How do I remove Eco route?

I'm not sure that you can, but I'm also wondering what is leading you to want to remove it?

It's embedded in the nuvi's operating system when you update it's firmware.

why not just choose Fastest Time or Shortest Distance as before, and not display the Challenge "game"?

maybe I have missed something in another post, where it has been stated that ecoRoute is causing issues...if so, can someone please restate them?

It is routing me around major expressways even when I am not using it. I did the update from 2.70 to 2.80 and it appeared in my nuvi. See this post:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/20303

The same thing seems to be happening to me -- I have tried all setting changes, but cannot get the nuvi to use the major expressway...

Using the less fuel and traffic avoidance for route back to VA from FL.It routed me off the interstates I usually take.

Changed the settings to fastest route with traffic avoidance it put me back on the interstates.

Reviewing the less fuel option route for my trip back to VA I will use the fastest route.I can only vision changes in speed limits,red lights and heavy traffic in the towns you would pass through using less fuel.It may come in handy to get off and explore certain areas.

Eco route is nothing more then a toy, it has no real value to the user. The GPS doesn't have enough variables to determine an accurate MPG for you vehicle.

Thanks for the info. I was looking for it to put on my Garmin after hearing about it on CNET. Maybe I won't now, though.

Thanks, charlesd45 - I'll give it a try later.

no, it didn't work

You had better call Garmin.Something is not right.I guess you tried the reset by holding the reset button a few seconds located at the buttom of the Nuvi?

yes - they told me that the reset option is to hold your finger at the bottom right of the screen while powering on. Spoke with technical support for the second time this morning. They said that it was a bug and that he would do what he could to report it and that I should report it on the Garmin map bug site. It doesn't avoid all highways, but definitely routes me differently not using the expressway for one of my more commonly used routes (for which it did route me to the expressway before).

Report your Garmin bugs - it helps!

I emailed Garmin after reading your last post about not using the express way and about a possible problem with the program.This was the answer I received back.

I'm not aware of this being a "glitch" or problem with the programming.
As studies in the past have shown, you will get the best fuel economy
when consistently traveling around 55 miles per hour. Because the
majority of Interstates within the US have a posted speed limit of
65-70, the "Save Fuel" option is going to prefer those routes that keep
you closer to the 50-55 mph range to help conserve fuel as much as
possible based on the mileage and speed limit data the unit has for the
roads used. Most drivers are going to prefer using the highways due to
the faster traveling times and (generally) shorter mileage. However,
based on speed limits, the slightly shorter mileage may not outweigh the
slower, more fuel-conserving speed limits of non-Interstates. For the
driver who still wants to conserve fuel while driving on the Interstates
(especially for interstate travel), it may be ideal to use the standard
route preference settings ("shorter distance" and "faster time") while
utilizing cruise control to maintain a speed that hits closer to the
55mph mark than the posted 65-70 speed limits.

With Best Regards,

Joshua K
Product Support Specialist
2nd Shift Automotive Team
Garmin International

eco route is wasting gas. how ironic.

This seems to me to be a flaw in the EcoRoute programming. Unless they add stop lights to the map data, they would be missing one of the most important considerations for fuel economy - starts and stops. Maybe it's actually there and our existing units don't make any use of that info?

I guess we just have to see how it pans out in reality when we get enough users out there testing the EcoRoute function.

I can see some uses for the program.Like one user stated his mpg he compared are pretty close.I found the same thing on my mileage around town compared to my own record with eco route.Their are people who prefer not to drive on the interstates me not being one of them.I do like the fuel and mileage reports.

Can you tell where I can find "Save Fuel" options?
My garmin is 265WT and I didn't see any new options under 'Avoidance'.

Btw, I love the EcoRoute features and the driving challenge

Make sure you have used webupdater to get the 4.80 release.Then go to tools and you will see the icon for ecoRoute.Touch icon for all the screens.You will find less fuel setting by touching tools,settings,navigation then touch route preference setting to select less fuel.

