Garmin GPs vs iPhone screen resolution

 

I was in NYC with time on my hands and so dropped into the Apple Store and looked at the new iPhone.

I got one of the fellows to walk me through the GPS functions of the iPhone and the one thing that struck me above all (I had my Garmain Nuvi 650 with me and was using it in the pedestrian mode) was the fantastic screen resolution.

Leaving /everything/ else aside, why do GPS units have such truly crappy, crappy screen resolution. If Apple can sell that multi-trick pony iPhone starting at $200 and include a stunning screen resolution of 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi, why can't Garmin and other GPS manufacturers, whose units can cost far in excess of $200, produce a unit with a decent screen resolution?

Anyone have any feedback on this?

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Nuvi 3790T w. Lifetime Maps/Macintosh OS Lion/iPhone 4/iPad 1

Screen Resolution

Speed3 wrote:

I was in NYC with time on my hands and so dropped into the Apple Store and looked at the new iPhone.

I got one of the fellows to walk me through the GPS functions of the iPhone and the one thing that struck me above all (I had my Garmain Nuvi 650 with me and was using it in the pedestrian mode) was the fantastic screen resolution.

Leaving /everything/ else aside, why do GPS units have such truly crappy, crappy screen resolution. If Apple can sell that multi-trick pony iPhone starting at $200 and include a stunning screen resolution of 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi, why can't Garmin and other GPS manufacturers, whose units can cost far in excess of $200, produce a unit with a decent screen resolution?

Anyone have any feedback on this?

First: Thats the way the market works, competition!
Next: How many pixels do you want in order to see what you are looking for? (In order to understand my point I am not 17 but above 70!). Don't misunderstand me wink , I love competition!

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Nüvi 765T, Nüvi 1390T, Nüvi 2559 and 2695 LMT, GPS12, GPS18 (used in nRoute and Oziexplorer on laptop), GPSmap76CSx, SonyEricsson X1 (For OziExplorer CE maps)

iPhone as a backup

I have had an iPhone for over two years... in fact... I am on my second one (upgraded to the 3G model and gave my daughter my old one)

For me, I use my GPS when I am driving and like the size of the unit. The only time I have used my iPhone for directions is when I was with a group of folks and no one had a GPS and we were lost.

It is a good second option... but wouldn't use it as a primary. But yes... the resolutions kicks!!

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nuvi 750 / nuvi 255W / nuvi 200W / nuvi 1390t

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Speed3 wrote:

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Leaving /everything/ else aside, why do GPS units have such truly crappy, crappy screen resolution. If Apple can sell that multi-trick pony iPhone starting at $200 and include a stunning screen resolution of 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi, why can't Garmin and other GPS manufacturers, whose units can cost far in excess of $200, produce a unit with a decent screen resolution?

Most likely because you can't get an iPhone for $200 without signing a contract with a cell phone carrier. It's a subsidized price. If you were to purchase an iPhone without a subsidy, it would likely be more like $500.

Subsidized Price

I agree about buying at a subsidized price but Garmin and other GPS manufacturers are being put on notice that Smart phones are progressing at a rapid pace and since most people own cell phones and subscribing to two year contracts is the norm. The traditional GPS could possibly be supplanted sooner than later except of course to the hard core GPS niche like many of us. But for the mass populace, the accuracy of cell phone triangulation is just fine.

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DrewDT wrote:

But for the mass populace, the accuracy of cell phone triangulation is just fine.

If you spend any time at all reading cell phone forums, this is true at first, then - folks discover they're not getting what GPS technology is really capable of, and become peeved their phone on triangulation is really lousy.

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

True to some extent

Yes, I do see many tech savvy (those typical of posting in internet forums) unhappy with how their cell phones perform as a GPS. But equally so just talking to the average cell phone user (in my experience) I've found they are ecstatic to have that capability and they tell me stories of how they've gotten around Los Angeles, NY, San Francisco and were happy to have that functionality in their phones.
I'm just saying that for die hard GPS fans like us, cell phones are not even close yet. But considering the rapid progress these devices have already made and the fact that most people have cell phones and not necessarily stand alone GPS devices. I fully expect cell phones to really take a huge market share in the GPS market. Especially considering their price vs stand alone GPS prices plus map upgrades.

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DrewDT - Garmin agrees with your opinion. That's why they are spending the time & money to develop the Nuviphone.

Resolution

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First: Thats the way the market works, competition!
Next: How many pixels do you want in order to see what you are looking for? (In order to understand my point I am not 17 but above 70!). Don't misunderstand me wink , I love competition!

My point exactly. I am 71 and have some vision "issues" and found the iPhone screen ever so much easier to read than the Garmin screen.

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Nuvi 3790T w. Lifetime Maps/Macintosh OS Lion/iPhone 4/iPad 1

Resolution

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Most likely because you can't get an iPhone for $200 without signing a contract with a cell phone carrier. It's a subsidized price. If you were to purchase an iPhone without a subsidy, it would likely be more like $500.

