, Fuel stops, etc. Once loaded with POI Loader, you could search for a campground generically, or if only interested in a campground in Yellowstone, point the search to the National Parks file.

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Data Formatting

As an avid RVer, I've always dreamed of finding a GPS unit capable of accepting my input of thousands of campground POIs that can call them up and route me to them. In the interim, I've been creating my own list of campgrounds using Woodall's directory as a base and to date have completed CA, OR, & NV using FileMaker Pro and cross-referencing with Google Earth.

Thrilled that I might be able to save some time, I downloaded this combined North America list and quickly realized most of the data is jumbled together into just four fields (two if you ignore the obviously needed latitude & longitude fields).

So, after importing into FileMaker Pro, I've added two additional fields for sorting purposes: STATE, which includes the two-letter postal designator for state or province, and EARTH which combines the coordinates into a single reading for use with Google Earth (my quickie solution for locating each entry).

To date I have completed 1536 of the 5373 entries in the file and am wondering if, when I'm done, folks would appreciate having this file reposted as a file sorted by state/province.

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Lee Donehower Oakland, CA

Data Formatting

Lee it sounds like you are doing the same thing TXRVer is doing only he is using an existing poi and updating it. I might be worth both of your times to contace each other by e-mail and see it you can work together to help the file rather than duplecate the work. Just a thought. I like the ideal of being able to sort a file by state.

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Garmin vs Magellan vs TomTom

Lee_Donehower wrote:

As an avid RVer, I've always dreamed of finding a GPS unit capable of accepting my input of thousands of campground POIs that can call them up and route me to them. In the interim, I've been creating my own list of campgrounds using Woodall's directory as a base and to date have completed CA, OR, & NV using FileMaker Pro and cross-referencing with Google Earth.

Thrilled that I might be able to save some time, I downloaded this combined North America list and quickly realized most of the data is jumbled together into just four fields (two if you ignore the obviously needed latitude & longitude fields).

So, after importing into FileMaker Pro, I've added two additional fields for sorting purposes: STATE, which includes the two-letter postal designator for state or province, and EARTH which combines the coordinates into a single reading for use with Google Earth (my quickie solution for locating each entry).

To date I have completed 1536 of the 5373 entries in the file and am wondering if, when I'm done, folks would appreciate having this file reposted as a file sorted by state/province.

The nature of the 4-column .csv file as I understand it is that is simple to create and for the most part portable across different brands of GPS receivers with little or no modification. As you noted, fields A & B are reserved for Longitude and Latitude. Fields C & D are typically used for Name and Address/Phone# respectively.

It is possible to expand the data to additional fields, but that may limit the usability of the file to only certain brands. Ideally, one could export this to to a .gpx format. This would likely require a lot of work to expand the address into separate fields and possibly another conversion by the user before they could use it.

I'm not sure I understand the need to separate campgrounds by state/province. When on the road, I ask my GPSr to find campgrounds either near my destination or along my route. If we need to know more, my co-pilot looks up the details in the Woodalls or Trailer Life Directories.

If I want to plan ahead, I open the .csv file in Extra_POI_Editor (http://www.poi-factory.com/node/21156) and it will display all the points on Google Earth; I then zoom in on my area of interest and explore.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

Garmin vs Magellan vs Tom Tom

Okay, let's start with what GPS model/unit should I buy that will accept more than a thousand POIs? I bought a Magellan for my Bounder back in 2004 and spent over $3,000 on it. But it contains no port for adding my own data. It will allow me to manually enter GPS coordinates, but will not give me directions to them (draws a straight line to the point). I looked at Garmins at MacWorld two or three years ago and they limited personal input to 1,000. There's nearly that many campgrounds in California alone.

So, I started going through the Woodalls Directory and the AAA campground directory and created my own database using FileMaker Pro in anticipation of the day that my "perfect" unit would become available. In the interim, I would rely on my laptop for help.

The directions given in the directories were often awful with campground owners submitting directions from a point that frequently was beyond the campground when compared to my current location. I meticulously located the campgrounds using Google Earth, then entered the resulting Lat/Longs into my database.

Once I find a GPS unit that will accept my POIs, it's a pretty simple process in FileMaker Pro to export only those fields that would be compatible with the unit.

So, what unit is out there that accepts a limitless number of POIs and what is its import source (USB disk, SD flash card, etc.)?

