Buffalo Wings (Mom & Pop) Project Discussion

Anchor Bar in Buffalo, NY is credited with originating the Buffalo wing ... guess you should start any wings list with this!

Anchor Bar
1047 Main Street
Buffalo, New York 14209

Another great wings joint, won many "best wings reviews" is :
Jeremiah's Tavern
1104 Monroe Ave
Rochester, NY 14620-1645

I love the idea of a Buffalo Wing POI. I just started my first POI file in here, "Mom & Pop Hamburger Joints" and it's not as bad as you would think. In a week I think I'm up around 37 locations. As long as people give you the Name, Address, Phone, Lon and Lat. you just copy and paste the info. I would open it up to all USA & Canada locations. I've been looking for a good wing place in the Phoenix area and haven't found it yet. As soon as I do I will be posting the info... Good Luck

Is this what you guys are chatting about?

Buffalo Wild Wings?
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/3684

I did find that site on the list. I opened it up and found it is a national chain. Many locations across the U.S. like Hooters.I got the idear from the Mom and Pop Hamburger site. Wings are becoming the offical snack food with Football and a HDTV.

I think pcatch and I are on the same page about small NON chain places again. I usually stay away from the chains. There are a lot of Bars, Pubs, and as the show of the Food Network, Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives that serve great Buffalo Wings. (And ofcourse Hamburgers for the Mom & Pop Burger Joints) Had to plug that. Maybe we can talk pcatch in doing his own or sister POI to the Wild Wing Chain.... Just a thought

Ok I am on the same page as you guys now;) Sorry

Miss POI

djs ... I went to school at RIT and the wings at Jeremiah's were so much better than Anchor's.

I do miss Nick Tahoes Garbage Plate

GO BILLS !!!

Are you talking about:
Jeremiah's Tavern
14 Mechanic St
Norwood, NY 13668
This was the only one that I could find by doing a search on line. Paul

First, let's go Giants!!

I, too, attended RIT ... in fact, I was there when my Giants beat the Bills in the Superbowl!

I get to Rochester for work occasionally and always try to make a Nick's run! I've eaten way to many garbage plates throughtout the years!!

Yes, Jeremiah's wings are much better! But Anchor Bar is a legend for the simple fact of being the original.

Am I to assume that you did not see the last Superbowl. I belive the Giants won. Nick Tahoes Garbage Plate, is that the name of a Resturant? Is in Rochester NY? I think that I need a little more info. By the way did I mention that I live MA. I was a big Giants fan till 1960 when we got the Pats. We were out played. You guys deserved the win last year. So lets get back to Wings

Nick Tahou Hots http://www.garbageplate.com/

Jeremiah's Tavern http://www.jeremiahstavern.com/

I too will contribute to the "Wings" palces that I have been acquainted with over the years.

I have about 20 Wing sites that I have put on my notepad and they have all the correct information.
I have also check with GPS visualizer so the name ,address, phone# and the Lat and Lon numbers are check twice.
My question is what do I do next? Will Miss POI send me a form so that I can transfer my info? Is it a templet that I could use for other things?

http://newenglandwings.com/

135 East Allen Street, Winooski, VT 05404-2218
802-655-3663

Latitude 44.491986
Longitude -73.181203

Coordinates
44.491986, -73.181203
N44°29.51916, W073°10.8721

Now you'll want to create a comma separated file (that is, each of the data elements in the file is separated by a comma) that looks like this:

-52.75416, 47.56025, "NLC Avalon Mall","48 Kenmount Road, St. John’s, NL 709-724-1265"

The elements are:
- longitude
- latitude
- Name/description
- address

That's an entry for a Newfoundland Liquor Commission outlet =)

Geoff

I understand the line and coma placement, but I still don't know where they go. When I open some POI files I see them in a spreadsheet and some are in wavey lines down the file. Also The line under the Coodinates Is the same as the Lat. Lon. lines but is on one line. The next line N44°29.51916, W073°10.8721 is different. Why? Are they the same? Thanks for your help....

Latitude 44.491986
Longitude -73.181203

Coordinates
44.491986, -73.181203
N44°29.51916, W073°10.8721

There are som many places in the Buffalo area that are better than the Anchor Bar. My favorites are Duff's in Amherst and Pizza Junction in North Tonawanda. Give me a couple days, and I'll get some WNY locations for you

Once you have all your entries coded correctly with the commas and quotes in a file with a .CSV extension, you use POILoader to transfer it to your gpsr. But I'm not sure I understand your question, so I'm not sure I've answered it!

The difference between 44.491986, -73.181203 and N44°29.51916, W073°10.8721 is that (and excuse my inexact terminology) the first entries are relative to the 0,0 point, whereas the 2nd set of entries are the degree/minute/second notation of the exact same coordinates. So N44 degrees 30 minutes would translate to 44.5. West of the 0,0 point is negative to -180, and east of the 0,0 point is positive to +180. North of 0,0 is positive, south is negative.

To take the location that I supplied, the entry in the wings.csv file would be

135 East Allen Street, Winooski, VT 05404-2218
802-655-3663

-73.181203, 44.491986, "New England Wings", "135 East Allen Street, Winooski, VT 05404-2218
802-655-3663"

If you open up the .csv file with, say, Excel, it should put each of those entries into their own cells. If you use a spreadsheet, don't forget to save as a .csv file.

You go to this page

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/add/poifile

to upload your POI file to the web site! =)

Geoff

I did what you said, I created a Excel file. When I went to name it "Great Buffalo Wings" and pressed Save As after I typed in the name and changed to a .csv file, a warning box pop up. Does not support wookbooks etc..... OK or Cancel. I press ok. Then another warning box pop up....May not contain features that are compatable with CSV....OK or Cancel. I hit OK. I typed in 2 wing locations in A1 & A2 to see if this would work. I hit save and it told me that it already exists. Saved it anyway, went to POI Loader to load my Garmin it found the "Wing .csv file" it tried to load it and said No Data Found. I am stumped.

As you can see I am lost( see above posts). You are the Master, I am getting very upset with myself. Is there a pre-made form that I can buy or find and just enter the information.

I can set you up with a file in the site database where you manually enter each location if you would like. Let me know and I will make it happen.

Miss POI

Locations
Atomic Wings
311 Broadway
(between Duane & Thomas)
New York, NY 10007
(212) 571-7667
Monday - Friday: 10 am to 10 pm
Saturday - Sunday: 11am to 10pm

Atomic Wings
528 9th Ave
(between 39th & 40th street)
New York, NY 10018
(212) 760-9090
Monday - Wednesday: 10 am to 10pm
Thursday - Saturday: 11am to 10:30pm

Atomic Wings @ The Blue Room
1140 Second Ave
(corner of 60th Street)
New York, NY 10021
(212) 888-5777
Monday - Tuesday: 10am to 12am
Thursday: 10am to 2am
Friday: 10am to 2am
Saturday: 11am to 2am
Sunday: 11am to 12am

Atomic Wings
184 First Ave
(between 11th & 12th street)
New York, NY 10009
(212) 505-7272
Monday - Sunday: 11am to 12am

Atomic Wings @ Down the Hatch
179 W 4th Street
(between 6th & 7th street)
New York, NY 10014
(212) 627-9500
Monday - Sunday: 12pm to 12am

Atomic Wings @ Bar Costal
1495 First Ave
(corner of 78th street)
New York, NY 10021
(212) 772-8400
Monday - Thursday: 11am to 12am
Friday - Saturday: 11am to 2am
Sunday: 11am - 2am

Atomic Wings @ Red Rock Roadhouse
1754 2nd Ave
(between 91st & 92nd)
New York, NY 10028
(212) 410-3800
COMING SOON

Jersey City
172 Newark Avenue
Jersey City, NJ

COMING SOON

I will take you up on your offer. I have been trying all different things and I did get it to work from my laptop to POI Loader to my 260. I would like to see the differance from my form to one made by an expert. Thanks,Paul

PS: Where do I find the site database?

