Ride to Eat - a riders guide to road food

 

Hello...

Yesterday I added a new POI File, using data from a website I run, http://ridetoeat.com. You can find the POI file at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/25173.

Though there will of course be significant overlap, it is different from other restaurant lists in that it is not about just good restaurants, nor about where to eat when traveling.

Instead it is about places to which it might be fun to plan a trip, no matter whether it's a Sunday ride, or an overnight trip. Motorcyclists call this a "ride to eat".

Some will be in cities or along the interstate, but many will be off the beaten path. There are gems here.

The website allows users to add new RTE spots, so the list will evolve. I will make a point of keeping the POI file here relatively up to date - but you can always visit the site and take advantage of the detailed ratings and comments for many of the listings.

I'm happy to answer any questions and grateful for feedback.

Steve Jones

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Looks like a great basis for

Looks like a great basis for a very interesting POI collection. I'll be keeping an eye on this one as it progresses. Thanks for sharing.

Ride to eat

Is this nationwide? I am in the SE.

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Zuma314

Ride To Eat POI

Thanks very much for this. I don't think there can be too many POI-files pointing to places to eat good food. It doesn't matter that there will be a lot of duplicates.

BTW I found one entry (Crosstown BBQ in Elgin, TX) that I am pretty sure has closed. We tried to visit one or two years ago. But on the site was another restaurant with another name, that did not look like they served any BBQ. We are really disappointed we missed out on this one because it had a good reputation for serving really good BBQ.

A lot of the other ones close to Austin, TX I can vouch for. Hopefully everybody knows about Lockhart, TX being the BBQ capital.

JCA

The whole quote...

Let's not forget that it's..."Ride to eat, eat to ride."

Now that I'm into my 42nd year of riding, I'm doing a lot more of the former, and a lot less of the latter! rolleyes

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Yep, it covers all the US

Quote:

Is this nationwide? I am in the SE.

It covers the US, and even has a few Canadian locations. And 1 in London England.

Lots of spots in the SE.

Steve Jones

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Ride To Eat

Great file. Having the state listed first lets you sort by your travel area. Thanks for the effort.

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errors

Texas Locations:

Angelo's BBQ - is in Fort Worth not Bedford
coordinates are ok

Cattlemen's Steakhouse - is also in Fort Worth not Bedford
The link and resulting Google map is not correct. The link, coordinates and address displays Riscky's Steakhouse which is 120 E Exchange Ave (Google says approx 124) and about 1100 feet east of Cattlemen's. The Cattlemen's address is 2458 N Main St with the coordinates of -97.349038,32.789301

Clark's Outpost - Tioga Tx - correct coordinates are -96.919280,33.466802

Kinkaid's _ Fort Worth - Not Naval Air Station/Jrb
coordinates good

Hard 8 BBq - Stephenville - correct coordinates are
-98.186783,32.212028

Koffee Kup - Hico - correct coordinates are
-98.0334,31.98292

Louie Mueller Barbecue - Taylor - Two entries for the same place (Barbecue vs BBQ would be most correct) coordinates good

Mary's Cafe - Strawn - more accurate coordinates
-98.498611,32.549780

Blue Bonnet Cafe - Marble Falls - ok

These are the only TX locations I have visited and can confirm.

[reverse the above Long/Lat to check in Google maps/earth]

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Great feedback, thanks!

lsmonop wrote:

Texas Locations:
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These are the only TX locations I have visited and can confirm.

Hey, thanks for the great detailed feedback. If I had a payroll, I'd put you on it!

All of your fixes have been applied here and at ridetoeat.com.

Steve Jones

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Ride to Eat Poi

Very Nice Job On The Poi File For Ride To eat But If You could It would Be A lot better If addresses & Phone Numbers were in the poi also Just a Thought

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Auggie SP2720 , SP C330, Nuvi 650, Nuvi 785T America Moves By Truck

Ride to Eat - a riders guide to road food

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to belittle your efforts, but the first two coordinates I looked up were about ten miles off. What got me checking the second set of coordinates was we have been going to Helena AR for about 20 years and I couldn't remember seeing Ray's Dairy Maid so I was wondering where it was. The coordinates actually showed it about 9.5 miles NW of West Helena, or about 2.5 miles west of Lexa AR. That prompted me to pick one at random to check in Wisconsin. The one listed for Alma WI was in a field about 10 miles east of Alma. I don't know how the coordinates were found but it kind of makes one wonder how many of the other ones are off.

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Added address and phone data

auggie wrote:

...If You could It would Be A lot better If addresses & Phone Numbers were in the poi

OK, I've added that data... I still start the field with the State and City, so people can sort on the field, but added the street address and phone data below.

Please take a look and let me know if that will work for you.

Steve Jones

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Blame it on Alton...

Don B wrote:

...the first two coordinates I looked up were about ten miles off.

Well, there goes a Saturday I'll never get back smile

The short answer is I think it's fixed... and if I am right only a couple of dozen records were affected. I've actually pulled them for now and will correct them and add them back in later.

The long answer is that, though my goal is to have all entries submitted by users, when I launched the site I had to seed it with a few sources I felt were on-topic. One of them was restaurants featured on the "Feasting On Asphalt" tv show.

