The reason NuMaps isn't a real good deal, just buy updates every other year

 

Garmin International has released their second set of the quarterly maps under the nuMaps Lifetime program moniker.

And I as I have been saying all along Garmin doesn't get the newest map data available. and should have called it's latest release what it actually is 2009.2, instead it gets named "CityNavigator NT 2010".
Here is the real crazy part, and should Pi*s you off because CNNT 2010.X maps are actually the Navteq Q4/2008 maps. So if you still don't see your new year old house, now you know why.

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Couldn't disagree more !

I purchased the Lifetime updates. So far I have received 2 updates for my Nuvi 260 (newer version)
and love the unit. Expect that I will get maybe 4-5 (or more) updates in the future. That would get my average cost per update to under $20 per update.
I have noted a number of changes in these two version updates. If I keep the Nuvi 260 for another 2 years it would get cost down to $12/update. Seems rather inexpensive to me !

Works for me !

One users opinion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NuMaps Updates

Hi BobDee,

Thanks for your comments.

The way I see it is.... even if you update every other year it's going to cost you somewhere around $70 to do the update. So two updates will run you $140.

I was able to buy the lifetime updates card(s) for $95. I can update every other year, every year or several times per year if I so desire as long as Garmin keeps pushing out the maps.

No one has maps which are truly "current". I estimate they are all two years behind. But what is kept more current are the POI's as part of each update.

I know many people have complained that they see nothing new in their area.... but for sure there is something new in other areas.

I didn't really buy my GPS for "my" area since I already know my way around and what new roads and deveopments are being built. I bought it for when I travel. I am guessing that something is updated on the maps somewhere when I travel.

So for the extra $25 it costs me to buy the Lifetime card, it was well worth it to me.

It's strictly my opinion and the way I view it, and others disagree.... but $25 to me was a small price to pay for the difference. I am confident my GPS unit will last 2-4 years.

Regards, Tim

Disagreeing doesn't make you right though

and if you keep ir for two more years you will finally be using 2010 maps..
I guess if having 2010 maps in 2012 makes you happy then your right, it doesn't really cost that much to be out of date. rolleyes

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Disagreeing doesn't make you right though

And if you keep it for two more years you will finally be using 2010 maps..
I guess if having 2010 maps in 2012 makes you happy then your right, it doesn't really cost that much to be out of date. rolleyes

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Either way

Either way you'll have 2010 maps in 2012

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NuMaps updates

BobDee wrote:

And if you keep it for two more years you will finally be using 2010 maps..
I guess if having 2010 maps in 2012 makes you happy then your right, it doesn't really cost that much to be out of date. rolleyes

BobDee,

You are right, it does not make me right to disagree with you any more than it makes you right to state your opinion. I did not say I was right anyway.... I said it's my opinion... just as the original post was your opinion.

No... it absolutely doesn't make me at all happy to use maps which are two years out of date.

But if I only update every other year, I'd be using maps that are 3-4 years out of date instead of 2 years out of date.

And, as I said, it's the same situation for all the other GPS vendors too. All of their maps are out of date and not in real time.

It's the nature of the beast the way the system is set up to gather updates and then verify them... the process is very slow.

If they ever come up with the system that updates the maps with a GPS transmission as soon as it's reported I'd be onboard to buy it. But from a liability viewpoit, it has to be verified by the company prior to publication.

I remember watching a TV special about how Garmin send people out on the road with some special equipment to track the roadways and verify POI's and new Developments...... it seems it would be a very expensive proposition to put many teams on the road to do this work. The maps would just be way too expensive to buy.

I don't love it, but it's the best we have right now.

BTW... did you ever buy any of those paper maps at the truck stops and Gas stations? They are just as out of date as the modenr GPS maps, if not more.

And your happy with that?

And a couple other GPSr's That I own will have 2012 maps. the whole point, when the manufacture isn't owned in part by the map company they get what they get from them. And you from Garmin.

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Save the money and buy a New unit every two years

pratzert wrote:

Hi BobDee,

Thanks for your comments.

The way I see it is.... even if you update every other year it's going to cost you somewhere around $70 to do the update. So two updates will run you $140.

Tim,
So then you give that GPS to your Neighbor and bring them in to the current century then buy a new one for yourself with new maps. After all the bottom is falling out of this technology.