Eco route has no effect at all if I am not using it. It does not interfere what any of the routes I have always used on my 765T unless I actually use it. I have to believe there is something else going on if your routes are affected as you say even when not using Eco route. The post you refer to seems to only talks about being directed around highways when using Eco route.

You don't accidentally have your Nuvi set for Bicycle or Pedestrian or something like that, do you?

Hi John,

No, I don't. Ever since I've done my update, it has been doing all sorts of routing craziness.

I am looking to roll back the software version if I can get a hold of an earlier version that was originally on my nuvi 205w.

There's no way this Eco Route thingy can accurately calculate your cars MPG usage. If you want something accurate, try a Scan Gauge.

Like another poster said, there's too many variables. Acceleration, Throttle positioning, coasting, etc...

It still sounds like a cool feature though, and if it saves people some Oil, then go for it. I've been aggressively trying to beat the oil companies since last march, and have saved a ton of cash by doing so. Its all in how you drive. 40MPG on a Corolla is not impossible. It's very possible.

Too bad it's causing strange routing. That's the last thing it should do. Eco-route should not affect routing if it's turned off.

Hope you get it fixed.

I had the GPS plot the "most fuel efficient" route and did not like what it did. As others have mentioned, it favored roads with speed limits around 50mph. For me it was 100% on surface streets and expressways (that have stop lights). I would think that any benefit to be gained from the lower speeds would be erased by the traffic lights. I won't be using it.

That said, even though I'm using "fastest" as routing preference, I have noticed that the routing has changed since updating from 4.60 to 4.80 on my 265wt. I don't know if it's related to "Eco-Route" or is a change in the base routing algorithm.
If you really don't like the "new" routing, your only option may be to go back to the previous firmware release...if possible.

Yeah - I upgraded too. If anyone has a link to 4.60, I would appreciate it. I am pretty sure that the routing algorithm for the upgrade 4.80, has changed things a bit.

The only thing other than reverting that I can recommend is complaining to Garmin. It's worth the phone call if they can resolve this and get it fixed for the next update. I've already called twice. We need more people to complain so they figure out what's wrong...

Here is the link to the v4.60 version of the nuvi 2x5 firmware. Use it at your own risk. It will backdate your firmware from it's current version to the previous v4.60 which did not have ecoRoute embedded into the nuvi OS (it will give you notification that you are about to do so & ask if you really want to do it).

Download the file to your PC, rename it to GUPDATE.GCD and copy it to your nuvi drive into the x:/Garmin folder. Safely disconnect your nuvi from your PC and allow it to reboot. The firmware update (actually backdate in this case) should occur.

Also, please contact Garmin regarding the problems you're having to get them resolved ASAP.

http://www.garmin.com/software/nuvi2x5_regionfileonly__460.g...

Thanks Dorkus!

I really appreciate the link and instructions for using it!

I did contact Garmin... looks like if enough people complain, maybe we'll see the fixes in version 4.90.

Just for anyone else out there who might be having problems, besides not using the highways, my Garmin is retracing routes past the destination and overshooting the destination.
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nuvi205w

Does selecting traffic avoidance matter if I am not using traffice receiver ? I dont have traffic subscription or the receiver and was wondering if selecting "Avoid Traffic" will route me differently.
I am using Faster time setting with U-Turn and Traffic selected in Avoidance.

Thanks.
DL

just powering up isn't working... is there a particular combination of power button and something else I need to use to make it install the old software?

1. You renamed the file that you downloaded from the link to GUPDATE.GCD

2. You copied the downloaded/renamed file GUPDATE.GCD to the nuvi's internal drive into the x:/Garmin folder

3. You rebooted the nuvi without it being connected to the USB port.

If this is not working for you, it may be that Garmin is preventing the backdating of the unit somehow within it's current firmware version. They have been known to do this in the past where a firmware backdate may have ill-effects on the unit. If this is the case, your best bet is to wait for an official fix from Garmin or call them to ask if it's even possible to backdate from the your current version to an earlier version without ecoRoute.

Yes, I did all of that. This seems to be the case...

I asked Garmin that question about if not using traffic receiver would it make any difference in checking avoid traffic.This was the answer.

