GPS in California?

 

I was reading that in California you are not allowed to adhere a GPS device to your windshield or anywhere that it obstructs the drivers vision. So where am I allowed to place it??

This is the same in Illinois and Wisconsin.

I have been told by police directly, in IL and WI that anything mounted to the windshield is an obstruction of the drivers view. Thats why Garmin, Magellan and other GPS makers provide an adhesive disc to stick to the top of your dashboard.

Personally speaking, it's just a cop out(no pun) for a police officer to still issue some kind of ticket (verbal/written/warning) when nothing else is wrong. You have to meet that quota...

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Garmin III+, Magellan 3100 Maestro, Garmin Nuvi 255WT

Bean bag mounts???

I've heard good things about the bean bag mounts. Are they a good alternative?

i live in CA and use the bean bag mount

I think it is a great alternative. It makes the GPS easily portable. I'm able to place my nuvi in a spot on the dash where none of my view of the road is impeded.

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Like my bean bag mount

I have this bean bag mount. Works great - no sliding, adapts to any shape dash, easily portable (from car to car or to hide in car when not using), and leaves no mark on the dash. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LRMS66/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp...

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Nuvi 350

dash mount

My truck dash has raised spots that won't let much stick to it. On a different poiny. I noticed you have a Nuzi. I am trying to copy multiple maps to mine but can't get them to work, Have you had experience with that

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poppywhite

Sorry for the spelling, I

Sorry for the spelling, I was in the dark

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poppywhite

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rmartinez56 wrote:

I was reading that in California you are not allowed to adhere a GPS device to your windshield or anywhere that it obstructs the drivers vision. So where am I allowed to place it??

(12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated and outside of an airbag deployment zone.

source
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm

Bean bag doesn't count as windshield mount

that is why many of us use it. My nuvi is in no way attached to the windshield and it is down low, not in the middle of the window.

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Nuvi 2598 LMT Nuvi 3597 LMT

Law Change in California

About 2 years ago California changed the law so you can place the GPS mount on the windshield in the lower left hand corner of the windshield as long as it doesn't obscure vision. This is one of those laws that is rarely enforced though.

Personally I use a bean bag mount, I find it much more stable and because it's so easy to move when I park I don't advertise that I have a GPS by leaving a mount in my window.

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Nuvi 360, OS X Lion 10.7

Where am I allowed to place it?

Have you considered somewhere on the East Coast?

bean bag

I'm a big fan of the bean bag mount. I had no end of troubles with the windshield mount not sticking, esp in cold weather, and it was a tremendous hassle to take down (for hiding) and put back up. The only problem I've had with the bean bag is that sometimes the bottom gets dusty and it starts to slide around. If I wipe it down with a damp towel it stops sliding.

Vent Mount

I purchased a vent mount its low and works great. Just Google "GPS vent mount garmin" and there is a bunch of them.

Minnesota is the only . . .

Minnesota is the only state that still has a law that states that you can not adhere anything to the windshield. However, I believe all states have some kind of obstruction of view law that can be used. They have all kinds of laws that a cop can use to issue tickets if he/she wishes.

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GPS mount

I have mine mounted lower by the radio, much easier to see that way, and does not block the view.

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NUVI 680, NUVI 5000, MS S&T,

Bean bag mount

I use the bean bag mount in my truck and it stays put.

Bean Bags

The bean bag mounts are great! I've been using them since I bought my first GPS years ago. When I bought my first GPS, I tried the windshield mount, but when it fell off the windshield shortly thereafter, I decided to try something else. The bean bag fit the bill and as I said, I've been using them ever since.

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I am in CA and using my

I am in CA and using my garmin placing on windshield. What you have to do is just place it in 5 inch lower corner of windshield on driver side, its the most convenient place to see the traffic ahead and GPS together. Why to invest for friction mount when you get windshield mount for free!!!!

Windsheild Mouting

I use it both ways. I put the GPS low enough that
it is blocking the view of my hood - if they ticket
me for that it would be BS but, its open season on
the taxpayer any way to get more "revenue". In my
work vehicle I use the little disk glued to a depression in the dash. It works pretty well.

I'm not in California . .

and I would never live there, unless they modified their stance on life control.

My unit is mounted at the very upper left edge of my windshield - the only thing it obstructs is my view of the sky.

Wiring is run inside the trim on the pillar and because my unit has a single microphone on the left side of the housing, I have an external microphone (likewise with wiring hidden under trim) mounted on the ceiling console that my car has.

Works great - can't be seen from outside through the tint bar (the dark strip at the top of the windshield) and is out of direct sunlight.

Having said that, Cali cars built starting in 2014 (or was it 2012?) will be shielded very well by the new metallic glass that the controllers have mandated must be used for all window glass to reduce the heat load on vehicular air conditioners - that's gonna turn the car into a farraday cage.

If they were REALLY concerned about conservation and the environment they'd just outlaw air conditioning altogether.

Oops. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything. It might give them ideas. . . . .

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Currently have: SP3, GPSMAP 276c, Nuvi 760T, Nuvi 3790LMT, Zumo 660T

I'm Not In California

How is the "farraday cage" affect going to impact mobile phones and such, if at all?