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Lee Donehower Oakland, CA

What unit to buy

"So, what unit is out there that accepts a limitless number of POIs and what is its import source (USB disk, SD flash card, etc.)?"

Lee there a number of unit that will hold numderous poi;s I use a nuiv 660 but htere are newer one that give more info. I can update and install poi's bu way of usb, sd card using poi-loader, You just need to revied to see which one is for your needs. (routes, mp3, and so on. I would read gary site to help.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ghayman3/garmin.gps/index.html
good luck.

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

Lee,On a Garmin you can

Lee,

On a Garmin you can load all of your campgrounds, you just can't do it as waypoints (favorites).

I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in, but if you can get all of the info into a .csv format (Excel) you can upload them using Garmin's POI loader. That's what we are doing here with POI's.

I regularly load >20K POI's to my units.

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Jeff...... Nuvi 2460, Nuvi 2595

Favorites vs POI

Lee_Donehower wrote:

Okay, let's start with what GPS model/unit should I buy that will accept more than a thousand POIs? ...

The terms Favorites and Waypoints are typically interchangeable and most GPSr units have a limit of 500 to 1000. Favorites are points that the user creates either by marking the spot so as to be able to return to it at a later time, or manually creates them as points to go to in the future. This can be done directly on the GPSr or on a PC/Mac with software that is bundled with the device.

POI, while similar in concept are another breed apart. A typical GPSr with detailed maps often comes with 4-6 million POI. These are part of the map database and cannot be altered or removed, but are often updated with a new mapset that replaces the old.

Custom POI are those that the user can either create or download and then install onto the GPSr. The POI Factory has arguably the best collection of Custom POI to be found anywhere. Not all are perfect, but the users work to make them better all the time. The only limit to how many you can install on your GPSr is how much memory is available.

I have about 180,000 Custom POI on my nüvi which occupies about 21 MB of internal memory and have 630 MB still free. If I needed more space, I could plug in an SD card of any size up to 32 GB. I don't foresee that need but it's there if needed.

Nearly all current GPSr models designed for automotive use connect to a PC with a USB cable to facilitate software and map updates as well as to install Custom POI. I am partial to Garmin as that is what I own, but I know those who have TomToms and Magellans and they are equally happy with theirs.

I see you are a new user here at the POI Factory. Welcome!!! There is a lot to be learned from others here also. You will find many recommendations and opinions on different brands and models. I think you should be able to find a great GPSr for $200-400 that has all the features you want.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

Directories vs campground websites

Lee_Donehower wrote:

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The directions given in the directories were often awful with campground owners submitting directions from a point that frequently was beyond the campground when compared to my current location.
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I've found the directions in the Trailer Life Directory to be among the best, possibly since the directions are written by the reviewers and not the owners. The recent edition includes GPS coordinates in the DDD.ddddd format that is most useful to us. Even still, I've found coordinates for a few campgrounds that were considerably off, most likely due to a typo in a significant digit.

As for a campground's own website, directions can be a roll of the dice sometimes using landmarks that only the locals would know. Most of their GPS coordinates when provided are not very good as they often use geocoding methods that are not reliable. If it was my site, I would be sure the coordinates were for my driveway and not some point in the middle of a lake 2 miles away!!!

The only reliable methods I know of is personal knowledge of individual submitters and to be able to see the property on Google Earth with confirmation from the street view cams.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

Custom POIs

Indeed, I am the new kid on the block. Half the problem is not knowing what question to ask, but you folks are helping me zero in on what I really want to know.

So, we're talking about "Custom POIs." And you're saying that just about any GPS on the market can accommodate them these days. Sadly, I've never seen that feature hilited or even mentioned in the ads I've encountered, hence my ignorance.

What's important to me: 1. LARGE screen. I do not wear glasses for driving, but must for computer screens. Needless to say, I can't be taking glasses on & off while driving.

2. Unlimited amount of POIs that I can create on my computer (Mac), then upload to the unit in the RV.

3. The RV unit must be able to read my POIs and give me a driving route to them. This may sound like an odd point, but units I've had the opportunity to play with to date do not give driving instructions but rather a straight line to user imported data, mistakenly thinking I'm trying to drive off-road.

CSV is computer shorthand for Comma Separated Text, meaning any text editor can generate/read them. I prefer to import my csv files into FileMaker Pro where I can more easily edit and sort them.

Once done, FileMaker Pro allows me to export the edited data in just about any format you can think of: Excel (which I don't use), comma-separated text, tab-separated text, etc.