Thank you for contacting Garmin International. Without a traffic receiver it does not matter if that preference is checked or not.

With Best Regards,
Michael C
PRoduct Support Specialist

Thanks for the response.
DL

Thanks for the info

In regards to DorkusNimrod's post on GUPDATE.GCD. It seems that this is the proper procedure for rolling back software on the nuvi 205w.

However, it wasn't working with v4.60... I obtained a copy of 4.70, and it worked like a charm.

It's seems that 4.60 was the problem. At any rate, I'm happy just not having to deal with 4.80 anymore. Waiting for the engineers to roll out an improved 4.90.

I have to say that Garmin tech support is tops! Hope it stays that way, because everyone I spoke with over there was helpful and based in the USA.

On based in the US! Thank you Garmin!
Bojo360

ever since i downloaded the firm ware with ecoroute in it my gps isnt the same it takes me way different routes than what it used to no matter what setting i have it on ,i will be resetting my nuvi to its natural state even though i will have to reload everything i put into it.thanks alot garmin!

See the posts above from myself & m_wolf1 above. You can solve the problem by backdating your firmware to v4.70 but sadly, that firmware version is not available on the Garmin server. You may want to contact m_wolf1 and see he can help you out with obtaining the v4.70 file since he apparently got it and backdated his unit, thus fixing the issues he was having which correspond to yours.

Or you can contact Garmin to get the previous v4.70 firmware file.

I have a Nuvi 255W. I was wondering which Nuvi units use the same firmware as I cannot find a list with the Nuvi 255W model.

Here is a website with the different Firmware versions.

http://www.gpsinformation.org/perry/agree.html

how do you get rid of 4.80 ecoroute i am having nothing but problems with it since i downloaded it i was tol d talk to you cuz you have done it before i just want the factory version it came with,thanks

You backdate the firmware as described by my posts above. But it was reported by m_wolf1 that the unit would not backdate using v4.60 which I gave the link to. You have to backdate to v4.70 instead which is not available from the Garmin server that I know of. You'd need to use v4.70 which m_wolf1 likely got direct from Garmin. If you can get ahold of that file, just follow the instructions I posted above.

Or call Garmin & they may be able to supply it for you along with instructions.

Seems weird that Garmin calls it a driving challange, they should call it a speed challange, since it is only tied to your speed. However, i do love the milage report, great for seeing how long it takes for you to get to work and back. I

I have also noticed that the screen refresh rate, seems to have slowed down, or maybe better described as it freezes shortly every once in a while, not all the time.

How hard can it be to get software right?

I turned off the driving challenge because I suspect it uses a significant percentage of the processor's capacity. I hope my refresh rate will be what is was before the update.

I followed your instructions and my 255 backdated to 4.60, no problem. And I am extremely grateful for your help getting rid of this Ecoroute nonsense. Thank you!

I find it strange that it would route off the interstates, since highway driving fuel economy is normally better than city driving.

Highway driving at steady speed gets better fuel economy than city driving. Every braking event robs the car of its kinetic energy. To regain that energy consumes lots of gasoline. City driving, with its stops and starts uses much more gasoline than on unrestricted highways.
However, interstate speeds being much higher than on regular highways means that the air friction levels are much higher on interstates. So, Garmin logically keeps you off the interstates to save gas. The flaw in this is that non-interstate highways go through towns and cities where the slowing down, stops and starts rob you of any fuel savings that might have been built up driving at 50 mph rather than 70 mph.

Note: air friction level varies as the square of the speed so that air friction at 70 mph is almost exactly 4 times that at a speed of 50 mph.

Interesting discussion. I note that according to the Garmin site, EcoRoute is not available for my Nuvi 750. Yeah, I guess.

I have noticed that the refresh rate is slower after updating my unit to latest version(4.80). I have also noticed that it is taking longer to acquire satellite. Is Garmin aware of this issue ? Are they doing anything about it?

PS. Even though I have EcoRoute, I am not using it anymore. I am using Fastest Route.

I agree, I noticed this too.