Work Zone Speed Cams Are Now a Reality in PA.

 

Senate bill 172 passed the house & senate. It's now on the way to the governors desk who has indicated he will sign it.

The new law makes it an offense for any vehicle to travel more than 11 mph over the posted work zone speed limit. First offenders receive a written warning. A second offense will cost $75. A third will get you a $150 fine. The revenue generated will go into a fund to further support highway safety.

I'm not normally a fan of "big brother" watching over me but I make an exception in this case. It's a fact that motorists travel too fast in work zones in this state and there have been many incidents of highway workers being killed or injured. Hopefully, the new law will have a positive impact on these statistics.

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I posted this in another thread on the subject

The Bill, SB 172 started out as a bill for work zones throughout Pennsylvania specifically. Roosevelt Blvd. [in Philadelphia] was added on during the legislative process as a "pilot" program. [11 cams slated for use] The bill passed both the House and Senate and awaits the Governors signature which he said he would give.

The first violation will be a warning.

The second violation will be $75.

Each violation after will be $150.

The registered owner of the vehicle will get the ticket. If they can prove they were not driving the vehicle at the time of the violation the ticket will be revoked. Any/all violations are a no point violation.

For the entire final text of the bill see here:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck....

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Sorry

soberbyker wrote:

I posted this in another thread on the subject

The Bill, SB 172 started out as a bill for work zones throughout Pennsylvania specifically. Roosevelt Blvd. [in Philadelphia] was added on during the legislative process as a "pilot" program. [11 cams slated for use] The bill passed both the House and Senate and awaits the Governors signature which he said he would give.

The first violation will be a warning.

The second violation will be $75.

Each violation after will be $150.

The registered owner of the vehicle will get the ticket. If they can prove they were not driving the vehicle at the time of the violation the ticket will be revoked. Any/all violations are a no point violation.

For the entire final text of the bill see here:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck....

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Sorry to have repeated your post soberbyker. I should have made reference to it. I only posted to serve as a warning since the bill will likely become law this week.

no need ...

... to apologize, I was just adding to your thread as well.

bdhsfz6 wrote:

Sorry to have repeated your post soberbyker. I should have made reference to it. I only posted to serve as a warning since the bill will likely become law this week.

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The PA Governor signed the

The PA Governor signed the bill on Oct. 6, 2018, read the bill for details but speed cameras are now legal in PA.

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There they go again.

There they go again.

use some care with these cameras

soberbyker wrote:

The PA Governor signed the bill on Oct. 6, 2018, read the bill for details but speed cameras are now legal in PA.

The wording on the actual bill states they will only be used when road work is in progress. Pennsylvania often has the cones well in advance of the actual work site, sometimes a 1/2 mile or more. It remains to be seen if there is something to inform you that actual work is in progress and the cameras are therefore active.

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John from PA

I am against most of these but....

in school zones and work zones I support use of them. As I drive everyday for work I can't believe some of the people driving even have a license based on their actions or lack thereof. In Washington the owner of the vehicle gets the ticket and must pay. To me if you don't know who's driving your vehicle(s) that sounds a little irresponsible to begin with. No points on your license but I can't believe insurance companies don't try to gain access to plate #.

They also have ...

John from PA wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

The PA Governor signed the bill on Oct. 6, 2018, read the bill for details but speed cameras are now legal in PA.

The wording on the actual bill states they will only be used when road work is in progress. Pennsylvania often has the cones well in advance of the actual work site, sometimes a 1/2 mile or more. It remains to be seen if there is something to inform you that actual work is in progress and the cameras are therefore active.

PA also has a sign (Active Work Zone) with a flashing white light when the zone is supposedly active, I've seen them many a time on when no one is working in the zone.

FWIW, I work in heavy highway construction, the very places where the signs and cameras are/would be deployed and I can tell you, as much as I am against these things, they are needed. Try driving a loaded dump truck from behind a barrier in the zone into the hammer lane of the highway and you'd see why, people drive 20 to 30 mph over the normal limit let alone the lower work zone limit.

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imho

traffic control takes some cooperation and common sense. When people run red lights then turn around and say they got busted and the camera was wrong and it was a money grab, what chance is there to simply get people to act right and slow down when there are people working, and proceed normally when they are not?

The worst joke is when a construction co. or tree trimming co. controls traffic. First of all, the person is usually not paying attention. Secondly, they seem to be on the low end of the totem pole, and don't care about what they are doing. This leads to angry motorists who now and again simply go, despite the flagman saying stop. What authority does that person really have I guess.

To keep things in context, PA is a place where people are unable to merge, be it 476, 76, Ben Franklin inbound, or properly do fifo at a 4 way. It's truly bizarre. And then people turn from behind a stop line, and stop on green, and wait. When drivers are such, technology really cannot solve the issues.

Thanks....

This is useful information.

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Fake construction zones

Does that include all the fake construction zones I see?

I travel multiple times a year by car, covering as many as 20 states, and fully 1/3 or more of the construction zones I come across, with lowered speed limits have no evidence of construction taking place. The locals know and ignore the lowered speed limits and I have to careful to not be run over as I slow down as much as I safely can.

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...you should live a bit further South

Sadly, in Maryland they are sneaky as hell about it. For the near forever time it took for the I-95 area North and South of Baltimore saw the shifting mobile work area cams constantly sliding up and down the work zones. With the tight clearances at some of the chicanes, it results in folsk slamming on their brakes at the late sight of the cameras/vehicles and potentially causes even more potential safety issues.

Maryland is camera happy, I think they outlawed many fo them in VA, so there's remnants of what was, but that's one thing the DMV doesn't have to worry about. DC is also pretty bad and is increasing their count around the city, but they install permanent cameras which are easily trackable.

Governor signed

Gov. Tom Wolf signed the bill into law Friday.

"Violations will not be subject to driving points or merit rating for insurance purposes," said a statement from Wolf's office.

Oct. 19

GPS_Rider wrote:

Gov. Tom Wolf signed the bill into law Friday.

"Violations will not be subject to driving points or merit rating for insurance purposes," said a statement from Wolf's office.

FYI

The history of this bill:

Signed in Senate, Oct. 2, 2018
Signed in House, Oct. 9, 2018
Presented to the Governor, Oct. 9, 2018
Approved by the Governor, Oct. 19, 2018 (which was a Friday)

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billInfo/bill_history.c...

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While...

I'm not normally a fan of traffic cameras, Pennsylvania has one of the highest fatality rates in the nation for highway workers. IMO, these work zone cameras are a reasonable attempt to bring down the number of injuries.
These guys are out there working to make the highways better for all of us. I think they deserve a break. If this new law helps, I'm all for it.

In SC ...

I remember arriving to SC in 2005 and seeing the work zone signs there ... "$200 and 30 days" ... well, it was some number of mandatory days in jail ... they were SERIOUS and everyone went the speed limit. I thought it was fine.

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