Both of the entries you mentioned were from that set of data. So I went through each of them, and found a couple of dozen were bad. Looking out on the web where I got them originally, sure enough the data is bad.

It will take time to accurately get the right data, so for now I just removed the bad entries.

I've spot checked lots of other entries, and can't find any other pattern of bad ones. But feel free to check up on me... and I APPRECIATE your feedback.

Steve Jones

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Address & Phone Data

Fine Job Thanks Looks Real Good Steve

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Another correction

Tail 'O The Pup is a common destination for my group (not my favorite, but it makes for a great day ride).

However the co-ordinates on the site are incorrect.

As marked from my saved waypoints, the location is N44 17.923 W74 04.583 - the co-ordinates in the file are nowhere near where the restaurant is . . FYI Google always drags the point to the named space, even if the co-ordinates are nowhere near. And, as it happens, even Google has the restaurant in the wrong place.

Mine were checked using the satellite photo mode in Google Earth with the name left off the query and it puts your bike in the parking in front of the restaurant.

Interesting enough the restaurant appears as a native waypoint (though about 150 meters farther west than it really is) in Garmin's 2009 mapping and no other (I have every release from V 4.01 through 2010.20).

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Alton rides a beemer . . . .

. . . so what does he know?

I got the feeling that the show was completely unresearched and a horrible mix of bad places.

Great concept, bad execution.

Even the ones that Guy Fieri does on his D3 seem to be filled with losers . . . I've visited a few and have not been rewarded with the same positive energy that is imparted in the show - and the food has been less than great.

I've lost a lot of faith in that genre of show . . . .

SteveJonesMO wrote:

I had to seed it with a few sources I felt were on-topic. One of them was restaurants featured on the "Feasting On Asphalt" tv show.

I hope that it wasn't the place where they bought the pickled pig's foot?

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It;s the old joke about theory vs reality

bramfrank wrote:

. . . I've visited a few and have not been rewarded with the same positive energy that is imparted in the show - and the food has been less than great.

I've lost a lot of faith in that genre of show . . . .

It's just food porn... you don't expect it to actually BE like that do you? smile

Steve Jones

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Correcting your Pup

bramfrank wrote:

Tail 'O The Pup is a common destination for my group ... However the co-ordinates on the site are incorrect.

That look any better?

Steve Jones

PS: This one was manually entered originally, based on the really vague directions given in the Tail's own website. Thanks for the correction!

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Feasting on corrections

Don B wrote:

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to belittle your efforts, but the first two coordinates I looked up were about ten miles off.

Don:

OK, I've painstakingly researched the locations on the couple of dozen "Feasting on Asphalt" locations that had bad data... including the two you mentioned... and have uploaded a new file with those entries included with corrected data.

Please let me know if that looks right to you... and thanks again for the feedback.

Steve Jones

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Lots of updates

Just wanted to drop a note to say that due in large measure to the detailed feedback I've gotten from POI Factory users, I've made several corrections and additions to the RTE data in the last couple of weeks.

So anyone who has downloaded it should probably refresh at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/25173.

As always, feedback is greatly appreciated.

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Interesting POI

I plan on using this POI when I travel I-40 from California to Arkansas in December

Indeed

SteveJonesMO wrote:
bramfrank wrote:

Tail 'O The Pup is a common destination for my group ... However the co-ordinates on the site are incorrect.

That look any better?

Steve Jones

PS: This one was manually entered originally, based on the really vague directions given in the Tail's own website. Thanks for the correction!

I checked. It is . . . thanks

I have another one I want to add in Stowe, VT (A great burger/fry stand), but I can't find the name (and it does have a name) and can't make out the sign in Google Earth's street view . . . gotta check with a specific friend and get back to you.

Keep up the good work.

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Of course it's porn

SteveJonesMO wrote:
bramfrank wrote:

. . . I've visited a few and have not been rewarded with the same positive energy that is imparted in the show - and the food has been less than great.

I've lost a lot of faith in that genre of show . . . .

It's just food porn... you don't expect it to actually BE like that do you? smile

Steve Jones

These shows ARE supposed to be guides of a sort - unlike porn, I DO expect the reality to at least be a pale reflection of the fiction.

A story (true)

Many years ago (about 25) I was in New Orleans for a trade show and we went out for dinner to a Creole restaurant called Mosca's.

Very unpretentious - it was set off the side of the highway in a wooded area, it was an unpainted barn-like structure with an unpaved dirt parking lot and inside were metal chairs and small tables. The menu was very limited and they served huge platters of creole baked garlic chicken, huge platters of garlic sausages, hugh platters of garlic shrinp, garlic crawdads, prepared with potatoes on the platter (roasted) all swimming in sizzling hot oil with cloves of Garlic - who cares that we had to meet clients and our pores would smell like garlic for a month? This stuff was GREAT.

The also served a short list of other most amazing creole food and, for those who didn't like garlic, I think they may have had something - but perhaps not. I don't recall. It wasn't why we were there.

The prices were a joke - the parking lot was filled with dirty, battered pickup trucks - and not the food kind of batter, either. If your jeans were sort-of clean, you were probably over dressed.