OBTW

Garmin doesn't send anyone out on the road, all maps are Navteq Maps, at least until 2015.

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSBNG3842720071120

Bob

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No I'm not happy with that

But it's all we have.... so you take what is available or don't take it at all.

I opted to take what was available.

Save the money and buy a new unit every two years

And then I'd STILL have a unit with maps that are 2 years old.

It doesn't even come close to a break even point. I don't buy the cheapest GPS unit, I buy more top end.... so it doesn't make financial sense to buy a new unit every two years.

Bob Said QUOTE "OBTW

Garmin doesn't send anyone out on the road, all maps are Navteq Maps, at least until 2015." :UNQUOTE

Garmin take the liability regardless of who supplies the technology to Garmin. Just like General Motors assumes the product libility if the steering wheel falls off... not the steering wheel manufacturer. Garmin is the ultimate provider of the product. Of course, anyone can sue anyone at any time for anything.... But it will be Garmin who will be the main target if someone sues because the maps are deemed inadequate.

Seriously?

Garmin is selling 1 & 1/2 year old maps marketed as current maps? Does Navteq offer newer maps to other GPS manufacturers, or are most behind like this?

BobDee wrote:

Garmin International has released their second set of the quarterly maps under the nuMaps Lifetime program moniker.

And I as I have been saying all along Garmin doesn't get the newest map data available. and should have called it's latest release what it actually is 2009.2, instead it gets named "CityNavigator NT 2010".
Here is the real crazy part, and should Pi*s you off because CNNT 2010.X maps are actually the Navteq Q4/2008 maps. So if you still don't see your new year old house, now you know why.

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Seriously

The maps that Garmin has on their units "ARE" the most current maps. There a few manufacturers who get maps supplied by other map suppliers, but as a whole, all the maps are about the same. You will find some things on one maps but not on another and vice versa. It is a matter of opinion on who has the "best" maps. A lot apparently has to do with your location or where you travel.

All of the GPS manufacture market their units with "current" maps because they have the most "current" maps available to them.

The information on those maps is not the most current information or 'real time"information.

As is the case of school testbooks. Most of the textbooks are the most "current" textbooks available, but they do not always contain the most current information.

The maps that are on the Garmin units are as up to date as the maps on most other GPS manufacturers.

What people complain about is that roads that were built a year (or two) ago often do not appear on those maps.

With the way mapping, verifications, and the manufacturing process is done, it's nearly impossible to offer a GPS units with real time maps on it that most people can afford.

Garmin loads the most current maps available to them at the time the unit is manufactured. If that unit is not sold until after the next batch of updated maps comes out, the purchaser is allowed to get the most up to date maps available to Garmin at that time for free.

If this is the case, the naming convention is innacurate

In regards to your text book analogy, it's like a publisher is marketing a 2010 edition of a book with data ending in 2008. One would think by the edition title that it would be more up to date. I mean not even any 2009 data in a 2010 edition? I certainly understand your point though.

pratzert wrote:

The maps that Garmin has on their units "ARE" the most current maps.

The information on those maps is not the most current information or 'real time"information.

As is the case of school testbooks. Most of the textbooks are the most "current" textbooks available, but they do not always contain the most current information.

The maps that are on the Garmin units are as up to date as the maps on most other GPS manufacturers.

What people complain about is that roads that were built a year (or two) ago often do not appear on those maps.

With the way mapping, verifications, and the manufacturing process is done, it's nearly impossible to offer a GPS units with real time maps on it that most people can afford.

Garmin loads the most current maps available to them at the time the unit is manufactured. If that unit is not sold until after the next batch of updated maps comes out, the purchaser is allowed to get the most up to date maps available to Garmin at that time for free.

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Out-of-date maps

Unfortunately, with the race to the bottom in cutting costs in GPS production as GPSs become everyday, throwaway-priced items, relative to five years ago, anyway, the incentive to companies like Garmin to keep their map releases up to date is also likely to take a hit.

You'd think the GPS makers would see updated-map sales as the razor blades to the cartridges sold as a loss-leader, but they don't seem to. The fact that you see new maps out there with things that changed two and three years before the date on the product tells you that it's not a priority to the company to get their maps as up-to-date as possible. And if it's not a priority for them, buying updates or a "lifetime" subscription is not a good value for me, either.

