Get ready to drown in ads

My 660 and 680 work great, but it's so sad -- they aren't "compatible" with the "ad-supported" navgation...

To allow popup ads on my GPSr they better give me the entire unit for free...

who cares about stupid ads, I heard that ads dont come up while driving, or on map, only the other screens, boohoo....go complain about television commercials

I own Garmin Nuvi 265WT and have LifeTime Traffic on it. I have encountered Ads when I use Traffic feature, but the ads are not at all disturbing. These ads are one liners!

They are not Pop Up Ads, and so the Free Unit Idea does not hold.. Sorry! And to be honest, these GPS is even more expensive than 6x0 and 7x0 series.....

Anyone who thinks the ads today are unobtrusive, with low frequency and that this isn't going to change is ignoring reality.

They are going to be a revenue source and the more ads the unit can push on you, the more money the company offering the "services" makes. When was the last time you saw a newspaper that had no ads? No ads on radio? Nope. TV? Not even on PBS...

How about internet sites?
Poi-factory is one of the few sites that has no advertising and I'm absolutely amazed by that! And for one, I am extremely thankful for it too.

Years ago people laughed at the thought at wearing a company logo unless they worked for that company. Now everywhere you go people wear corporate logos and these idiots actual pay extra just for the honor of using their bodies to advertise for their 'favorite' companies.

Free units? Of course not. I was being facetious. At some point that "lifetime" offer will change to - pay for the service AND get ads... Just wait...

I agree 100% with rocknicehunter. I predict by January 2010 people will be moaning about how many ads are on the Garmin units.

I would not want any part of the advertisement to my unit. Even though I have unlimited data for my phone, I refuse to exchange inaccurate traffic data for spam period.

Jeff

what is so horrible about ads, do newspaper ads piss you off. what would be SO BAD about ignoring some ads if they were on the site, ads are all around us, bt who really cares, Aids, crime, racism is around us all those are far worse.

second note, the units are, wont be free, but it DOES help bring down the price.

I think it would be neat to offer different options with, without ads, and see the price difference, and see which ones people will buy.

traffic sucks, ads i can live with, and happily ignore. most people wont even remember how many of WHAT ads they saw today.

and if they do, then the ad did its job lol

I found the same thing.Just one liners no pop ups. My own experience has been very few ads and you have to look close to see them.You do have the option to touch the ad to get more information and you can write a number down to present for a discount for certain ads.I think you need to try it to see what it really does.No way you can compare this to a TV commercial.

yes with the coupons the ads come in handy im all for more, it doesnt effect the navigation,.

Hi,
I originally opted against the traffic option because I could not figure out the cost. So I went with the 255W. If I would be willing to put up with the ads to get free lifetime traffic, which antenna would I buy? Can anybody tell me the part number?

Thanks,
revengineer

Not yet anyway, but you can bet these are just feelers, if they get away with it they will take a mile farther down the road, with no pun intended.

i can see it in the future Garmin Nuvi xxxAd

featuring navigational/map opportunities between advertisements.

is this really what people are afraid of.

or 50% screen ads?

Newspapers had ads for years.
Magazines are 90% ads.
so what?

want me to rip out all the ads and give you a 5 page newspaper, would that make the world a better place.
Will it make your life easier, less stressfull.

oh the problems in the world, forget about war in the middle east, we have to deal with these dam ads.

you go ahead and pay 1000 for a gps, ill take the 800 dollar one with ads thank you very much

Almost. How about as you are driving by a location an ad automatically pops up on the screen for 10-15 seconds. Or worse, you get an audio commercial which automatically plays every time you drive within 1 mile of a sponsor. Can you imagine your Garmin playing an audio ad every five minutes. And the only way to "disable" it is to mute the sound.

I guarantee you these ideas are being disussed at Garmin & NavTeq.

From
http://gizmodo.com/5045856/garmins-free-lifetime-traffic-ale...

"When you access the traffic menu, one of these advertiser's names always appears at the bottom of the screen. Also, from time to time, one of these ads will pop up on the map view screen (they won't appear when you are in motion"

life balances out, if it gets out of hand, people will buy other brands, if they follow, someone else will break through, and undercut the competition, good thing there's no monopoly.

Im sure people that run garmin are pretty intelegent, I dont think theyll rn the company into the ground

I see there is no faith in garmin on this board, what a shame

Go to http://www.gpsmagazine.com/2008/11/garmin_nuvi_265wt_review.... and click on 10 .It will give a better review of just how the free traffic works.

thanks nice find

its not a part number. they generate a custom map id unlock code with a 4097 date code for the traffic receiver. basically the ads are built into the xx5 units and not in the traffic RX. you can get a bog standard 760 with lifetime traffic and no ads. its a crock of sh*t.

This is just crazy everwhere we go there are ads,,I have devo so I dont' have to waste time watching ads I have an ipod so I don't listen to the radio ads, now ads on my GPS that would suck, so I say NO TO ADS ON GPS

This is where I argue: Why so much agains ads on lifetime traffic tools.

Look at this link: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/tires-auto-parts/aut...

Second picture shows the Ad on the GPS. And it does not obscure your view by any means!! And no, it does not pop up at any time, only when you turn on the Traffic (for few seconds).

Hope this helps!

General Comment

Juno offers a "free" email account - you get ads at the bottom of each mail. Their paid account is supposed to be free. The same with other "free" email account providers - you get free accounts, you get ads. You pay for premium service and you're not supposed to get ads.

You watch PBS (Public Broadcasting tv) and it was commercial free - they just had donor and membership drives periodically to pay for the shows / network.

That should be the same with this - you want the "free" lifetime traffic, you'll get ads. Pay for a membership service, and you shouldn't get ads.

The problem with this is that many email providers offering paid accounts, you now get ads with those emails. The PBS Television networks now air regular commercials during / between each show, and still have their membership drives.

I know that there are a lot more details behind the scenes, but public and customer peception means a lot.

So, while I don't really have a problem receiving ads with a lifetime membership, I can certainly see the points of others that in time, they can and most likely will be imposed on more.

I do intentially avoid any product or service for any company where pop-up ads appear automatically, ESPECIALLY those accompanied by audio tracks, when arriving on web sites. Not much, but makes me happy.

Didn't I originally subscribe to cable for the TV because they promised 100 channels of non network origin without advertising? I'm still looking for one of those channels. The cable network seems to have more (and worse) ads than the major broadcast channels. I now subscribe to Tivo for the express purpose of fast forward through the recorded ads. I have no idea what lies ahead for traffic advertising, but I would guess that for more money you will get less advertising, but only for awhile.

rocknicehunter wrote that "Years ago people laughed at the thought at wearing a company logo unless they worked for that company. Now everywhere you go people wear corporate logos and these idiots actual pay extra just for the honor of using their bodies to advertise for their 'favorite' companies."

I subscribe to the idea that all of our congressmen should be required to wear the logos so that we would know who their corporate sponsors are.

Do not know what all the wailing and gnashing of teeth is about, nothing is truly free but somethings are a value anyway. Nobody is forcing ads down our throats If you do not want ads the answer is simple throw out the Navteq traffic receiver and either layout $120 for a MSN receiver and another $50 a year for the service or $215 for a GTM receiver and $120 a year for the service, and get no ads but for that cost I could probally put up with ads. BTW I have had a 765t for the last couple of months and have only seen the ads a couple of times so not all that intrusive.

But it's not like you're going to have a choice of either paying for an advertisement free subscription or get traffic with advertisements for free. I'm sure they will find some way to charge you for the service, but still deliver advertisements. It will likely be an overt charge, but even if it isn't it will be something rolled into the price of the unit, like paying for lifetime traffic in the price of the receiver, or that otherwise forces you to pay up if you want traffic information.

"oh, that unit that you just bought the lifetime maps service for is two years old, it doesn't support the newest whizz-bang advertisement "features". I'm sorry, but if you want traffic you're going to have to buy a new current supported GPS".

I have no problem with that, but it also supports my point; They are being paid by those companies, so shouldn't have any problems wearing those logos...

I have to laugh at a number of the comments here so far.

The thought that your unit is going to be cheaper because of the ads. Doubtful. In the future you'll pay the same, pay for the traffic service AND get ads

That the ads are unobtrusive today, so they always will be... HA!

That you can just switch to another manufacturer. Other manufactures will soon see the revenue streams Garmin has that they don't and will provide this same "service".

"You get what you pay for."
Not always and less & less each year. As a tax payer in the US, I helped pay for the GPS system. The US taxpayer provides access to the system to everyone in the world for free. You're welcome to everyone outside the US. You getting without paying...

That said I do think its good that we share the system for safety reasons.

I paid for my GPS receivers and have no problem with that. If I had wanted just another way for advertisers to put their ads in front of me I would have looked into getting that instead. In another cycle or two, all GPSrs will have ads, not just those with traffic. At that point you'll be paying for someone to send you advertising.

"What's the problem with ads?"
"Go complain about ads on TV"
You think I don't? Hour long TV programs used to run about 53 minutes not including commercials. It the dropped to the high 40s and is now the low 40s, and that doesn't include all the product placement IN the program.

I could go on, but I have been ranting too much on this already. Ads on all GPSr is inevitable. Much more obtrusive ads are inevitable...

The boy pointing out the cracks in the dike and being told "It's just a small drip. What's the problem?" is inevitable too I guess.

What a shame such a great technology is going to be turned into yet another advertising venue and so many users don't mind...

Spam is spam no matter how it arrives.

Advertisers are not going to waste money on media that does not produce customers. Navigon started this advertiser supported traffic and if it wasn't working then Garmin would not have introduced it and advertisers would not be buying space.

Like it or not (I don't) this is the way the world is going. You think ads popping up on your GPS is intrusive wait until you see what they have planned for your cellphone. It will be used to provide "Minority Report" type personalized ads in airports, city streets etc....., as long as it gets results there is little or nothing we can do about it.

Remember the the X-10 Spy Camera? It was the first product I remember using mass pop ups to advertise to internet users. I got so fed up with it and vowed never to buy anything from the company, apperantly I was in the minority and they sold millions and proved that even intrusive in your face advertising sells product. It didn't kill the internet or drive away users. It could be argued that the internet would not be nearly as useful as there would be fewer sites.

You will not see ads on GPS units until more of them are developed like the Dash express, connected to the internet through the cellular systems. They would offer free or reduced cost service for the online service while offering up ads, some based on where you are near and most not. Ads would only play where you are not on a route or on a route and at least 10 minutes from your next turn.

How many ads could you put up with for full internet connectivity from a GPS receiver or how much woudl you pay to get it ad free?

An article on Slashot posted about an hour ago announces:
Lexus To Start Spamming Car Buyers In Their Cars
They are going to be doing it with audio. Here's the link:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/08/2038216

It's good to have all that money to spend on a Lexus and be targeted for advertising. Maybe Bentleys will start coming with their own private pitchman.

My "Just Wait" was a lot shorter than I expected!

i dont worry about things that dont exist. I dont use traffic, so i say MORE ADS for traffic.

Oh you say in a matter of time ads will come to GPS units.

HA! I love my life, and can n ot be bothered with negativity. I have my gps and no ads, im loving life. im healthy, i have nothing to complain about.

The war pisses me off, ill trade millions of ads, in exchange for peace anyday.

also health, and health of my family.

People seem like the nagging old lady that didnt want children to have fun, and enjoy life, jst wants everyone to be miserable like them.

and instead of being lazy and complaining online. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

DONT buy another product, or subscribe to services.

That is how your voice is really heard, but to say im disapointed, and will not buy garmin again, only to get the next new one, is pointless.

Its all about money, not hearsay, opinions.

zurk: thanks for the info. revengineer

What's funny to me here is how many people (not just here, but in general and all over) feel the need to predict a certain future. For what purpose? Apparently, in the hopes they can be right about it. If so, they get to say, "I told you so." Nice.

Personally, a crystal ball didn't help me buy a GPS for my wife. For Christmas, and by surprise, I gave her our first GPS: a Garmin nuvi 265T. I picked it out for its features; I wanted: text-to-speech, NOT wide (for portability), traffic info, and VERY affordable ($200 was pushing it for me).

I had no bias for or against any brand. The ONLY GPS I could find with all of these features, that also rated well with web-raters and ConsumerReports, was the one I got.

I looked at other Garmins and TomToms and other brands with all of my sought after features, but when you added the cost of the traffic subscription over time, it was not a good investment IMHO. I'd have to give up on the traffic feature or buy one with free traffic and ads.

So now we own a GPS, without sacrificing the traffic feature because that came free with completely unobtrusive ads, which made it affordable. And my wife loves it! This was a good investment IMHO. That's all that matters.

So, if the doom and gloom all above actually unfolds in the future, when I go to purchase my next GPS, I will again assess the features I want at that time(including the obtrusiveness of the ads in that future), and decide based on overall value again. If the ads are too obtrusive, I won't buy it.

In the meantime, we are thoroughly enjoying our purchase in the now. And I'll leave those who enjoy their prognosticating to follow their dreams.

I kind of agree with you. I don't think I would care much about ads on my GPSr. Especially if this would bring down the price of the units and/or give me lifetime to traffic.

.. just try watching a tv show anymore without so-called 'bottom-third' ads cropping up all the time ... everything nowadays is 'brought to you by' somebody ... if unsolicited advertisements were to start showing up in my GPSr, I am afraid someone would find my device laying alongside the road. It's bad enough the satellite radio I pay $12.95 a month for has commercials ... I don't need them on my Garmin as well ...

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it's the dog's fault

I agree that I would rather not see ads. I would rather not pay bills, have to work, have to deal with traffic, loved ones shouldn't die...

I've got a 765t, love it & one of the reasons I bought it was the ad supported traffic. The ads are rare & unobtrusive but if they really bothered me I could use a different adapter plug which would eliminate them as well as traffic. I could also pay for the non-ad supported traffic or buy different unit.

