Photo radar: What you need to know in Quebec.
Some exerpts from a news report from Montreal.
Link at the bottom for more.
Since Tuesday, there are 15 photo radar and red-light cameras in Quebec, six of them in the Montreal region.
How do they work?
Nicole Ste. Marie, spokesperson for Transport Québec, explains the procedures:
How do I know the cameras are there?
There are signs before the camera locations warning about speed or red lights.
Explain the procedure - from snapping the photo to getting the ticket in the mail.
As a car passes through the designated site, either speeding or running a red, two photos are taken of the front and rear of the car showing the plate.
Transport Quebec has a site with an animated video about the ticket process - in French only. Check out www.objectifsecurite.gouv.qc.ca/fr/comment/index.asp
How much over the speed limit do I have to be going to trigger the camera?
ONE KILOMETER PER HOUR over the speed limit will activate the camera. All cases will be viewed by Sûrété du Quebec officers to decide if a ticket will be issued.
Will I get demerit points?
No, not at this point in the trials for the project. Demerit points cannot be issued if the driver's identity is in question.
If I'm driving a rental car, will the police bother to track me down?
Yes, they will go to the rental company to get your name and address off the contract and you will be mailed a ticket.
Tickets will be warnings for the first three months until Aug. 19. How long will this pilot project be in existence?
The contract signed with CGI, the company that installs and maintains the machines, was for $6.6 million.
What's the fine for running a red? What's the fine for speeding?
The costs are the same as if a police officer caught you. Sailing through a red light will set you back $154. Speeding fines can go as high as $1,255.
That sucks. I don't have cruise control and my spedometer is analog. It's a rough guestimate on how fast I'm going.
Time to glaze the plates.
All of these locations were added to this week's red light and speed camera updates.
Where will I find a link to the red light and speed camera updates for Quebec?
When you take the error in your speedometer and the error in their measurement into account, there is no way they can say you are 1 Kph (0.625mph) over the limit is beyond a reasonable doubt.
Just another dishonest way to make money!!!
Maybe you'll get a tick at +1kph. As I read it though, a photo is taken, but a ticket might not be issued. Surely there's a speed beyond the +1 that is a threshold for issuing a ticket.
are these radar/laser based or sensor based for speed?
What is the speed allowed over the limit elsewhere? In Quebec, even if they say that it takes a pic over 1kmh, it seems it does only over 5kmh.. which is only 2 mph roughly over the limit...
Manitoba is 10 Km/H (6.2 MPH)
In Quebec it is normally 12 KPH at 100/KPH and 6 KPH at 50/KPH
oh man thanks for the heads up headin to quebec this week gotta avoid tickets at all cost lol
And what do they do with the ticket if you're a visitor from another country.. fly over and haul you into court?
Drive 5mph under the speed limit and never get a speeding ticket!
Sadly, New York has compacts with both Ontario and Quebec. Unlike a New Yorker getting a ticket in Connecticut, Pennsylvania or a myriad of other states, a ticket issued in those two provinces will show up on your record, you will get points and your insurance will go up. The reverse applies to Ontario and Quebec residents. I feel for the Ontarian's I often see pulled over around Niagara Falls on I-190. They will get points on their license for that New York ticket. They cruise down the QEW at 120kph, cross into New York and forget where they are. The New York State Police come out and remind them the limit is 55MPH until you get to Grand Isle where it is 65MPH.
If ever you happen to go back one day and you get pulled over again or are involved in an accident or call the police because some thug stole your wallet, can you guess with who and where you'll be sleeping that night or week
I think most places will suspend your right (or "privilege") to drive in that jurisdiction until the fines and any accumulated interest are paid.
sounds like a random tax to me. A least with the lotto, you get a 1:16M chance of winning while you are paying your tax, lol.
Thanks for the Heads Up.
Been wanting to visit Canada for a long time. Will be sure to keep the GPSr tuned in while in the area.
I would estimate it is better to watch your speed on the GPSr than on your speedometer, then - just to be safe - keep it a slight bit under.
Have a look at this thread to see how much revenue the cameras generated in the first six months in Quebec.
I passed through several of these over the last 7 days, was under the limit, and all cars went through much faster than myself and imho faster than the speed limit.
No question there was a Vitesse sign with an icon of a camera.
Maybe there have been court rulings about them?
haha 9 y.o. thread
also I found this grid which would have been about the same time as this thread--4 km/h over is a $15 fine on a 70 km/h zone.
MarcelRentech mentioned that there are signs before the camera locations. Are the signs in French only? If so, what is the text on the sign?
MarcelRentech a mentionné qu'il y avait des panneaux devant les emplacements des caméras. Les panneaux sont-ils en français seulement? Si oui, quel est le texte sur le panneau?
Gracieuseté de Google Translate!
The sign is only in French. The only word on it is "Vitesse."
Then, there is an icon of a camera.
I gotta tell you, this is the place to buy ice hockey skates for a toddler. Go ahead, look on the website of the world's richest man, nothing but junk and expensive. This one size 8-9, that one 10-13--talk about expensive one size fits several? HUH? lol
In Québec I could not believe my eyes, Vic, CCM, Bauer, sizes 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, for toddlers!!! How much? $30 USD. unbelievable. Got my boy some size 12's!
I would defy anyone to be able to drive within 1 Kph (1/2 Mph) at any given time. Driving in Quebec is fun, there are absolutely no signs on roads or highways in English !
When I read this post almost 9 years ago, I remember wondering why set the threshold just 1 KPH over the limit? As stated by others, few vehicle speedometers are that accurate and there is likely some compounding error in the camera system.
If every photo is reviewed by law enforcement and tickets issued only for violations over 5 KPH, that is a lot of wasted work. Yes, 1 - 4 KPH violations can be electronically eliminated but the question remains, why take the photo in the first place?
I wonder what changes (if any) have been made to the law since this was first posted.
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