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I am hoping that the mapping

I am hoping that the mapping update situation is market driven, and if the market wants/demands better updating of the maps, I hope the map suppliers get onboard.

I would also expect some pressure to come from the GPS manufactures too..... they want to sell more GPS units, and if the consumer becomes disenchanted with the GPS unit because the maps are "old" then it's an argurement to make maps which are more up to date.

I would not buy a lifetime subscription either if it was a large difference in the amount of money between an annual update or lifetime. But it was only a $25 difference which, to me, was pretty insignificant. Even if all I get is more updates POI's.

The outdated POI's have actually been more of an aggrevatino for me than the actual street maps.

There have been several times we serached for a restaurant to eat at while on a road trip, veered off the highway for a couple of miles... only to find the restaraunt out of business. But at least the mapping part got me to it.

If you are keeping your unit

If you are keeping your unit for awhile than factually I disagree with the poster.
I also paid $95 for lifetime. Garmin is offering the same maps whether you wait two years or get lifetime. Getting the lifetime will get me updates EIGHT times quicker than waiting two years, and will cost less or around the same. If your stance is Garmin is providing older data, that would be even more reason to get the four updates per year.....

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If You Are Keeping Your Unit

tampa8 wrote:

If you are keeping your unit for awhile than factually I disagree with the poster.
I also paid $95 for lifetime. Garmin is offering the same maps whether you wait two years or get lifetime. Getting the lifetime will get me updates EIGHT times quicker than waiting two years, and will cost less or around the same. If your stance is Garmin is providing older data, that would be even more reason to get the four updates per year.....

That's true... if you look at it that way. it seems Garmin is making some sort of an attempt to get you more updated with the quarterly updates rather than wait a year.

Not necessarily

BobDee wrote:

...Here is the real crazy part, and should Pi*s you off because CNNT 2010.X maps are actually the Navteq Q4/2008 maps...

I see this posted so often that it's almost become "common wisdom" yet that doesn't make it true everywhere.

It may be that current maps may be about two years out of date on average or more likely, as a worst case scenario. But here in Arizona where I use my nuvi, the last 2009 update and the new "2010" update do include map corrections that are less than one year old.

This is also probably true for the built in POIs although I'm too lazy to do any detailed comparisons here.

I understand that some folks don't find value in having the most current maps and those who feel that buying a newer model GPS every couple of years rather than updating maps is the way to go. For their demands and actions, they are probably making a good move. But for those planning to keep their GPS for 2+ years and who want the most correct maps and POIs (even if they may be as out-of-date as 2 years), then a 1-time purchase of lifetime maps is the way to go.

....end of my 2 cents...

Good point I had not thought

Good point I had not thought of. In Tampa, some of the highway changes that were made within approximately the last year are indeed in the latest update....

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Navteq...

Feel free to check the map reporting page on the Navteq site to compare the latest release with what Garmin releases. Most cases you sill see that they are indeed the same map. Example: the interchange in Providence between 95 and 195 has been relocated since November and has not been updated BY NAVTEQ in their latest updates, nor is it in their report map.

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Price Difference

Honestly, I've been on the fence regarding NuMaps but after I too saw the(to me) insignificant price differential of $25 for a one time update vs. a lifetime update, it became a no brainer for me to opt for the lifetime update. If you are a person that likes to be on the cutting edge and buys a new GPS every year then the lifetime maps is a waste of money. Otherwise, I can't imagine not wanting the lifetime option considering the price differential. Unless, you would rather have maps that are 3-4 years outdated versus having maps that are 2-3 years outdated (in the worst case).
I have never owned a portable map, paper or otherwise that was completely up to date and I always used AAA maps and Thomas Guides in the past. This is no different, the main thing people have a contention with is the naming of the maps (i.e. calling it a 2010 map when SOME of the data is older than that).
If I purchase a 2010 car, it was most likely made or many of its parts would be from 2009 or before. No biggie, it is just a name (that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet) razz
Get over it, it's just a naming convention and if you realize that, then it isn't a big deal. The bottom line for me is having the most current maps and POI's available. Especially with all the recent store closings in this economy, updated POI's are more important than ever.
GPS units are becoming more prevalent in vehicles even for "non-techie" consumers. I fully expect competition and the market to correct perceived deficiencies. Tradtional GPS manufacturers will have the daunting task of competing for market share with up and coming smart phones also.

Diffferent preference for everyone

I considered before of getting the lifetime updates before too, but now will just get a new GPS every few years. I'm ok with using "out of date" maps (just like I'd use the same paper maps for a few years before the age of internet).

And when I go on road trips, my gf would look up food and attractions reviews online before hand so the POI is nice, but less important for these times. So for my case, I'd like to get a new GPS in a few years.

The same old unsubstantiated remarks based on nothing

BobDee wrote:

Garmin International has released their second set of the quarterly maps under the nuMaps Lifetime program moniker.

And I as I have been saying all along Garmin doesn't get the newest map data available. and should have called it's latest release what it actually is 2009.2, instead it gets named "CityNavigator NT 2010".
Here is the real crazy part, and should Pi*s you off because CNNT 2010.X maps are actually the Navteq Q4/2008 maps. So if you still don't see your new year old house, now you know why.

rolleyes

The same old unsubstantiated accusations based on nothing of any kind to back them up but what he in his own mind wishes the truth to be.

It would make absolutely no sense for Navteq to supply Garmin with an older map vesion than any one else considering Garmin buys many times more maps from them than all the other manufacturer's they supply combined. Navteq is solely owned by Nokia and no other manufacturer owns or has ever owned any portion of Navteq's map business. I wrote Navteq a while back and asked that exact question and their response to me was they supply the same exact map database to everyone.

If you look at follow up posts to the original post in this thread there are people who are finding road changes that occurred less than a year ago in the latest map update.

The actual Navteq map version is displayed in MapSource's Map Product Information screen that will show both Garmin's map version number and the Navteq map version number.

These are the last three Garmin map updates with both the Garmin version number followed by the Navteq map version. You can see from the Jan 2009 release to the Apr 2009 release the Navteq map version made a big jump.

City Navigator North America 2009 is Navteq map version # 10.00

City Navigator North America 2009.1 is Navteq map version # 11.10

City Navigator North America 2010.1 is Navteq map version # 13.10

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Highway Construction

craig470 wrote:

Feel free to check the map reporting page on the Navteq site to compare the latest release with what Garmin releases. Most cases you sill see that they are indeed the same map. Example: the interchange in Providence between 95 and 195 has been relocated since November and has not been updated BY NAVTEQ in their latest updates, nor is it in their report map.

That interchange was open for traffic in 2008 for the north bound side there still working on it though but there changing the whole traffic pattern there and that's not in the 2010 Map I was hoping for that. There is so much road construction on 95 from NY to MA especially in Providence I bet that those changes wont be reflected until 2013.

BobDee ... didn't your

BobDee ... didn't your mother tell you that if you don't have anything good to say, it's best to say nothing at all?

Good grief, enough with sending out the negative waves.

As I've said before ... GPS's aren't perfect. Get over it.

If you think you can build a better mouse trap, talk to your local lending institution about taking out a loan and starting your own GPS company.

I think you will soon find out that your constant stream of criticism about Garmin was unwarranted.

I'm beginning to suspect that you work for one of Garmin's many jeolous GPS competitors and are constantly trying to churn the waters in hope that you can turn people against Garmin.

Enough already.

Nobody is forcing you to read or post to the Garmin forums.

We all log on here to collect POI's, solve the occasional problem and generally have a laugh or two.

Again, if you don't have anything good to say ...
well, you already know that.

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Oh yeah

Oh yeah ... A Kum and GO gas station that opened late last year near my daughter's Colorado home shows up as one of the built-in POI's of the 2010.1 update.

SO apparently some recent things are added and others not.

But as I said, if you think you can do a better job than Garmin or it's map supplier ... well, go for it. Open up your pocketbooks, put your own capital at risk ... and try to do better.

That's what the spirit of capitalism is all about.

Not a bunch of whining.

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Re: Oh Yeah

cbwatts wrote:

Oh yeah ... A Kum and GO gas station that opened late last year near my daughter's Colorado home shows up as one of the built-in POI's of the 2010.1 update.

SO apparently some recent things are added and others not.

But as I said, if you think you can do a better job than Garmin or it's map supplier ... well, go for it. Open up your pocketbooks, put your own capital at risk ... and try to do better.