At that point I'd be able to import the text file into whatever software the unit works with (Garmin, Magellan, etc.) to make it understandable by the unit.

Two years ago I got to talk directly to the Garmin engineers at MacWorld. Sadly, each one I talked to gave a different answer as to the capability of their product.

I'm retired. I'm a perfectionist. I have the time and the motivation to design the most complete and most accurate campground database. Essentially, I want a Woodalls Guide in digital format on my laptop for reference and the essentials in my GPS for navigation.

Recommendations?

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Lee Donehower Oakland, CA

Lousy Directions

TXRVer wrote:
Lee_Donehower wrote:

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The directions given in the directories were often awful with campground owners submitting directions from a point that frequently was beyond the campground when compared to my current location.
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I've found the directions in the Trailer Life Directory to be among the best, possibly since the directions are written by the reviewers and not the owners. The recent edition includes GPS coordinates in the DDD.ddddd format that is most useful to us. Even still, I've found coordinates for a few campgrounds that were considerably off, most likely due to a typo in a significant digit.

As for a campground's own website, directions can be a roll of the dice sometimes using landmarks that only the locals would know. Most of their GPS coordinates when provided are not very good as they often use geocoding methods that are not reliable. If it was my site, I would be sure the coordinates were for my driveway and not some point in the middle of a lake 2 miles away!!!

The only reliable methods I know of is personal knowledge of individual submitters and to be able to see the property on Google Earth with confirmation from the street view cams.

Which is why I hunt down every last campground on Google Earth and use its coordinates in my databases. I convert all DDMMSS coordinates to decimal degrees using a widget I created with FileMaker Pro.

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Lee Donehower Oakland, CA

GPS for RV

Lee, after reading your wishes/requirments for a GPS for your RV, I wonder if you have considered using your laptop computer itself as a GPS. If you could come up with a good way to mount it and power it in your RV, it is pretty easy to add on a USB connected GPS receiver. I know Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Delorme LT-40 receiver is popular with some RV'ers. Microsoft Streets and Trips can also be used.

Reading your post again, I see that you are a Mac user. Unfortunately, I think both Street Atlas USA and Streets and Trips are Windows. I know Street Atlas will run in Parallels ... not sure about S&T. Anyway, you might want to look into it ... certainly would give you the large screen capability.

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Alan - Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra

Garmin

Lee_Donehower wrote:

Indeed, I am the new kid on the block. Half the problem is not knowing what question to ask, but you folks are helping me zero in on what I really want to know.
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What's important to me: 1. LARGE screen.
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2. Unlimited amount of POIs that I can create on my computer (Mac), then upload to the unit in the RV.

3. The RV unit must be able to read my POIs and give me a driving route to them.
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At that point I'd be able to import the text file into whatever software the unit works with (Garmin, Magellan, etc.) to make it understandable by the unit.
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Recommendations?

You're not alone here. Some of us got our first GPSr as a gift or heard about these things and thought this might be better than a paper map; and we had the 1st sense that this was a cool device and lacking any significant manual figured that what we saw was what we got. Then somehow we discovered the POI Factory and learned that this "toy" could also be a "tool" and there were lots of possibilities most of us never thought of. It was then that the questions started and we all began to learn from each other.

Garmin offers many lines of GPS receivers, each tailored to different activities; some better for boating, some for hiking and geocaching and others for highway navigation which the nüvi line is best suited for. Within the current nüvi line are about 2 dozen models. Every few months, some models are discontinued and newer ones fill the gaps. It is bewildering to those who have some experience. Look here for what's current and check the boxes of what you want to narrow the field.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134

Note: there is no mention of Custom POI on this list but any model should handle any amount of POI that a person could come up with. I'd bet you could download every POI file on this site and not overflow an SD card.

The boxes I would recommend are Widescreen (some are larger than others), Speaks street names, and Multiple point routing. Consider a discontinued model; the price drops dramatically and some of the newest models are no better than the discontinued. Really good ones can be found for $200 or so.

All with the above selections will give you spoken turn by turn directions. I recommend choosing fastest over shortest routing as the shortest will take odd streets, etc., while the fastest tends to stick to major roads. Nüvis do offer an off road mode which is your familiar line of sight route which is desirable for geocaching but not driving! I like the multiple route feature. You can select your destination and be presented with a route, then later decided to add a couple of rest stops for Fido and a Cracker Barrel for lunch. The nüvi will search for these specifically along your route and let you select which you want and then it modifies your route on the fly to accommodate these vias.

