newly discontinued nuvi models: 2x0w & 7x0

 
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nuvi 760, nuvi 765T, nuvi 855, nuvi 3790LMT, nuvi 3490LMT - SoCal area
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Sigh

Buy a new model today and have it discontinued in just over a year shock

I wonder if this is a good business model for long term branding and customer satisfaction.

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After reviewing the list of discontinued models it appears the discontinued models are actually better devices than the "current" models. Garmin is heading in the wrong direction.

discontinuing last years models is pretty much the norm

DrewDT wrote:

Buy a new model today and have it discontinued in just over a year shock

New models rolling out every year and discontinuing last years is pretty much the norm for the electronics industry. TV's, DVD players, Audio Receivers, Cell phones and I could go on and on listing items that normally have new models every year.

If you are not one of the people that must have the latest model it really doesn't make any difference for you if your happy with the one you have. At this point I have a 760 that I'm happy with and there is nothing new right now that would tempt me to upgrade.

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

Price Increase

I am looking at a 760 to buy and after reading the above, I checked amazon and the price went up from $220 to $224 today. What gives? You would think that it would go down.

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Paul..... Nuvi 765T

I have noticed in the past

I have noticed in the past that when Costco starts selling a Garmin the model is on it's way out.. Thus the reason for the good prices, Garmin is cleaning out their inventory... rolleyes This may be true with other gpsr's as well...

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Models

rjrsw wrote:

New models rolling out every year and discontinuing last years is pretty much the norm for the electronics industry. TV's, DVD players, Audio Receivers, Cell phones and I could go on and on listing items that normally have new models every year.

In the fast moving world of electronics, a manufacturer having the same model for over a year would actually seem more like a lack of progress (and hence a bad thing).

Discontinued 760

I just bought one and today I was on their website and saw it was discontinued. A bit disheartening.

New Yesterday - Discontinued Today!!!!

DrewDT wrote:

Buy a new model today and have it discontinued in just over a year shock

I wonder if this is a good business model for long term branding and customer satisfaction.

Try - buy a model on Saturday and get it discontinued on Tuesday!!! I am just downloading the firmware and map updates for a pair of 780s that I got on Saturday.

Wonder how this will effect those that purchase the "lifetime" map updates???

Garmin said there was no time limit on the lifetime maps

visiter555 wrote:

Wonder how this will effect those that purchase the "lifetime" map updates???

I contacted Garmin and asked them about the lifetime maps before I signed up. Their written answer to me was that as long as the GPS unit is operating the unit would be qualified to continue to get the lifetime map updates. They also said there was no time limit and even if they needed to replace the unit instead of repairing it the lifetime maps would transfer to the replacement unit.

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

You wouldn't know it from the price!

US$500 for a 760! Yep, they're going to sell a lot of those from their site.

Discontinued Models

Makes my nuvi 660 that I got less than a year ago seem ancient. smile

Not a good sign if nothing new is in the works for 2009

jwillum wrote:

In the fast moving world of electronics, a manufacturer having the same model for over a year would actually seem more like a lack of progress (and hence a bad thing).

New and better models are always needed to keep the interest and excitement level up. When a Company stops going forward they are actually going backward.

I agree with you that when a manufacturer has stopped spending money on research and development and goes to the Consumer Electronics Show and has no new or improved model announcements for the entire coming year that cannot be a good sign for them. I like for them to at least show they are moving forward even if I might not be in the market to upgrade at that time.

The CES show is when they would announce to the world what great new GPS units and features they will be making available for the rest of 2009. A number of GPS manufacturers unfortunately had no new GPS products to show for the entire upcoming year and that cannot be good.

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

Did You Get That Notarized?

rjrsw wrote:

I contacted Garmin and asked them about the lifetime maps before I signed up. Their written answer to me was that as long as the GPS unit is operating the unit would be qualified to continue to get the lifetime map updates. They also said there was no time limit and even if they needed to replace the unit instead of repairing it the lifetime maps would transfer to the replacement unit.