That's what the spirit of capitalism is all about.

Not a bunch of whining.

Ahmen to that.

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How do these maps work?

I have never updated my map. Do you get an account to download these from garmin.com or something?

What's the alternative?

I don't see anyone offering an alternative to having whatever Garmin offers at a particular time. Where are you going to get a newer map? If it angers you (use better language please) to have a 2 year old map then tell us what to do to get newer maps. It looks like you buy lifetime maps you get the current map, buy yearly updates you get the same map once a year. The only difference is you get updates between the yearly maps. Now please tell me the alternative instead of ranting. I'd be glad to know. Do you have inside info that would help to get newer maps each year?

By the way where are you people getting lifetime for $95?? Amazon?

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Amazon

geochapman wrote:

By the way where are you people getting lifetime for $95?? Amazon?

I bought mine from Amazon.

Amazon isn't always the cheapest source for stuff, but with free S&H, it's usually close to the lowest cost if not the actual lowest--and with my use of Amazon over time, I'm very happy with them as a source for purchases.

One tip I have for the patient: With popular items like this, Amazon's price can vary pretty substantially and quite frequently, even changing multiple times in one week. (I paid $108 with free S&H back in February and prices went up for it on Amazon shortly after my order--I see it's under $96 today.) So if you're willing to wait a week or two, monitor Amazon's price every day over a week or two and buy in a dip rather than a peak.

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colonelpenguin wrote:

I have never updated my map. Do you get an account to download these from garmin.com or something?

Log in to my.garmin.com. Create an account if you don't have one.

You can then enter the information for your GPS unit and purchase the maps.

Odd?

Hi All,

Just to poke in a small point, I still have the 2008 maps on my 760 and they contain a subdivision that wasn't even started when I got the GPS.

i.e. The roads listed didn't even exist back then.

Now 6 months later, most of the roads on my GPS now exist.

So, I guess it all depends on when and how they get the data smile

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Nope

pratzert wrote:

The maps that Garmin has on their units "ARE" the most current maps. There a few manufacturers who get maps supplied by other map suppliers, but as a whole, all the maps are about the same. You will find some things on one maps but not on another and vice versa. It is a matter of opinion on who has the "best" maps. A lot apparently has to do with your location or where you travel.

All of the GPS manufacture market their units with "current" maps because they have the most "current" maps available to them.

The information on those maps is not the most current information or 'real time"information.

As is the case of school testbooks. Most of the textbooks are the most "current" textbooks available, but they do not always contain the most current information.

The maps that are on the Garmin units are as up to date as the maps on most other GPS manufacturers.

What people complain about is that roads that were built a year (or two) ago often do not appear on those maps.

With the way mapping, verifications, and the manufacturing process is done, it's nearly impossible to offer a GPS units with real time maps on it that most people can afford.

Garmin loads the most current maps available to them at the time the unit is manufactured. If that unit is not sold until after the next batch of updated maps comes out, the purchaser is allowed to get the most up to date maps available to Garmin at that time for free.

Sorry but your wrong!
Garmin doesn't cough up the cash for the newest of the new.

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I don't find

CraigW wrote:
geochapman wrote:

By the way where are you people getting lifetime for $95?? Amazon?

I bought mine from Amazon.

Amazon isn't always the cheapest source for stuff, but with free S&H, it's usually close to the lowest cost if not the actual lowest--and with my use of Amazon over time, I'm very happy with them as a source for purchases.

One tip I have for the patient: With popular items like this, Amazon's price can vary pretty substantially and quite frequently, even changing multiple times in one week. (I paid $108 with free S&H back in February and prices went up for it on Amazon shortly after my order--I see it's under $96 today.) So if you're willing to wait a week or two, monitor Amazon's price every day over a week or two and buy in a dip rather than a peak.

What search words are you using? I get the annual page but not the lifetime subscription page.

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There are none

geochapman wrote:

I don't see anyone offering an alternative to having whatever Garmin offers at a particular time. Where are you going to get a newer map? If it angers you (use better language please) to have a 2 year old map then tell us what to do to get newer maps. It looks like you buy lifetime maps you get the current map, buy yearly updates you get the same map once a year. The only difference is you get updates between the yearly maps. Now please tell me the alternative instead of ranting. I'd be glad to know. Do you have inside info that would help to get newer maps each year?