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DeLorme PN-40 (hand-held); LT-40 (laptop); Garmin C330

Do you know what

BlueCocoon wrote:

How is the "farraday cage" affect going to impact mobile phones and such, if at all?

Do you know what a Farraday Cage is? A simple explanation is the cage prevents the transmission or reception of radio signals to or from any device inside the cage to or from a device outside the cage.

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Its kalifornia.. This is the

Its kalifornia..
This is the same state that considers hotels a 'toxic zone' and must warn you about it?
Why? Because the hotel has laundry facilities.

This is no lie..I experienced this personally. They had a sign regarding this at the front door. I had to walk away shaking my head in both laughter and disgust.
I was staying at said hotel.

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Nuvi 350 Born Oct 07 - Nuvi 660 Unit #2 (re)Born Sept 08 - Nuvi 360(Gift to 'the chick' yet maintained by myself) Born July 08

I placed mine at odometer.

I placed mine at odometer. Try to locate so it's not blocking the meter. Stick them with vecro.

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Nuvi 2450LM

I use the Garmin Portable

I use the Garmin Portable Friction Mount. Works really well.

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Calif GPS in windshields

After reading the Calif-DMV link supplied by the original commenter, I have also read that ! IF ! the device allows the electronic management of California TOLL roads the device should be legal when placed "in the center" of the windshield. please check this for yourself, however this is how I read it & understand it to be true. Placed nearly behind the right edge of the mirror, still visible & obviously I only listen to mine when I drive not program, while driving.

Be Smart... READ it Yourself to be SURE

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm

Use your electronic GPS device to manage your use of Toll Roads.

Changes the whole idea of where the device can be put in your windshield.

Hmm

It makes me wonder about the new law for metalized glass with this one:
(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any greater extent than the windshield without the material.

I guess they'll just change the law.

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Tiny little paragraphs...

In California it's legal to place a windshiled mounted GPS within:

"a 7-inch square area in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver {the passenger side} or in a 5-inch square area in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver {the lower left corner of the windshield}."

LOL...It seems obvious the 5-inches and 7-inches are just arbitrary, made-up numbers. It is the slope of the windscreen that determines the actual area-of-view blocked from the driver. e.g. 5-inches on a Jeep's vertical windscreen blocks a lot more view than 5-inches on a sloped Farrari windscreen.

But, as it is, if you mount the GPS anywhere else on your windshield while in California you are a scoff-law, you are endangering yourself and those around you, and you should be punished to the maximum extent of the law.

You have been warned...

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CA GPS on windshield

I put mine in the uppermost left of the windshield. Point of fact; since the seventies Ford and others have been putting the rear view mirror dead center of the view to front right with no issue. What's up with that?!
Another point; has anyone noted the use of head up displays in combat aircraft and other military transport? They seem to have no problem with obstructed view.
Final point; In the upper left position it's virtually impossible for anyone to see, and it's easy to see the screen without taking your eyes off the road, it's shaded from sun glare, if your nav does Bluetooth speaker phone it's close to your voice and hearing. I've been stopped several times with my Nuvi up and it was never noticed, especially when the visor is flipped down, covering the unit completely. And as stated by another poster, the unit only blocks my view of the sky. Of course if I was flying combat that might be a problem, but again NASA would have to argue even that point. The best and legal solution has been a Velcro strip mount on the back of the visor, not mounted to the glass, easy to remove, and now I don't have to bother, I just flip up the visor and it disappears with no trace.

way to ressurect an old thread . . .

However having done so I point out that putting your nav in the upper left corner of the windshield puts the microphone pointed out the window if you use the device as your speakerphone.

How do I know? Because that's where I have mine.

The solution is to use Garmin's external microphone, which works better than the internal one - mine is installed at the front of the ceiling center console - the wiring is hidden under the windshield moulding.

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Currently have: SP3, GPSMAP 276c, Nuvi 760T, Nuvi 3790LMT, Zumo 660T

Maps?

poppywhite wrote:

My truck dash has raised spots that won't let much stick to it. On a different poiny. I noticed you have a Nuzi. I am trying to copy multiple maps to mine but can't get them to work, Have you had experience with that

For free maps and excellent tutorials on how to:

Download

Install onto your computer

Load onto your Garmin GPS

Go to GPSFileDepot.com

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If you ain't got pictures, I wasn't there.

Always

Always used the adhesive disk or my beloved bean bag mount (which makes it easy to transfer between multiple vehicles and place it multiple locations where it never moves unless I roll the car.)

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Garmin 205, 260W, 1450LMT, 2460LMT, HEREwego for iPhone ... all still mapping strong.

Bean bag puts the gps in the way

The bean bag mount would put it in a location that would block more of my view than where I have it on my windshield. Laws like this sometimes do more harm than good.

I feel the same with texting laws. Now i see more people looking at there knees (assumably texting), instead of texting at the top of the steering wheel with a minor shift in vision. Not saying you should text & drive, but the laws that address this cause new problems. Red Light cameras are another example.

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TexasAggie wrote:

Now i see more people looking at there knees (assumably texting), instead of texting at the top of the steering wheel with a minor shift in vision.

The herd WILL be culled as per Darwin's Law.

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nüvi 3790T | nüvi 775T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK