Airplane use

 

I did a search and I didn't find my answer, so I am asking.

If the airline allows the gps to be on, has anyone ever tried it? What does it show? Does it show the 'car' moving VERY fast across the map, so fast that you can't even tell where you are on land? How fast did the speedometer go?

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -
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I tried it. I turned it on

I tried it. I turned it on before take off then after the plane got in the air, it said lost satilite. Then 1 hour later, the plane landed and it showed the new location and the max speed on my unit showed 525 miles per hour. I wish it was able to show the speed from the map.
Rogersgps

Airplane use

I have done it several times. You have to zoom out some but it is really neat to know exactly where you are and which little town that you are looking at. You can also do a route with off road settings and get the distance to your destination airport.

Could not use on a Delta Flight

I flew Delta and on the way up GPS use was fine but on the way back a Neurotic flight (she seemed anal about everything) attend told me I could not use it. I told her I would comply because she said so but I had seen where Delta among other air lines do approve the use of the handheld GPS devices because it an FCC class B device. Then she said it was a FAA rule that GPS can not be used on any airlines and that if she doesn't tell me that air line can be fined. On the way up the flight attendant kept asking me "so where are we now"

The bottom line is that I have three other choices for air lines I can fly who offer the similar service for the same price so which one do you think I will choose next time! Other than Delta being late, my bags getting lost, and small seats which are cramped, I didn't have a reason not to fly them. But I like using my GPS on the flight too much to ignore this.

Goes for any request

Glad you brought this up. Any request a crew member makes should be honoured, no matter how unusual it may seem. They may not have time to explain and the requests are usually in the interest of the passengers. If you have an issue with something you're being asked to do, but you just don't want to do it, you're better off doing it anyway and then asking (politely and discreetly) to have the reason explained. If the request seems odd but not truly unreasonable, such as being asked to sit with another passenger, there may be a good reason you're not aware of. The only exception I would make (and would ask to see the captain or co-captain) would be in the case that a request was truly unreasonable, bordering on the absurd. Even then I would try to think if there may be some legitimate reason for it and comply any way and take up my issues with the request later while on the ground.

Flying!!!

I checked mine on a flight from Johannesburg to Cape Town - South Africa.
Clocked 495 mph and took a screen shot.

Pretty cool. Had no problems from airline staff.

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Nuvi 715 (Sucks), Nuvi 670 (dead)& Garmin GPS 72. South African living Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

http://flightaware.com/live/

http://flightaware.com/live/

Pick your flight, click STATUS.
Displays time, LAT/LON, speed, Altitude for current and past flights.

Airplane Use

I fly Falcon 50's for a fortune 50+ company. On transcon flights I love to stick my Nuvi350 on the glare shield and watch the roads fly by. I was amazed at how well it works, even when the screen is zoomed in. Just for the fun of it I change the car to a spaceship. Now who's the geek?

JJ

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James

Flying

Some screen shots while on a flight...

www.gaddfam.net/gps

Unfortunately forgot to change my icon to a rocket ship or similar...

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Nuvi 715 (Sucks), Nuvi 670 (dead)& Garmin GPS 72. South African living Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

I work for Delta. Our

I work for Delta. Our company allows limited, restricted use of GPS aboard. You MUST read the restrictions as shown in the Sky Magazine. Due to the curvature of the fuselage it is sometimes difficult to obtain a strong signal from several birds. However, when you do, the "car" moves VERY fast. My Streetpilot III also tells me ground speed and altitude AGL. There will be a difference between actual altitude as displayed on the GPS and pressure altitude as shown on the "AirShow" aboard the aircraft.

What they said on Alaska Airlines

I just returned from Vancouver BC via Alaska airlines. During the safety instructions the flight attendant announced when they got to the part about electronics included no GPS units were allowed at anytime during the flight sad(

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nüvi 660 & 670 - Hello I'm a Mac :))

GPS on Airplane

I'm flying to Denver with Nuvi 350. I have an aisle seat, so I may not get the signal, but will report in.

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nüvi 750 & 760

As much as I love my c550,

As much as I love my c550, I've never used it in a plane. Mostly because of it's size and shape. It's kind of awkward to hold in your hand.. of course that's because it's meant to be mounted in a car, not held in hand.

Oh well, it's still cool to hear other people's stories about them.

airplane use

I have used the Nuvi 660 a couple of times on a commercial airplane. You have to have a window seat, but on the Nuvi you can just set it on the tray. you don't have to hold it up to the window. the top speed i have on the Nuvi is 572 mph. I keep it there so if I am ever pulled over a cop can't ever use my gps to show i was speeding.

It is hard to zoom the map out far enough to see where you are.

I think that the 550 is

I think that the 550 is easier to hold then the nuvi, but that is just me.

I really doubt that a cop is going to ask you to show your top speed on the GPSr if you get pulled. he already knows your speed.

I have never had any issues with zooming out, make sure that you have it set to 2D North up.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

dude, you can't get a gps

dude, you can't get a gps satellite signal through an airplane. i've taken numerous gps units on airplanes numerous times and never acquired a signal

I have done the same, but

isaacjd wrote:

dude, you can't get a gps satellite signal through an airplane. i've taken numerous gps units on airplanes numerous times and never acquired a signal

But, I have been able to get signals. Some planes can't, some can. JetBlue works pretty well, so does Delta.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

There are numerous reports of it working on airplanes

isaacjd wrote:

dude, you can't get a gps satellite signal through an airplane. i've taken numerous gps units on airplanes numerous times and never acquired a signal

Depends on the plane and your position in the plane. With SIRF, it works in many cases. I have used my c530 on planes in the window seat.

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Garmin StreetPilot c530, Mapsource

I didn't get a single

I didn't get a single satellite reception from an aisle seat.

Rats!

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nüvi 750 & 760

Aisle Seat

Uggh. I also had an aisle seat this time. No fun at all since my 660 could not get any satellites either.

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Garmin Nuvi 2699 with 2017.30 Maps

Two Weeks

Traveling to my place in CO and it involves three different types of Aircraft (MD-88 B757, B-737) Will report on reception.

Sometimes and sometimes not

spider_elliott wrote:

I didn't get a single satellite reception from an aisle seat.

Rats!

Yeah, I have experienced both, Sometimes I can reception from an aisle seat, sometimes not.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

VOR POI

Too cool, thanks. My husband uses Garmin's aviation GPS. I'll ask him if we can use VOR POI as a redundent system to the current redundent system. I've always got the unit with me anyway.

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Andrea

Airplane Use

I just joined the POI site, it is great, I was able to download Harley Davidson dealerships, so thank you. I have tried my Zumo550 on an airline and it really did not show mw anything,this was a while ago, and if I remember correctly, my GPS was trying to aquire satellites and never did pick up anything. Thanks,

Dan

DELTA:I've actually looked in Sky mag and the GPS isn't adressed

Could you elaborate on what you mean by limited restricted use. For one thing, from what I have seen, a GPS should not be used below 10,000 feet per FAA regs. But above 10,000 feet it is not prohibited if it is a FCC class 1B device which the newer Garmin units are and most any GPS you could carry are.

I turned off my unit when asked. But I asked why and I was told that the FAA prohibited it. When I quoted the req she said then it because if everyone tried to use one it would interfere with each other GPS. I don't think there was anything I didn't know about. Just an attend who didn't know herself and didn't want to find out. I like my GPS enough and I fly often enough that I will avoid airlines that do not allow me to use mine unless they are the only one's flying in are a lot cheaper. But usually, there are two or three going there for the same price at the same time.

I taken mine on several delta flights and most of the attends comment how cool it is or say people usually ask me where we are.

Can get GPS signal on an Airplane?

I've been able to use mine everytime and get a signal. In fact my usually reads 12ft accuracy. My speed on Sunday was 569 MPS at 41,771 feet. On the 717's I have even been able to walk down the isle holding it at window hight and not lost signal. On the widebody's one needs to be near the window. Of course, my unit has very good reception. Some units do not receive as well.

I use the suction cup

The suction cup works fine to hold it. Wish it worked as well in the car!

I've used my Garmin 660 on

I've used my Garmin 660 on two flights. For some reason, one stewardess said my GPS was a wifi device and must be turned off. Needless to say I left it on most of t6he trip between Sacramento and Atlanta.
Boy what a device! I got ground-speed (600 mph max), altitude, and I could watch my vehicle as it traveled across country. Streets, rivers, cities, the whole nine yards.

A week ago I traveled from Sacramento to Seattle. Same whiz bang experience, except we never got over 590 mph.

Hold your Garmin near a window and watch the action.

I love my little nuvi. Jill and I go everywhere together.

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Bill Rowan

No trouble on Southwest

I used my nuvi 650 this past week on flights from BWI to Phoenix and back. Attendants saw me use and never said a thing. I was told by a friend later that the Southwest inflight magazine says that GPS are not permitted.

It is great fun seeing where you are over the USA. I had driven from Philly to Tucson this past summer and it was fun to retrace the route from the air.

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Brent - DriveLuxe 51 LMT-S

GPS as MP3 Players

Just plug an earphone into the unit and listen to a pod-cast, then watch where you are.

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Allan Barnett - Garmin nüvi 885T/765T/Pharos GPS (bluetooth) w/MS Maps on PPC

Electronics in Flight

On rare occasions, I get the chance to fly my companies corporate jet. I asked the pilots about the electronics use while in flight. The answer surprised me: Doesn't matter...

We left cell phones, Blackberries, laptops, and... GPS's turned on from take off to touch down. They do not disturb the electronics in the cockpit. Which they also have a Garmin based system in the cockpit as do many airlines.

This was also re-iterated by a friend of mine that is a flight engineer on a jet aircraft and also... on Mythbusters sometime last year.

My assumption is they want devices turned off for safety, reduced anxiety, etc. You need to be aware of what is going on around you and react in case of emergency. Same reason it isn't good to text while driving and leave heavy objects in the rear window in case your rear ended (instant flying missile).

My suggestion - just ask. If they say it is okay, pop it out, flip to off road, zoom out, and enjoy the flight.

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JEOII

to "the hill" Window or isle

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so that's what that bell means. 10K feet. I was wondering. Wow you guys know so much. I'm kinda' new to flying. And I know nothing about GPS. Well I've never used or held one.
Can any one recomend a specific modle for me to use in flight so I can see road, street, & mountain names.
I see allot of different modles listed on here, but it's a little confusing to me.

I'm a closet wannabe nerd/geek.

Thank you everyone. (even if no one answers me)

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A closet wannabe geek/nerd. Just not smart nuff.

I used my Magellan Meridian

I used my Magellan Meridian on my trip to Las Vegas and back on US Air. It only worked when I had it near the window. It did show altitude and Speed. Looking at the map did make the trip go faster. I downloaded the tracks to my laptop and displayed them on a map. We flew right over my house on approach to Philadelphia.

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Paul Team Dougherty

SWA Flight

I've had my GPSmap 60CS loaded with the Topo maps turned on during one of my trips back to Michigan from Phoenix (the SWA mag says it is OK). It was cool! I've never been able to properly calibrate the altimeter so I don't trust those readings, but I did have some speed readings in the 530 range. I meant to check out the flight data on Flightaware.com to see if they correlated, but I never got around to it.

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--- GPSmap 60CS, Nuvi 650 & Nuvi 1490T---

Obtaining a signal

isaacjd wrote:

dude, you can't get a gps satellite signal through an airplane. i've taken numerous gps units on airplanes numerous times and never acquired a signal

It's too bad that you couldn't get a signal on the flights you took. As was said before, you need to be near (at) a window seat, but I've done it several times so I know with the right position and equipment, it can be done.

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--- GPSmap 60CS, Nuvi 650 & Nuvi 1490T---

if you sit in the pilots

if you sit in the pilots cockpit while flying it will work and show you moving as fast as you are. if you sit in the passengers cabin you won't acquire a signal. i've tried with many different garmin models and all work in the same way

re: No trouble on Southwest

brentrn wrote:

I used my nuvi 650 this past week on flights from BWI to Phoenix and back. Attendants saw me use and never said a thing. I was told by a friend later that the Southwest inflight magazine says that GPS are not permitted.

It is great fun seeing where you are over the USA. I had driven from Philly to Tucson this past summer and it was fun to retrace the route from the air.

Oh, oh! I've used my GPS on SWA flights as well, but I could have sworn that I read in their mag that it was OK. I better double check before doing it again. I agree that one needs to do anything reasonable that flight attendants asks of you, but I'd rather not put them in a position to have to ask at all.

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--- GPSmap 60CS, Nuvi 650 & Nuvi 1490T---

Don't have to be in the pilot's lap

isaacjd wrote:

if you sit in the pilots cockpit while flying it will work and show you moving as fast as you are. if you sit in the passengers cabin you won't acquire a signal. i've tried with many different garmin models and all work in the same way

I have used both the c530 and the nuvi 350 on airplanes.

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Charley - Nuvi 350 - Bel STI Driver - Cobra 29 w/ wilson 1000 - AIM: asianfire -

Were you on the space shuttle?

thehill wrote:

I've been able to use mine everytime and get a signal. In fact my usually reads 12ft accuracy. My speed on Sunday was 569 MPS at 41,771 feet. On the 717's I have even been able to walk down the isle holding it at window hight and not lost signal. On the widebody's one needs to be near the window. Of course, my unit has very good reception. Some units do not receive as well.

596MPS? Man I want to fly that airline! smile

Actually this has to be one of the most interesting forum topics I've ever read. Thanks to all who shared your screen shots online - if anyone else has any they've posted on the web please let us know!

GPS on airplane

I used my ETrex Venture CX on a flight from Charlotte to Newark a few months ago. I was in the middle seat, but the guy in the window seat was a friend and co-worker who didn't mind my putting it in the window to get a satellite lock. Even on its little screen it was very interesting to watch our progress and know our speed. When we got to Newark we had only general directions on how to get to our hotel (about 1/2 hour drive), but once I got the address, I was able to navigate (scored a few brownie points with the group, too).