I first went with a gang of people and we feasted on a huge amount of food - and when it was time to pay the check no one in our group had enough cash (aven if it wasn't very expensive) and the place (naturally) did not accept credit cards - so while one person drove back to NO to get cash from an ATM (which were not as common then as they are now) we all sat around, schmoozing with the staff and played poker with one of them(yes).

The place became an instant favorite of mine - every year, when I passed therough Louisiana I would make the pilgrimage - having been there the first time my rental car just knew how to get back . . . I did not need a navigator (not that they existed for us regular folks).

The experience was repeated annually.

One year I was there with a co-worker/friend who had never been to that city and, of course my excitement about returning to my favorite haunt made him salivate in anticipation - he'd heard me rave about the place.

Alas, when we got to the place, something had changed. There was a lighted sign. The parking lot was paved. The lot was lit up. It was filled to the brim with shiny luxury cars - the place could have been a Mercedes dealership!! The building had been painted and when we went inside, the interior had been redone - they even had tablecloths!!!!

Alas, the amazing menu was no more. The food had fancy names and the huge platters of food, with their full garlic cloves sizzling in oil were replaced with (actually decent) chicken and fish and meat dishes (and salads and such). More Italian than Creole, I must say. They even had a menu instead of the old sign board!!

And, of course they now took cards and charged a fortune for this generic food they started selling.

You see, someone had blabbed and the place got rated by Zagats. So I've never been back (and it's probably been 10 years). Having had my memory goop poked, I went out and checked and they're still in business. They have a web site and while the menu is perhaps not what I'd call 'pretentious' and it is limited in scope, but it ain't what it used to be.

Now, Mosca's, before the change - THAT was food porn.

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New CSV, GPX and KML files

The CSV & GPX files here have been updated today, and ridetoeat.com/rte/map has been updated to include KML files for each state.

Enjoy!

Cheers,

Steve Jones

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A new entry for the POI file

"Burgers on a Board" in Stowe, VT,
GPS Co-ordinates for the parking lot are 44.47313N 72.71013W

I, for one cannot find ANY reference to them anywhere on the web - no phone number, nothing. But you can almost make out their sign on Google maps if you wander around that area.

Makes a very pleasant alternative to The Shed and the other trendy Stowe RTE destinations if you are riding through Smuggler's Notch.

Great, made to order burgers and 4 or 5 different kinds of fries. You order inside and then sit outside eating, so I'd wager this place is seasonal.

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Looks Good

Corrections look good Steve

I happened to visit a Kincaid's yesterday for lunch, they have another location in Weatherford that's not even on their website yet.

There are however 3 additional locations on their website. The one you have on your website is in fact the original location.

kincaidshamburgers.com‎

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Burgers in Vermont

bramfrank wrote:

"Burgers on a Board" in Stowe, VT...

Sounds delicious - thanks! VT is one of the few states I've never visited on two wheels. There's another thing I have to do when I correct that oversight.

Anyway, can I talk you into going to http://ridetoeat.com/rte/add and adding it? The starving masses will thank you.

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Chains

lsmonop wrote:

I happened to visit a Kincaid's yesterday for lunch, they have another location in Weatherford that's not even on their website yet.

There are however 3 additional locations on their website. The one you have on your website is in fact the original location.

Thanks for the info. What I do with places that have more than 1 location is stick with 1 entry, but put something about their other locations in the comments section. A mention of their other 4 locations will be in my next update.

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Done

You now have 1 entry for Ontario and two in Vermont to add to the list.

What does it say that the best thing I can say about a stop is that the waitresses are young and cute?

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comment

Hey Steve,
I left a comment on your site about perhaps listing the cities (within the states of course) alphabetically instead of the eatery.

I also need to make a post here to keep my windmill spinning lol, you may get additional feedback from here as well.

Keep up the good work.

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Sorting by City

Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully soon it will allow user controlled sorting and filtering. Just need to find the time...

Steve Jones

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Streets and Trips .est files

FYI, any Streets and Trips users may be interested in some updates and enhancements I have made to the Ride To Eat .est files you can find at http://ridetoeat.com/rte/downloads. There are versions for 2007, and 2010.

If you have anything earlier than 2010 and you like to include POI lists in your S&T files, I strongly recommend you upgrade to 2010. It has fantastic new features for POI management.

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(links fixed)

Argh. The links in the above page were broken. Fixed now. Sorry.

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Monument Cafe, Georgetown, TX

The coordinates for this POI points to their old location. My wife and I found the new location by chance because we continued down the road to the Georgetown city center. Just as we were going to turn around as we had passed the center we saw the restaurant at the new location. According to their menu they moved in November 2008.

So here is the new data:

-97.677041, 30.638471 (Points to entrance to parking)

500 S. Austin Ave
Georgetown, TX 78627
512-930-9586

Sun-Thu: 7 AM - 9 PM
Fri-Sat: 7 AM - 10 PM

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Tried to visit the site today and it wouldn't load. Is it still active? Or is it a transient problem?

I was hoping to find a gpx or gdb file there rather than the csv we have here.

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