What you say is true, Mama, but quite a few of the GPS units cost north of $500 and still suffer from mediocre screen resolution

Have you ever looked at the resolution on an iPhone? I had not, until the NYC trip, and now I know how good it is possible for the resolution on a GPS unit to be.

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Nuvi 3790T w. Lifetime Maps/Macintosh OS Lion/iPhone 4/iPad 1

Resolution

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Most likely because you can't get an iPhone for $200 without signing a contract with a cell phone carrier. It's a subsidized price. If you were to purchase an iPhone without a subsidy, it would likely be more like $500.

What you say is true, Mama, but quite a few of the GPS units cost north of $500 and still suffer from mediocre screen resolution

Have you ever looked at the resolution on an iPhone? I had not, until the NYC trip, and now I know how good it is possible for the resolution on a GPS unit to be.

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Nuvi 3790T w. Lifetime Maps/Macintosh OS Lion/iPhone 4/iPad 1

Tom-Tom and the iPhone

DrewDT wrote:

I agree about buying at a subsidized price but Garmin and other GPS manufacturers are being put on notice that Smart phones are progressing at a rapid pace and since most people own cell phones and subscribing to two year contracts is the norm. The traditional GPS could possibly be supplanted sooner than later except of course to the hard core GPS niche like many of us. But for the mass populace, the accuracy of cell phone triangulation is just fine.

Googling "iPhone and GPS" and I found this:
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That sound you hear is the not-yet-released nüvifone trembling in fear, as TomTom has just announced that an iPhone-ready version of its famed navigation software is practically ready to rock 'n roll. More specifically, a TomTom spokesman was quoted as saying that its "navigation system runs on the iPhone already," and he made the statement hot on the heels of the iPhone 3G announcement. Sadly, he wouldn't disclose an estimated release date for the software, but it's safe to say that the TomTom touch could make Apple's darling a formidable nüvifone opponent.
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Garmin better hop to it. It's amazing how fast a company can be left in the dust if they don't keep up.

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Nuvi 3790T w. Lifetime Maps/Macintosh OS Lion/iPhone 4/iPad 1

Why I Don' have an iPhone

AT&T.

If they come out with a LTE version of the iPhone, I'll get one. smile

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*Keith* MacBook Pro *wifi iPad(2012) w/BadElf GPS & iPhone6 + Navigon*

You're forgetting amortization

Speed3 wrote:

...Leaving /everything/ else aside, why do GPS units have such truly crappy, crappy screen resolution. If Apple can sell that multi-trick pony iPhone starting at $200 and include a stunning screen resolution of 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi, why can't Garmin and other GPS manufacturers, whose units can cost far in excess of $200, produce a unit with a decent screen resolution?

You are overlooking an important part of the business model for mobile phones. Monthly Fees! All mobile providers sell the phones for a lot less than they cost to make. They recover those funds over the duration of the contract. The only revenue Garmin gets after the sale is the tiny fraction of users who purchase map updates. The iPhone costs a lot more than that to make.

It's like . . .

It's like the "let's give them the printer and then nail them for the ink" philosophy. That way they will think they are getting a deal.

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Garmin Nuvi 780

Interesting point

These are good points but since most people have cell phones already and are accustomed to their monthly plans with an additional fee for data plans, it is an easier sell for an all in one device that is easier to carry around with you and you don't have to worry about where to put it when you aren't driving. Smart phones these days offer much more than GPS navigation.
IPhones and and Blackberries have so much third party software available to them that users can customize their devices to exactly what they want them to be. GPS is just another convenient customization. There is also the ability to have access to more current and varying map data / POI's than what most of us are accustomed to with our stand alone GPS units.

One other comment I will make...

I did try the GPS function yesterday on my iPhone. I also purchased and downloaded a GPS application for the iPhone. Works... but again... need glasses to read anything.

My own personal preference on things like this is I use my iPhone as a phone and contact manager. The GPS feature is good to have in a pinch. On my GPS units I do not buy them for Bluetooth, MP3 or viewing photos. I think the other options are pretty much useless (for some Bluetooth works).

Just my two cents...

Cheers,
Ronnie

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nuvi 750 / nuvi 255W / nuvi 200W / nuvi 1390t

Cams Ahoy!!!

Cams Ahoy!!! is an Iphone application that has the POI Factory redlight and speed camera info.

We are the data source for this great tool;)

Miss POI

NOT avaialble in the Canadian Store

miss poi wrote:

Cams Ahoy!!! is an Iphone application that has the POI Factory redlight and speed camera info.

We are the data source for this great tool;)

Miss POI

crying Cams Ahoy is NOT avaialble in the Canadian Store crying

smile Wait, it may have been a glitch in the system. It looks like it will work now. smile

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Garmin Nüvi 855 & 760, iPhone, Magellan RM860T

There you have it

miss poi wrote:

Cams Ahoy!!! is an Iphone application that has the POI Factory redlight and speed camera info.

We are the data source for this great tool;)

Miss POI

I hope this application will be available for Blackberries in the future.
It looks like the wave of the future is undeniable, our trusty POI Factory is on board as well. It'll be scary once this application can be updated like we do now with our stand alone GPS's.

http://camsahoy.com/