USA Today Research: Red-light cameras work

 

Description of red-light Cameras

See website: http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/rlr.html
This also has a link to all of the states and cities employing red-light cameras.

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I like: "Michigan Attorney

I like:

"Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox ruled last month that cameras cannot be used to ticket drivers. Only police officers who witness violations can write tickets, he ruled."

and

"Aaron Quinn, communications manager for the Waunakee, Wis.-based National Motorists Association, which defends drivers' rights, is one of them. He says there are "more appropriate" ways to reduce red-light crashes, including having traffic lights at all corners of intersections show red for one second, creating a margin of error in case of red-light runners."

Cameras are out there for $$$, not safety.

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delta123 wrote:

Cameras are out there for $$$, not safety.

Correct. And that paper is a sham. There is a reason that most well informed people call it the McPaper.

Devil's Advocate

delta123 wrote:

Cameras are out there for $$$, not safety.

While I agree that money is going to be behind a lot of these camera installs, I still think that they are a good idea (despite cussing as I wrote a check for a ticket my wife got from one). Ten years ago in DC it was getting ridiculous, people were really just ignoring red lights. I remember following a car down 13th St, it ran at least 6 or 7 in a row, and I was seeing this sort of thing regularly. I'm not talking catching the tail end of the yellow, I'm talking full-on red. I ride a motorcycle, and I really don't want to get taken out by some moron who won't wait for green. Since the cameras came in, I don't see that sort of behavior anymore. Maybe in more law-abiding parts of the country they're a pure revenue grab, but I really see the need for them around here.

Use of Red Light Cameras

For the Devil's Advocate:
It all seems so simple. If safety really were the justification for these devices, then post signs or publish the locations of them when they are installed. Then the devices would be a deterrent to running red lights -- people wouldn't do it and all would be safer. But... when they are installed and used without notification, it's clearly for the money.

Devil's Advocate again

I think you could argue that it's more effective to put the cameras up with no signs. Most intersections don't actually have cameras but if you know that some might, and you're not sure which ones, you'll tend to be more careful at all intersections. Now, I grew up in DC, and I'm not saying that money is not a prime factor here, just that there is a case for them in addition to the revenue generation.

re: Devil's Advocate

B0bby wrote:

...money is not a prime factor here, just that there is a case for them in addition to the revenue generation.

more $$$ for what? this: http://www.njlawman.com/Feature%20Pieces/Dodge%20magnum.htm

do you think they really need a 5.7-liter HEMI V-8?

I already saw a few here, fully loaded. I even mistaken it as a show car.

OR, money to burn more gas? have you see a police turn off their engine before exiting their car? NONE. Free gas from where?

Signs

In my area I have seen signs at intersections with cameras. Not sure if it's a law.