By the way where are you people getting lifetime for $95?? Amazon?

there is no alternative, because once the map dat is received from NAVTEQ, Garmin puts a twist on them with Garmin's own proprietary algorithms. So your stuck, however that is pretty much the norm in the industry to make the maps thier own.

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Try this

geochapman wrote:

What search words are you using? I get the annual page but not the lifetime subscription page.

numaps lifetime north america
Currently $95.44 with free S&H

Did someone hear something?

rjrsw dares anyone to say anything about Garmin, and he don't like it especially if it's about the trouble plagued Nuvi line.

He makes me laugh, because he says he's not going to reply, then bla bla la...Hahah

NAVTEQ's partner in the manufacturing end get priority to maps. And Nokia is Majority owner but not sole. rjrsw doesn't like it when I name other names beside for Garmin so I can say who the Sole is.

Garmin's maps are as stated in my OP.

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I am aware...

ENYPDE wrote:
craig470 wrote:

Feel free to check the map reporting page on the Navteq site to compare the latest release with what Garmin releases. Most cases you sill see that they are indeed the same map. Example: the interchange in Providence between 95 and 195 has been relocated since November and has not been updated BY NAVTEQ in their latest updates, nor is it in their report map.

That interchange was open for traffic in 2008 for the north bound side there still working on it though but there changing the whole traffic pattern there and that's not in the 2010 Map I was hoping for that. There is so much road construction on 95 from NY to MA especially in Providence I bet that those changes wont be reflected until 2013.

I am aware of the changes being that I do live in Providence. I feel that updating the southbound to eastbound is more important since it switched from a left exit to a right exit as opposed to the north to east which was moved, but still on the right. I was also just reiterating that the same 'errors' are on the Navteq website and Garmin is in fact getting the same map versions and not being delayed. With that...

Navteq was pretty good about changing the maps after the Big Dig was completed (although a few minor glitches), maybe they are waiting for the rest of the changes to be made in Providence before they update it, but with quarterly updates that wouldn't make sense.

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Garmin has the newest maps for sure

BobDee Said
:quote]
Sorry but your wrong!
Garmin doesn't cough up the cash for the newest of the new. [/quote]

And I say......Prove it !

I am also getting the suspicion that he is a troll from one of the competitors.

Correction...

craig470 wrote:
ENYPDE wrote:
craig470 wrote:

Feel free to check the map reporting page on the Navteq site to compare the latest release with what Garmin releases. Most cases you sill see that they are indeed the same map. Example: the interchange in Providence between 95 and 195 has been relocated since November and has not been updated BY NAVTEQ in their latest updates, nor is it in their report map.

That interchange was open for traffic in 2008 for the north bound side there still working on it though but there changing the whole traffic pattern there and that's not in the 2010 Map I was hoping for that.

The northbound interchange from 95 to 195 is actually updated and correct on the 2010.10 map.

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Lots of recent additions

Not exactly sure how the OP gets his opinions ... but the more I explore the 2010.10 maps ... the more I am impressed.

Our son and his family live in Fort McMurray, AB ... he lives in a new subdivision that is included in the 2010.10 maps.

There are also several new streets in subdivisions around here in Central Illinois that are included in the new maps.

I think the OP is blowing hot air hoping he will frighten some folks away from purchasing Garmin. I, too, question his motives.

They certainly aren't constructive criticisms.

I wish the website would ban him for his constant stream of "flames."

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Garmin 205, 260W, 1450LMT, 2460LMT, HEREwego for iPhone ... all still mapping strong.

A false statement by BobDee in regards to Navteq's ownership

BobDee wrote:

NAVTEQ's partner in the manufacturing end get priority to maps. And Nokia is Majority owner but not sole. rjrsw doesn't like it when I name other names beside for Garmin so I can say who the Sole is.

A false statement by BobDee in regards to Navteq's ownership. Wholly-owned means just that, Nokia is the sole and only owner of Navteq and it's map database. If you read the Wikipedia page link below it details the entire ownership history of Navteq.

The following is a direct quote from the first paragraph of the link below the quote from the Wikipedia Navteq page:

"NAVTEQ is a Chicago, Illinois-based provider of Geographic Information Systems (GIS) data and is a dominant company in providing the base electronic navigable maps. The company is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Nokia but operates independently."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navteq

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

What's the bottom line?