I question the accuracy of their email to you. Because the nuMaps terms and limitations state:

If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately), you will receive up to four (4) map Data updates per year, when and as such updates are made available on Garmin’s website, for one (1) compatible Garmin product until your product’s useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map Data from NAVTEQ, whichever is shorter.

Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product.

I'm glad to hear this..

Thank you for posting this! I was wondering what would happen , in this event, since I purchased lifetime maps for my Nüvi 200 recently. I hope they stick to this policy.

rjrsw wrote:
visiter555 wrote:

Wonder how this will effect those that purchase the "lifetime" map updates???

I contacted Garmin and asked them about the lifetime maps before I signed up. Their written answer to me was that as long as the GPS unit is operating the unit would be qualified to continue to get the lifetime map updates. They also said there was no time limit and even if they needed to replace the unit instead of repairing it the lifetime maps would transfer to the replacement unit.

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Matt

Well....

I guess we are at Garmin's mercy since they determine if a unit is within it's useful life.

GadgetGuy2008 wrote:

I question the accuracy of their email to you. Because the nuMaps terms and limitations state:

If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately), you will receive up to four (4) map Data updates per year, when and as such updates are made available on Garmin’s website, for one (1) compatible Garmin product until your product’s useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map Data from NAVTEQ, whichever is shorter.

Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product.

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Matt

Nothing in the latest Nuvi line Tempts either!

rjrsw wrote:
DrewDT wrote:

Buy a new model today and have it discontinued in just over a year shock

New models rolling out every year and discontinuing last years is pretty much the norm for the electronics industry. TV's, DVD players, Audio Receivers, Cell phones and I could go on and on listing items that normally have new models every year.

If you are not one of the people that must have the latest model it really doesn't make any difference for you if your happy with the one you have. At this point I have a 760 that I'm happy with and there is nothing new right now that would tempt me to upgrade.

You would think that Firmware problems would be worked out rather than abandoned, wouldn't you?

It's pretty bad when they release products and you and me beta the firmware for them. Although I have to admit my GPS models don't stamer.

The Nevi series is terrible, on average, period.

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works for cameras

DrewDT wrote:

I wonder if this is a good business model for long term branding and customer satisfaction.

It's been working for the camera companies for years. They practically replace their entire lineup every year.

Planned Obsolescence

If you can buy it then it is already obsolete. It all ends up in the land fill sooner or later. It makes sense to me that the 250W is now defunct since I just bought one at Christmas.

Garmin is going to have problems with all the GPS ready cell phones out there. Their products don't do enough functions to survive.

Bob

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Robert Woodcock

fast moving world of electronics, at what cost, Us?

jwillum wrote:

In the fast moving world of electronics, a manufacturer having the same model for over a year would actually seem more like a lack of progress (and hence a bad thing).

A manufacturer that abandons their products without correcting software and firmware problems is even worse. It creates serious strains between the company and the customers showing a total lack of progress in customer service and hence a real bad thing in the fast moving world of electronics. And of late the Nuvi line has been a disgrace for such a one time powerhouse.

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For their lower end lines

johnc wrote:
DrewDT wrote:

I wonder if this is a good business model for long term branding and customer satisfaction.

It's been working for the camera companies for years. They practically replace their entire lineup every year.

It works for their lower end DSLR's and point and shoot cameras, not necessarily their better products which they are more committed to supporting long term.

Death notice of GPSrs may be a bit premature...

RWoodcock wrote:

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Garmin is going to have problems with all the GPS ready cell phones out there. Their products don't do enough functions to survive.

Bob

For me at least, form factor is as important a feature as functions when it comes to adopting a technology. Phone users generally want a phone as small as possible--GPSr users want a readable screen as large as practical. I don't know if the 4.3" widescreen is "ideal", but it does fit in my pockets (form) which is important to me. And I do know that even though I'd like the 5" screen of the Garmin 5000, that wouldn't fit in my pockets, so that's a no-go.

Phone screens are in the opposite direction of my needs--the screen is just too small. While I have an iPhone wannbe phone, I'd never want to use it as my "daily driver" navigator. In this case the single purpose device GPSr meeting my needs 90-100% of the time is preferable to me than the possible 100% (ever go somewhere with limited cell signal?) service of a phone.