Since we're all predicting, I predict people will complain, object & moan but when it comes down to it, they'll buy these units because they can put up with ads for added service. It's just like when a Walmart comes to town, people don't want them around, they say that they push out local Mom & Pop stores, etc. yet they prosper because people like the bargains. I personally don't like shopping there but that's my choice & I don't try to take that choice away from others just because I disagree with them.

What's great about our country is that we're free. We can turn off the television, radio, or put down the paper if we don't like their content. I love having a GPS but if it got really bad I could do without it as I had for the last 40 some odd years.

With a 7x5t, you get free FM traffic with ads.

With a 7x5, you pay for the FM traffic, but without ads (presumably).

Does anyone know if a 7x5t gives you an option of paying for the ad-free FM traffic service?

As I understand it you've got a few options, you can purchase the MSN service or pay, I think I heard it was $60 per year for the Clear Channel service. Neither has ads (at least as I wright this.. they're listening. I just know it.)

If there was NO such thing as ADS, you all would be stuck in the 16th centrury living like cave men. We get most of our info about cars from ads. who would go to EVERY dealer to find out about EVERY car when making a decision.

WHO would want to PAY to use each website. ALOT are supported by ads.

The same people who complain about ads, seem like the same people who complain about loud music.

If the worst thing in the world is ADS, ill take it.

I say, there should be a NO ADS CULT. drink the cool aid and start an AD free life on another planet.

Oh and here's an AD for YOU. BUY COLGATE TOOTHPASTE!!!! its MINTY CLEAN!!!

OH MAN THIS SITE IS DOWN THE DRAIN NOW!!!!!!!!
END OF THE WORLD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

DAM YAHOO!!
I was checking my mail, and a HALF page AD for ADVIL popped up.
The world is over, the internet has gone down the whole.
ADS on FREE EMAIL, whats next?
When my first child is born the Doctor will first do a song and dance advertising the hospital.
if i see another ad i will scream!!! life sucks, if i see another ad i should find an ad for a gun and by one. NO wait, ill just complain here like everyone else.
ADS ars so bad man, I will TERMINATE my YAHOO EMAIL IMMEDIATLY!
Now what should i use for free email. I KNOW ILL CHECK SOME ADS!!!!!!

IM just kidding, im a very happy person who loves life and hopping bunnies, with ADS for skittles on their bum, instead of raining candy, its raining M&M's.
Dam product placement.
In a sense, did you ever think that a garmin message board, is in a sense a FREE AD for GARMIN. but its ok because garmin didnt have to pay for it.

by the way the ADVIL AD in my free yahoo email, which i use to store Usefull info, and emails for work, and personal use for YEARS!
I was able to SAVE $1 on ADVIL. pretty sweet.
Better than paying 20 a month for AOL. Old School.

Ok, I don't know anyone who really likes ads, but you don't have to suffer many if you don't want to.

TV - recorded to a PVR and the Chase Play and Commercial Skip buttons work great. Added bonus that an hour of their time comes down to 40 minutes of mine

Internet - Firefox+AdblockPlus+NoScript = Haven't seen an internet ad in years and I never, ever click on a link in a spam message (most of which are now pretty well filtered anyway).

Radio - either use the channel set button or, better yet play mp3's or podcasts.

I still hate ads, they're all basically marketroid lies anyway (who on earth would base a car buying decision on ads?!!!) but they can be cut to a minimum fairly painlessly

No need to rip out the pages, you see for years we had no choice Now we do.
And if you like you can go through your life blindfolded, if you notice newspapers are closing magazines have stopped print.

Why is that??

We have choices for our news, and people are not buying print! or watching Television ad's.
The reason is mainly the Internet and TIVO, I have both. I don't read ad's, popups or watch them on TV. And I am not going to buy a GPSr's that uses ad's to make money on me after they already made a profit on me.

if your willing to pay $800.00 for a gps??
you deserve what you get, I guess. including the ad's.

As far as the Middle East is concerned, I feel safer here in the USA, I don't worry that guy at the bus stop is going to blow me up. And over there get use to it, we are going to be there with a presence for a long long time.

My youngest went on the Qubo channel web site to fill out a questionaire (and be entered to win a gift card.)

His comments on what he doesn't like about the channel were almost a paragraph long, but consisted of one subject: "There are too many adult commercials on it." He went on to say about how kids don't need or like to watch the commercials about the Sham-Wow, the doorway power gym, and several other adult oriented products.

Gee, I can imagine the letters he'll be writing to companies when he's older.

> How about as you are driving by a location an
> ad automatically pops up on the screen ...

It does NOT work this way on my 765t.

The ads occassionaly appear ... and only when
you are stopped.

Ads do NOT disrupt/distract while in-motion.