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"Recalculating... drive 0.2 miles, then abandon vehicle." ------------- [ETrex Venture CX; Nüvi 40]

JetBlue

Because I couldn't get my unit to work with UScareways I guess I will stick with JetBlue, they have a GPS channel on their back of seat TVs.

don't give up; you are just using the wrong model.

isaacjd wrote:

if you sit in the pilots cockpit while flying it will work and show you moving as fast as you are. if you sit in the passengers cabin you won't acquire a signal. i've tried with many different garmin models and all work in the same way

Not to be critical but I my bet is whatever models you are using must not be the latest generation of GPS receivers of the SiRF’s high performance SiRF Star III chipset. This latest technology can lock in inside a plane. The earlier technology has issues with being able to lock in when on the ground but would lose it while air borne because they weren't rated at high speed acquisition. Maybe that is the problem with your hardware in that it is the old stuff. Why don't you post what exact model you are had trouble with.

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nüvi 680, nüvi 770, Garmin Mobile XT, etc...

Airplane

I did
Speed was 789Km
You have to setup to setup Off Road (Bird Fly)
It work, told me exactly at what time my arrival was going to be

Tracking....

I am flying from LAX to Toronto next week with my nuvi 350. Is there a way to create a track-log or something so I can track our flight path across the continent and open it in Google Earth/Mapsource?

If not possible, I can use my eTrex Vista, but I'd rather use my new nuvi.

Distance...

I just got my private pilot ticket back in September and played with my Meridian handheld GPS some during my training. Something I noticed is that it calculated distance in 3 dimensions...meaning if you were directly above an airport at 5000ft it showed a distance of one mile. (I figured that out while calling a position of 5 miles out when I was darn near on top of my destination.) Do the high end aviation units do that too or are they "smart" enough to overlay your position onto a 2D map?

I wanted to throw that one out there so that when folks using their units on commercial flights see an airport below them and it's showing 6 miles away...it might be calculating in 3D too. smile

Neat site btw, I just found it tonight after I bought my new Garmin.

John

20/20 that just aired

20/20 that just aired tonight had a bit on using cell phones on airplanes and found there is no proof that cell phones interfere with flights or that they are a risk to instrumentation on the aircraft. Wonder if that holds true for GPS equipment???

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Sandman --------Nuvi 370

Cell phones on planes...

Cell phones on planes don't interfere with anything. Period. Pre 9-11 it was just fine to leave your phone on or play with your GPS. Your GPS is a receiver...not a transmitter like your cell phone. The politicians, in my opinion, decided it was best to just not allow either because they could be potential "tools" for doing harm to a commercial flight.

The real problem is that cell phones don't work at high altitudes, but they’re working on that. Cell towers have directional antennas that point out...not up. I'm a private pilot and my cell phone will connect to my headset so I can use it while flying. If I'm low and slow, the phone works surprisingly well. I've called many a friend to tell them I was about to drop a sack of marbles out the window and for them to try and catch it. smile I've never been able to have a phone conversation above 5000ft or so above the ground that lasted for more than a few seconds though. I have been able to send and receive text messages from 12,000 above ground level.

Leave a phone on during a commercial flight and you'll usually land and find yourself with a dead battery because it’s been searching for a signal the entire time you’ve been aloft. I've done that more than once too. smile

John

Not so much...

Fishchili wrote:

Cell phones on planes don't interfere with anything. Period.

I beg to differ. They absolutely interfere with my ability to read a book or take a nap if the person using the cell phone is sitting near me having their conversation. I hope they approve it for text and email use, but voice will be a terrible change.

Oh… you meant interfere with navigation or avionics. Yeah, I believe you’re right about that.

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--- GPSmap 60CS, Nuvi 650 & Nuvi 1490T---

Confusion about Cell Phones on Planes

The FAA does not regulate the use of cell phones on planes. You may use them in emergencies.

The FCC regulates cell phones on planes because at altitude the phone ties up multiple cell towers (at least that is what I have read in the past).

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

With eTrex Legend

I tried this with an eTrex Legend some time ago on a flight from NY to Florida. Like MikeE I could get MPH and Alt. We were out over water just off the coast so I didn't try zoom.

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Garmin nuvi 750, GPSmap 76CS, eTrex Legend

Receivers

Fishchili wrote:

...Your GPS is a receiver...not a transmitter like your cell phone. ...

Most all electronic devices which use RF signals are, in themselves, transmitters as they radiate RF interference.

One of my jobs was to measure and reduce RF interference from military and commercial aircraft equipment. This equipment has low level radiation requirements they must meet while 'toy' devices don't. I suspect the commercial airlines restrict the 'toy' use during takeoffs and landings because they don't know the level of interference these devices produce.

I would rather be 'safe than sorry'; therefore, I will abide by their wishes and shut mine off when requested.

As a side note, we just returned from Phoenix to Cedar Rapids, IA. Had a stiff tail wind, cruised at 603 MPH with a max of 628 MPH.

RT

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