The cell phone may be the ultimate "wearable appliance" but I think it still has a way to go in order to be the one and only. The road is littered with other "all-in-one" stuff that we'd probably never buy again looking back at them; eg., TVs with integrated VHS or DVD players, for example.

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NEOhioGuy - Garmin 2639, MIO Knight Rider

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johnc wrote:
DrewDT wrote:

I wonder if this is a good business model for long term branding and customer satisfaction.

It's been working for the camera companies for years. They practically replace their entire lineup every year.

And then there are automobiles...

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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. - Pablo Picasso (Bob - Garmin c530, eTrex Vista HCx)

Automobiles

Not sure many companies want to follow most automaker business practices.

The 250w was introduced nearly 2 years ago

RWoodcock wrote:

If you can buy it then it is already obsolete. It all ends up in the land fill sooner or later. It makes sense to me that the 250W is now defunct since I just bought one at Christmas.

Bob

The 250w was introduced nearly 2 years ago so it's no surprise that Garmin has now discontinued production of that model. You purchased your 250w after the 2x5 replacement models for that series were already released.

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GM Built-in Navigation system - Samsung S6 Edge+ Smartphone with Garmin Viago, Google Maps & HERE Apps

Nothing in the Works for 2009

Im think at this time, GPS units are about as advanced as they are going to be.
The only "improvements" they can add are non-navigational features (more games, advanced phone service, internet browsing, playing DVD,s (followed by Blu Rays the next year). These movies would have to be on your 8 Gig chip followed the next year by a out-of-the-air download. You catch my drift.

It is like what has happened to cell phones. Two weeks ago I had to replace my ancient cell phone and I stupidly asked for a new phone that would place calls and take calls. The sales person looked at me like I was a Luddite. No such thing exists they told me. My new phone does more than I could ever want. It even take lousy pictures!

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Regards, Daqddyo1

My 660 still works very well

My 660 still works very well for me and until they come out with a feature that just knocks my socks off, I'll be hanging onto it.

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Your Portion Of Light Whether you are a brilliant flame or but a tiny spark matters not-for the world needs whatever portion of light is yours to give.

Is it working??

johnc wrote:
DrewDT wrote:

I wonder if this is a good business model for long term branding and customer satisfaction.

It's been working for the camera companies for years. They practically replace their entire lineup every year.

Is it working with cameras?..Or will it catch up with them like it did with cars? During my 20 years with car mfrs. I heard "The market's big enough for eveyone" and "Build it and they will buy it" way too many times. I knew that dog wouldn't hunt forever.

I also used to be a Nikon zealot big-time, but haven't bought a new one in years because the ones that really worked well got obsoleted and replaced by ones that were just marketing hype or technology for technology's sake.

They seem to forget that it's "Build a better mousetrap, and they will buy it".

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It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.

technoloy does not stand still

daqddyo1 wrote:

... The only "improvements" they can add are ...

I think this is a pretty short sighted view of the GPS industry. Just looking at Garmin as an example, there are plenty of features on high end units that could cheaply be migrated to lower tier units (routing and mp3 support are just two examples) while new features could be added to high end expensive units. I'll just suggest some of the things they might do that quickly come to mind, but I'm hardly a GPS designer and I expect that there is a lot more that they are either working on or have at least considered:

  • Avoidances - Some people might want to avoid a particular road that they know frequently has bad traffic, has potholes, or they just don't like. Others may want to avoid an entire state (Louisiana in my case) and block out an entire area from automatic routing. I can do this on PC based mapping software like MS S&T or Delorme, no reason that I shouldn't be able t do it with a dedicated unit.
  • Map editing - Tom Tom already provides this, If Garmin does not, my next GPS will not be Garmin. Handy when there is a lot of new construction in your city. Even more important when you have a map area in you neighborhood that thinks two streets are connected when they are not and the GPS keeps trying to route you to this "shortcut".
  • Map orientation - Those wide screen GPS units show you lots more map, but the extra area isn't likely along your route. They could take a tip from the iPhone and other smart Phones and even cameras and include orientation sensing technology so that a user could choose to orient the screen in the other direction and see more of the road in front of them instead of more of the road off to the sides.
  • More customization of UI - Many programs and even some products allow for great user provided customization of the UI, a.k.a. "skinning". Garmin could certainly benefit from this. And I certainly do consider this a navigation based issue. I frequently have an alert pop up on my nuvi, but have a lot of trouble re4ading it because of Garmin's choices of fonts and colors for the alerts and backgrounds. If I could re-skin my GPS I would certainly change the alert bubble, making the text larger and cleaner against a better contrasting background, even at the expense of a few less characters on the screen.
  • Faster CPUs and more memory - The trend in these areas will continue. Newer GPSs will have more frequent screen updates giving a smoother look to the display. Flash memory continues to drop in price and newer memory technology based on nano-wires is coming. We've already seen the limit on "Waypoints" raised from 500 to 1000 in the newest Garmin hardware, future GPSa will likely be even less restrictive, support more waypoints, more routes, more internal icons (and perhaps customizable icons for favorites) and the like. Perhaps the North American GPS units will become true North American units and include Mexico, or combo North America/Europe (or other versions) GPS units will be released for travelers with passports.
  • Better support for off road use - My nuvi doesn't even have an "off road" option. Garmin states on their website that it is not Geocache friendly. I'm hard pressed to understand why this is. Perhaps they want to market more expensive units to users who want these features, but it seems unnecessairly restrictive and it may well drive customers to other brands rather than a more expensive Garmin model. I expect that we'll see more features of different GPS devices find their way to the low end nuvi line (or whatever replaces the nuvi next month), and that a nuvi with road lock will become as unlikely a product as a B&W screen on a car GPS is today. Garmin will have to adapt and give the customers what they want or give up the customer to someone who will.
  • Fix things users complain about- Such as that cheap junky slide switch on the nivi. that frequently fails to turn the unit off and looks like a disaster waiting to happen. I would gladly give up the "screen lock" feature to replace this with a better and more reliable push button.

And I'm sure that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Technology does not stand still. there is nothing wrong with the GPS that you bought this year or last or even the year before. But particularly with the high price of map updates, more and more people are going to look to buy new GPS receivers rather than just "update" an old unit, and they will be shopping for features in their next GPS, the manufacturer who offers them will get the sale. You can no more expect GPS technology to stand still than you can expect to walk into a car dealer showroom and expect them to show you a new 2006 model car and tell you that it is exactly the same as the 2009 or 2010 models and that nothing has been changed because the 2006 gets you where you need to go.

I don't need a phone...

daqddyo1 wrote:

My new phone does more than I could ever want. It even take lousy pictures!

Hey, I don't need a phone to take lousy pictures, I have several thousands of dollars worth of DSLRs and related equipment that I can take lousy pictures with! Actually, I know how you feel - I went through that a couple of years ago when I got my current phone. And yes, for the most part all it does is make and receive calls.

Add me to the ranks of new discontinued GPS owners. I got my 760 (upgraded from an old Quest) last month, but I'm happy with it, and don't anticipate looking for anything new anytime soon.

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The Moose Is Loose! nuvi 760

It's Okay

gfleet wrote:

I just bought one and today I was on their website and saw it was discontinued. A bit disheartening.

I bought a Nuvi 350 a couple months ago, and it has been discontinued for a couple years. I had one that I sold, then bought a 750, which I gave to my son, then bought another 350. To me, the 350 is the best little GPS ever made. Garmin still honors the warranty, and will provide map update support, so who cares if it is discontinued. BTW, the first Nuvi 350 cost me $673.00 at SAMS Club.

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"Sometimes, when I look at my children, I wish I had remained a virgin". Lillian Carter (Mother of Jimmy Carter)

Discontinued MOdels

It does seem like they are adding and discontinuing models very, very frequently.

Garmin has taken the path to making the GPS units "Disposible" or throw-away items like some TV's and cell phones.

After a year or two, if they break, it's often cheaper to throw them away and get a new one.

But I have invested in the Lifetime Maps for all my units, so I hope they last for a couple more years until I reach my "Break even" point for the maps.

Tim

Basic phone

daqddyo1 wrote:

It is like what has happened to cell phones. Two weeks ago I had to replace my ancient cell phone and I stupidly asked for a new phone that would place calls and take calls.

Isn't this why they make the Jitterbug? Pretty much Send and Receive without the dial.

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Nuvi 750

Disappointed but not surprised.... maybe an opportunity for some

Having been a Garmin user seemingly forever, and given Garmins past product history the 7x0 were surely approaching end of supported life and I thought the recent price drops indicated that pretty well so i'm not surprised. The flood of new models was also a good indicator.

The good news... You can go on-line get a 750 for $180 or a 760 for $215. That's great value and tough price to beat (refurbs are even cheaper) if your in the market for a good value in decent GPS. e.g. .... www.compuplus.com

What disappoints me is now that they are discontinued, we've probably seen the last firmware update we're ever going to get yet I feel it's still got significant bugs. I guess Garmin is happy though and feel they've served their customers adequately. oh well... I didn't vote for it !!!

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Frank, MA.

Do not agree....

Frank508 wrote:

What disappoints me is now that they are discontinued, we've probably seen the last firmware update we're ever going to get yet I feel it's still got significant bugs. I guess Garmin is happy though and feel they've served their customers adequately. oh well... I didn't vote for it !!!

Frank - as I said in an earlier post, the Nuvi 350 is still supported with firmware upgrades, and it has been discontinued for a couple years. Fret not, my friend, Garmin will continue to support you with firmware, and map upgrades.

Cheers.......... Joel

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"Sometimes, when I look at my children, I wish I had remained a virgin". Lillian Carter (Mother of Jimmy Carter)

It didn't make sense to me

It didn't make sense to me that they even kept the 2x0w for so long after the 2x5w was released. I was expecting the 2x5 to immediately replace the 2x0 series as the 2x5 is much nicer imo. Every day, I'm excited for instant satellite fix, whereas I'd sometimes wait for 2-3 minutes with my old 200w.

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Are you all this disapointed by the 05 series to complain for the discontinuation of of 00...?

I never tried Tom Tom, are they ahead of the 05 series with their new line?

Why The Disappointment?

I'm not sure I understand the disappointment.

I hope I don't get a lot of flames for this, but:

Electronics are constantly being upgraded, and the older models discontinued.

Because a GPS you have is discontinued is it any less valuable a product to you? I think not. It will work just as well as it always did. Did you really think your GPSr would stay in the current model lineup for years? Would you rather not have the manufacturers come out with upgraded models as long as yours stays current?

I have one of the last Pentium 4 computers. It was obsolete shortly after I bought it. I still like it and have upgraded the video card, memory, etc. There are some new games that require a Core2 Duo to play, but oh well. It's still valuable to me and I know when I finally replace it, it's going to be a major pain to transfer all my stuff and get used to the new one.

I also bought a 1080p rear-projection tv a few years ago. There are barely any rear-projection sets being sold anymore, but it has a great picture, was a good value (a lot more expensive back then though), and until it goes out would not replace it with any flat screen on the market right now.

These products are still being supported, they are not less valuable-the only time you may take a hit is when you sell it used.

I am glad my first computer an 8088 with 256 kb RAM and a whopping 20MB hard drive is not still a current model and there has been constant development of the product.

I am also glad that my first GPS a non-mapping handheld with barely any functions is obsolete and now they have models like the Garmin Colorado and DeLorme PNS-40.

I don't think it's so bad that the product cycles are so short and that electronics are being constantly upgraded....it's progress.

Disappointed Because the 7x5 Models Are Not "Upgrades"

I personally don't consider the 7x5 models an "upgrade" over the 7x0 models. Especially considering the 7x5 models cost several hundred dollars more than the 7x0 models.

Hey, I'm Happy

Upgrades or no, I'm still very satisfied with my "old" 260W. If I were in the market for a new one, there's a lot to choose from in the current Garmin lineup. But my GPS still works fine (it's not quite a year old) and it does exactly what I bought it for, so I'm not in the market--yet.

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Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav

Bought a refurbished Nuvi 370 for $130

Moose135 wrote:
daqddyo1 wrote:

My new phone does more than I could ever want. It even take lousy pictures!

Hey, I don't need a phone to take lousy pictures, I have several thousands of dollars worth of DSLRs and related equipment that I can take lousy pictures with! Actually, I know how you feel - I went through that a couple of years ago when I got my current phone. And yes, for the most part all it does is make and receive calls.

Add me to the ranks of new discontinued GPS owners. I got my 760 (upgraded from an old Quest) last month, but I'm happy with it, and don't anticipate looking for anything new anytime soon.

This is so true

clint45 wrote:

My 660 still works very well for me and until they come out with a feature that just knocks my socks off, I'll be hanging onto it.

I have the 660 and it is a great unit..and seeing the Tests at GPS magazine the 660 has a better signal than the 760. I did just buy a 760...got mine for 211 at amazon..it has its pluses. It is thinner..and has routes...

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Dave_ Nuvi 660 , 760,1490LMT Wooster, Ohio

Thats the way it works,

Thats the way it works, everytime I buy something it is already outdated by the time I get it home.
It is impossible to keep up!!!
David

Garmin discontinued models.

Now my 680 seems ancient. My 2720 isn't worth the space it takes in my drawer.

My 260 is more than a year old...

... but it still works great. I have no intention of changing it until it dies. I don't have a "feature rich" cell phone. It works as a phone, and that's what I want from it. My Nuvi works great as a GPS navigator, and that's all I want from it. Even my PC is more than 6 years old, but with RAM additions and an updated video card, it still works for everything I need a computer for so I'm not replacing it for a while yet either, especially since I've no interest in getting stuck with Vista. I may have to go custom and install my old XP (the best OS since DOS) on it when the time does come, if MS hasn't gotten their OS problems figured out yet by then.

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Rick - Nüvi 260 - eTrex Summit HC

760

I'm really wrestling with this

I dont want to spend a ton of $$

the 760 seems like a very solid unit .. inspite of being discont.

I tried a 255 but HATE the lousy touch screen .. it seems like it would always pick random letters somtimes quite a distance from where my finger pressed

Why Change?

When I was in the market for a GPS I did a lot of research and finally found the Nuvi 260. It does everything I need just fine so untill it finally gives up the ghost I will stick with it.Untill then I will keep track of all the latest updates and features on the new models (thanks to POI factory)and when the time comes to replace it, do the research again.

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Nuvi2797LMT (2) Nuvi260,Ford Sync3 Navigation. Captain Cook was a Yorkshire man too.

I have a 760

bruce325xi wrote:

I'm really wrestling with this

I dont want to spend a ton of $$

the 760 seems like a very solid unit .. inspite of being discont.

I tried a 255 but HATE the lousy touch screen .. it seems like it would always pick random letters somtimes quite a distance from where my finger pressed

I just got a 760 about a month ago (it was an upgrade from a 4 year old Quest), and I'm very satisfied with it so far. To me, the wide screen makes a big difference.

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The Moose Is Loose! nuvi 760

How much has nuvi 750 dropped in price?

Has anyone taken a look at how much the nuvi 750 has dropped in price since the discontinuance? I love my 750 and I'm curious how much of a bargain it has become over the newer models now that it has the curse of the 'Big D'!

Bob

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Garmin 2595LMT, Garmin 750, Garmin 780, Garmin 76Csx, GPS Bluetooth receiver for laptop

Reverse curve

I think most of the discounting is already in the pipeline. Sometimes discontinued items have a reverse pricing curve as they get scarcer, though it's probably a bit early for that yet, there appear to be plenty of 7x0's still around.

Disappointed

I also feel there are lots of bugs in the 760 that should have been corrected before being discontinued. After seeing the sluggishness and other problems reported on the 7x5 series I'm going to wait for the next lineup.

As long as Garmin continues their restrictive policies on map upgrades and transfers I won't be upgrading every time they put out a new model as I had done in the past.

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