So what's the bottom line? Is it better to get the lifetime updates or just update everyother year?

Read all the comments

Read all the comments and see what makes sense to you !
Then make a decision !

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MrKenFL- "Money can't buy you happiness .. But it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery." NUVI 260, Nuvi 1490LMT & Nuvi 2595LMT all with 2014.4 maps !

Consider this

If you update just TWICE, the lifetime map is a better deal.

Agreed

alokasi wrote:

If you update just TWICE, the lifetime map is a better deal.

Agreed. But I really hope Garmin gets their act together and actually tests the map updates/installation processes prior to release.

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nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area

Can't figure out what to say, so call me a troll.

pratzert wrote:

BobDee Said
:quote]
Sorry but your wrong!
Garmin doesn't cough up the cash for the newest of the new.

And I say......Prove it !

I am also getting the suspicion that he is a troll from one of the competitors.

Wow your a big boy now!
Hey dude you just called me a troll, got no time for people that call others names..

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Using Android Based GPS.The above post and my sig reflects my own opinions, expressed for the purpose of informing or inspiring, not commanding. Naturally, you are free to reject or embrace whatever you read.

Alright knock it off guys!!!

Alright knock it off guys!!! Play nice please

Miss POI

A false statement by rjrsw in regards to Navteq's ownership

First thing I have to say is quoting Wikipedia is like quoting the National Enquire publication for truth in journalism. Would you like me to make an edit to wikipedia to say what ever?

Second I am going to quote from A manufactures page with credits. So we can finally put thus to sleep.

Now understand I am not answering this because some one called me a name, I could careless about him,the reason is because rjrsw needs to see the truth no matter how bad it hurts.

excerpts from NAVIGON web page
Read more of what below here:
http://navigonusa.com/about/company/history/

2008

* NAVIGON takes navigation to another level with the launch of NAVIGON 8100T, 7200T, 2200T and 2000S devices
* NAVIGON secures number four position in US PND Market (NPD Group)
* NAVIGON introduces FreshMaps, revolutionary map updating service to provide up to 8 verified map updates for consumers over a two year period

2007

* NAVIGON awarded CES Best Of Innovations 2008 Design and Engineering Award Honoree, NAVIGON 7100 for “In-Vehicle Accessories; Telematics Update 2007 Awards, MobileNavigator for "Best Navigation Application"; Retail Vision 2007 Awards, NAVIGON for "Best of the Best
* NAVIGON combined innovative design with leading functionality to successfully launch the NAVIGON 7100, NAVIGON 5100 and NAVIGON 2100/2120 PNDs and redefine the navigation marketplace
* NAVIGON first to deliver Zagat content to personal navigation devices (PND)
* Announced an industry first partnership with Clear Channel's Total Traffic Network to work toward providing free real-time traffic information across PNDs
* Co-developed and launched the lightest, smallest, and thinnest multifunctional PND on the market - the Fujitsu Siemens Pocket LOOX™ N100

2006

* Launched the current editions of NAVIGON's MobileNavigator™ (MN) branded software, including MN Classic, MN Premium, and MN Wireless
* Acquired NAVTEQ navigation software business

2005

* Created navigation solutions for all mobile appliances: MobileNavigator|5 and NAVIGON|TriCeiver with "High Sensitivity" Technology

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Using Android Based GPS.The above post and my sig reflects my own opinions, expressed for the purpose of informing or inspiring, not commanding. Naturally, you are free to reject or embrace whatever you read.

I have said all along that Navigon bought the software Div.

CHICAGO, Dec. 19 - NAVIGON Inc., the leading navigation software provider, has acquired NAVTEQ's navigation software business including all production software assets and development personnel to create automotive navigation software and software development toolkits that support a variety of platforms and media. NAVIGON now uniquely possesses the assets to cross pollinate the consumer electronics and automotive-grade navigation software realms -- applying the innovation and nimble development cycles of personal navigation devices to in-dash navigation, and the rigor and superior quality of in-dash infotainment platforms to consumer electronic devices.

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Using Android Based GPS.The above post and my sig reflects my own opinions, expressed for the purpose of informing or inspiring, not commanding. Naturally, you are free to reject or embrace whatever you read.
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