Garmin provides all the necessary software in both PC and Mac versions. There are a number of 3rd party utilities that enhance some of this, but as always, there is less support for the Mac owners.

Beware of the subtle differences; some models have the 48 state maps, others North America maps... That might be important if you ever plan to travel into Canada. That's why one needs to understand all the variations and realize that any given store may only carry a few models. Decide on a model, then find who sells them and look for the best price.

From an RVers perspective, I might look at the 465T as it's truck routing feature mimics many of the needs of an RVer with a big rig. I have a discontinued 750 and am completely satisfied with it.

Someone else today suggested Gary Hayman's page and I have to ditto that. Don't try to absorb it all in one reading, but it will give you a sense of what you can do with a nüvi and how to do it. I refer to it often as there is lots of great stuff there.

http://home.comcast.net/~ghayman3/garmin.gps/index.html

Perhaps others will weigh in with other suggestions for specific models or other brands.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

A reason not for a laptop as the front seat GPSr

alandb wrote:

Lee, after reading your wishes/requirments for a GPS for your RV, I wonder if you have considered using your laptop computer itself as a GPS.
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On the surface, a laptop with a GPSr dongle such as those Delorme and Microsoft offer seems promising. In real life experience, most laptops cannot produce a viewable screen in the bright "greenhouse" found in the front end of a motorhome. The necessity to operate the interface with either a keyboard or touchpad/mouse also means this is strictly a co-pilot device. The touch screen operation of the current portable automotive devices like the nüvi and TomTom can be less distracting for the driver.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

I agree

TXRVer, your points about the problems with using a laptop as a GPS are well taken. Based on what I have read in other forums, there are apparently some RVer's who have come up with a usable solution ... maybe you have run acorss them in your travels. I assume the keyboard operation for these users is generally done by the passenger and not the driver (at least I hope so). Also, the Delorme SA has a voice recognition interface that might work ok if you use an external microphone.

I am not an RV'er, but I did use Delorme SA as a GPS in my car for family vacations before I got the Garmin. I used a power inverter and USB extension cord so my son could operate it from the back seat. I was able to hear the navigation prompts and my son did all the keyboard and voice input. With the power inverter and full screen brightness, there was no problem seeing the display in the back seat. It actually worked quite well.

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Alan - Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra

A reason not for a laptop as the front seat GPSr

Before I got my nuvi, I used my laptop on a stand next to me with Ms S&T. I had not problem seeing or earing it. You can use certin buttons but not recommended in traffic of any kind. I would have the wife do any changes or input needed. Like the big screen better, but can see my 660 very good even with the sun shinning in the front, or side of the motorhome.

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

Dakotah Meadows RV Park

I just made reservations at Dakotah Meadows RV Park in MN and noticed that it wasn't listed.

Here are the GPS coordinates from Google Maps:
44.72617,-93.474709

And the details from their website:

Dakotah Meadows RV Park
2341 Park Place
Prior Lake, MN 55372

952-445-8800

http://www.dakotahmeadows.com/

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"There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't."

It is now

Stargazer wrote:

I just made reservations at Dakotah Meadows RV Park in MN and noticed that it wasn't listed.

Thanks for the input, this is just what I need to improve the file.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

thanks for this file very

thanks for this file very helpful for us rvers even though the usual stay is a local walmart LOL

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As my wife and I are going

As my wife and I are going to be rv'ing full time for awhile, would love it by state. My heart felt thanks to all that have contributed. On our travels we will post if we find anything amiss or new.

Thank you

dk-dave wrote:

... On our travels we will post if we find anything amiss or new.

We appreciate any and all updates users can contribute as they make these files better and more useful for all.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

An added RV Park

Tall Texan Campground in Gunnison, Colorado.

-106.91931 38.58093

Phoned: (970) 641-2929

Thank you very much. I often

Thank you very much.
I often have trouble following Woodall's directions.
Many times the address on the web is not usable for the gps. This will make a great cross reference and a heart felt thanks will be sent out overtime I access this file.

I'm delighted you have found this useful

JBTcajun wrote:

...Many times the address on the web is not usable for the gps...

