4 weeks, 10,000 traffic tickets

 
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4 weeks, 10,000 traffic tickets

HEATH, Ohio -- City officials say they were shocked by the number of violations recorded during the first month of traffic-camera enforcement and decided to make it cheaper to protest multiple tickets.

More than 10,000 violations had been recorded by Heath traffic cameras through Tuesday. At $100 apiece, that would net the city a little more than $830,000 after paying the vendor, Redflex, its share.

In four weeks, the cameras will have generated an amount equivalent to roughly 12 percent of the Licking County community's annual budget -- and a lot of anger.

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http://dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/08/...

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In Europe it is called

In Europe it is called socialism
In America it is called welfare
Obama calls it change

Redlight camera companies call it safety

It's a Small World After All...

nansoutey wrote:

...that attitude of 'i have nothing to hide' or 'if you abide by the law' then you have nothing to worry about.. you are totally missing the concept of Liberty and freedom in this country...

...you can be one of the first to have the cameras installed thruout your house.

I try not to comment on the direction society is going...people can do whatever they want. I try to focus on the velocity.

It appears to me: with a camera on ever street corner, 10's of millions voluntarily up-loading personal photos and video to Facebook and MySpace, a cell phone in every pocket - that tracks the users movements, Google archiving our IP address and every search request, blogs and twitter to express our every thought - when we think it, credit cards to record all our purchase choices, warrantless wire taping, and aggragate data mining...

It is not that people have nothing to hide...They have nothing LEFT to hide.

Is it really such a stretch from that mentioned above (which we all do voluntarily) to voluntarily allowing a camera watch you - watch TV - in your living room? (Heck, your cable company already knows which channel you're watching.) What's the big deal? You might not like the idea of being on video in your home...But your kids will likely have no problem with it.

And the world really does belong to them after all.

If sitting on the couch and watching TV (the most common home activity) "in private" is the last baracade of Freedom in the U.S.; then I regret to report to you...the war for "freedom" was lost long ago.

ONLY $100 bucks!

Aw geeze, got one the other month here in sunny CA for $480. (not including traffic school)

Count your blessings OHIA

Jay

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WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE! IN GOD WE TRUST

California Driving

If you own a car in Cali, good luck. Everything driving related has skyrocketed including registration fees. Don't be surprised if redlight camera "safety" fees increase also.

In Europe it is called

TnPapa wrote:

In Europe it is called socialism
In America it is called welfare
Obama calls it change

Redlight camera companies call it safety

In Europe it is called socialism (I don't live there, don't care)
In America it is called welfare (Not on Welfare, should cut it off)
Obama calls it change (Don't look like he's going to get it done)

Redlight camera companies call it safety (Police call it the Law)

So drive safely smile

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Using Android Based GPS.The above post and my sig reflects my own opinions, expressed for the purpose of informing or inspiring, not commanding. Naturally, you are free to reject or embrace whatever you read.

right on!

onestep wrote:
dave817 wrote:

It's drivers like you that are selfishly following some misguided principle that affect other more aggressive drivers to challenge you to a traffic altercation. Follow the rules, but cooperate with society and you will stay under the radar of OCD drivers too. I think your behavior is unacceptible.

Dear Redflex/Cash strapped communities I would like to suggest you now install anti-social offender cameras to catch and fine people who will not turn right on a red and cause traffic congesstion. Please for the sake of the children think of the revenue and lower taxes you can leave for future generations.

Onestep, you have my vote on your proposal! haha

and they say its not about

and they say its not about generating money!

No way

This is a bad way to look at it. When laws are set up to maximize profits, they are bad laws and need to be changed. The city is a little less safe now because these cameras actually decrease safety. Thankfully, the good citizens of Heath have put a petition on the ballot to get rid of these thieving cameras. Now we just have to pray that the thieves don't try to interfere with the voting.

yeah

TnPapa wrote:

In Europe it is called socialism
In America it is called welfare
Obama calls it change

Redlight camera companies call it safety

correction center is called jail, or the other way.

drive thru

spider_elliott wrote:

I've lived in a small town, and driven through many. Never got a speeding ticket in any of those.

During a citizen's academy in my small town, the police chief said that his department never sets up a stationary speed trap. The uniformed officers patrol the town, and check for speeders as part of their tasks. He claimed his resources are used better in patrol than in a stationary speed trap.

Come to think of it, the only place I've gotten a ticked from a speed trap was in metro Denver and Austin, TX. Everywhere else had been by a cruising patrol.

I understand the way they do are different from places to place, the fundamental issue is, the offense is there. In either cases, the case can be appealed at court.
I feel I prefer "drive thru" to "how can I help u". We are in a hurry, so we are speeding, right?

Good laws bad laws

There are good laws and there are bad laws and some times politicians pass both. Sometimes laws about safety are a bit zealous.
You know electronic checking some times are tweaked for the benefit of the county and be in the spirit of the law bad or good, but sometimes safety is trampled.

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Gps! ask where to go and get there! Best of all, what we need is to have accurate pois to reach all destinations

Much more than technology and taxes...

This is a huge issue, not just about traffic laws and technology used to enforce these laws, but about the natural right of an individual to exercise free will and to hold a reasonable expectation of privacy. Does the fact that some individuals trade personal aspects of their lives for the convenience of technology mean that they forfeit their expectation of privacy? Are these people fully aware of the implications, one being the near permanence of digital data? Does their exchange imply fully informed consent?

I personally reject the notion that the advance of science will lead inexorably to the total loss of the individual expectation of privacy and the massive erosion of free choice. Despite the expected trajectory of developments in science, the people have a visceral reaction to the technologies of control whether these influences are exhibited by government or by corporations or by their mutual consortium. Look, for instance, where the public stands on behavioral tracking through website cookies: Survey: US residents don't want targeted ads -- http://www.itworld.com/government/79438/survey-us-residents-....

Last I checked the U.S. Constitution was the supreme law of the land. With this in mind, we can take heed of the words of Justice Brandeis in his dissenting opinion in Olmstead v United States when he said:

“The protection guaranteed by the Amendments [the Fourth and Fifth] is much broader in scope [than the protection of property]. The makers of our Constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness. They recognized the significance of man's spiritual nature, of his feelings and of his intellect. They knew that only a part of the pain, pleasure and satisfactions of life are to be found in material things. They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the Government, the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men. To protect that right, every unjustifiable intrusion by the Government upon the privacy of the individual, whatever the means employed, must be deemed a violation of the Fourth Amendment. And the use, as evidence in a criminal proceeding, of facts ascertained by such intrusion must be deemed a violation of the Fifth”
(Olmstead v United States (277 US 438 [1928] http://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/decisions/2009/may09/53opn09.... [check out this reference, it includes mention of GPS]

With the increasing use of data mining by corporations and by government and the knowledge that there have been a number of prominent security breaches involving consumer databases, I do not trust these entities to keep this information secure if left to their own devices. Couple that with the fact that sometimes a company which has suffered a breach doesn’t even notify its customers. If you’ve ever been a victim of identity theft then you should be concerned about corporate and government privacy practices.

And now, there are two revelations that should give you further pause: 1) Researchers have shown that you can be uniquely identified using only three pieces of information: zip code, gender, and birth date. This information can be cross-indexed with other data which includes your name and one of the three shared pieces of information to identify you. And, 2) Researchers have given proof of concept that an individual’s Social Security number can be guessed from publicly available information including simply knowing a person’s birth date.

"Anonymized" data really isn't—and here's why not
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/09/your-secrets...

Researchers: Social Security Numbers Can Be Guessed http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07...

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