I took on this file awhile back and as time permits, I work to improve its accuracy. I've found many inaccuracies and expect there are many more, it just takes time to wade through it, cull out the duplicates, add new locations and correct those that are simply incorrect. I am amazed at how many campground websites post their coordinates, but when pluged into Google Earth, they end up in the middle of a lake or a grocery store parking lot on the opposite side of town! laugh out loud

Geocoding street addresses has a ways to go before we can rely on it to any extent.

As always, I'm receptive to any additions or corrections users can supply. I would particularly like any input on listed RV parks and campgrounds that in fact do not cater to travelers and true campers but are either permanent resident parks or membership only facilities.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

One more correction

I found there are three entries for this RV Park.
The coordinates for the below entry are the most correct.

-90.473582,38.798656,Sundermeier RV Park,"111 Transit St, St. Charles MO ,636-940-0111"

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"Advice to children crossing the street: Damn the lights. Watch the cars. The lights ain't never killed nobody." - Moms Mabley" Garmin StreetPilot C330, Garmin NUVI 765T

This would have really

This would have really helped last summer when we were in the States...Nice work everyone.

Really nice Ark state park not on the list

Mount Magazine State Park near Little Rock, Ark is not on your list. They list their GPS coordinates for the Visitor Center as N35.1746 W93.6189

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Bobbo, Linda, and the furry kids

Great POI list

Great POI List thanks a ton. I did see one missing off the list though, one of my favorite campgrounds.

PirateLand Family Campground in Myrtle Beach
GPS COORDINATES:
Latitude: 33.642445
Longitude: 78.946562

Coordinates:
33.642445, -78.946562
N33°38.5467, W078°56.79372

Looks like there may be a few more in the myrtle beach area not on here as well. There is a big strip of campgrounds right near pirate land.

Addition

Thank you Robert, I've updated the file with this State Park. It will be on the next release later this week.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

Additons

Thank you Gun Geek. I've made the addition and updated the Myrtle Beach area. New file should be up shortly.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

campground directory ,s

now, 5/19/2013, you can purchase a cd of the trailer life campground directory, maby a direct down load, don't remember on that. They are not the best for forest service,blm,coe state and local parks, but good for a huge # of campgrounds. Just learing about the poi files and download and install methods. Have a Garmin Nuvi 1450lmt, just updated to the Garmin Express, which then updated the Nuvi firmware, then the latest maps. Quick, great user interface, worked smoooth ! I have loaded a Ham radio repeater guide that shows the closest repeaters using my gps position. This is from the ARRL web site store, $24.95 All for now, still learning !

Missing: Down by the River Campground

Down by the River Campground
292 River Campground Rd
Pineola, NC 28662
(828) 733-5057

http://www.downbytherivercampground.com/

36.026993,-81.895823

Garmin RV76MT

I am new to this site (less than 2 hrs). I would suggest looking at the Garmin 760. It is designed for RV's and most RV's on irv2.com that have purchased it are impressed. It will accept an SD memory card if you need more memory. I do own it and love it.
Dennis

Additions

Just spotted your note, Down by the River is now in the file. Thank you for the addition.

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"There's no substitute for local knowledge"

Laptop Navigation

We used the old EnRoute Program to navigate with our old laptop years ago. I loved it. However Garmin did not and stopped supporting it. What I liked about it was the huge screen which allowed you to look far ahead and anticipate problems before they happened. When your pulling 25 plus feet of 5th wheel behind you, mistakes can be anywhere from inconvenient to catastrophic. Our old Street Pilot (2610) tried to take us over Lookout Mountain in Tennessee on a narrow road that ended in someones front yard. That was really ugly. The downside was that it required a dedicated user and a stand to rest the laptop on. I still have an install on an old Compaq computer. The battery is dead and the hard drive is full, but it still works.
Bill

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Rode Hard and Put Away Wet

Thank you for the file. I

Thank you for the file. I use it often since we rather use our GPS or phone instead of the book.

I'm glad that the trailerlife directory is now available as an Android app.

Delorme

Since I use Delorme Street Atlas, for a number of reasons, one you can ask questions of it with answers as long you have a microphone. I use a Dell laptop running Win 7. My laptop is in the back seat, another reason, because if I look at a screen I will go that way. SA will except as many POI files as you can load, so far I have loaded 40 at one time. Also you can make your own route with via's I have had 10 via's at one time, unknown if there is a limit. SA will load any amount of POI's in one file, like WI-Fi in POI Factory it has 67000 different locations, as long it is in GPX Format, there is a limit on CSV of 250. The bigger the file the longer it take to load the first time. After that it doesn't take to much time.

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