By maintaining my own POI file it is overwhelming if you don't help out and send in the coord with your suggestion. PLEASE help by including the Long. and Lat. with the Name, Address and Phone when submitting. We don't want this to be pcatch's first and last time.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/12877

I just built this one for this project. Let me know if you need help navigating the system.

Attention Location Submitters
Please submit the Longitude and Latitude along with the other info so that the maintainers of these files are not doing more work then they should.

This is great, very easy to move around. Thanks Admin. for all you help.
Harpo66 you are right, without all the info. from the submitters it does take a lot of time. Paul

The best wings I've ever had in Westchester Co. NY.

Candlelight Inn
519 Central Park Ave
Scarsdale, NY 10583
(914) 472-9706
-73.81285,41.00402

Duff's

3651 Sheridan Dr
Amherst Twn, NY 14226
716-834-6234
N42.97933 W78.79940

3090 Orchard Park Rd
Buffalo, NY 14224
716-674-7212
N42.80063 W78.75232
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Pizza Junction
1269 Erie Ave
North Tonawanda, NY 14120
716-692-6366
N43.05173 W78.84639
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Santora's Phase II

600 Delaware St
Tonawanda, NY 14150
716-695-3200
N43.00289 W78.87506

1402 Millersport Hwy
Amherst Twn, NY 14221
716-688-3081
N42.98907 W78.79034
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La Nova

5151 Main St
Amherst Twn, NY 14221
716-634-5151
N42.96028 W78.76013

371 W Ferry St
Buffalo, NY 14213
716-881-3303
N42.91530 W78.88784

Address and waypoints pulled from Mapsource

Craven Wings is definitely a "Mom & Pop" joint. Also serves fingers, homemade curly frys and sandwiches.

Craven Wings
11612 Chapman Hwy.
Seymour, TN 37865
(865) 577-5211
-83.747588
35.865022

If I can "nerd out" on you guys for a few minutes - the History of Buffalo Wings, is somewhat interesting and checkered. Often the Anchor Bar is credited for inventing the wing - and for all I know, they could have in the form we see it today (Served with celery and bleu cheese) - but wings were also a part of Buffalo "Soul Food" for a long time.

Here are a few quick links on history (the second have some information that may be useful as there are reviews of wing places from around the country that could be mined for potential locations - although the site looks a bit old. If I get some time, I can cull through the WNY area ones to see if they still exist - or what might need to be added.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Wings#History
and
http://members.tripod.com/~Backsight/

Also, being from Buffalo, I'd second popping into someplace like Duffs or

Franks Sunny Italy
2491 Deleware Ave, Buffalo NY 14216
N42.570665 W78.520691

The thing about Buffalo as well, is that there is a sub/wing/pizza place on just about every corner where one can get wings. Seriously - *every* pizza place does all 3.

Had some friends drop by today to have me try some Wings from a new place near my home,

Wings Over Somerville

519 Somerville Ave.

Somerville, MA 02143

(617) 666-9464)

-71.10637
42.383399

I have added them to the POI

It doesn't look like much (in a strip mall) but it's better than the popular chain in town (IMHO).

Buffalo Wings & Ribs‎
6439 W Jefferson Blvd, Fort Wayne, IN
(260) 436-9464‎

41.054431, -85.225413

I will enter it asap.

Tomarosa Pizza & Pasta located in the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago. They have a unique take on Buffalo Wings that I have not had anywere else. They use the traditional chicken wing pieces and bread them and cook them. They then put it into a thick Buffalo sauce that sticks to the wings and your fingers. I know this is not the traditional method of making Buffalo Wings, but it is great.

Tomarosa Pizza & Pasta
1332 N Roselle Rd
Schaumburg, IL 60195
(847) 925-1000
-88.080354, 42.052671

Thanks, I have added them to the list. They sound like they should be called Italian Buffalo Wings.

Excellent wings

Lyndora Hotel+Bar
1 Main St
Lyndora PA 16045
(724)283-1289
(40.8505, -79.9126)

I have added them to the list

Carrinni's - Pasadena, MD. Great lemon-pepper style wings

Hi Randy, I have tried to find Carrinni's, but I have had no luck. I tried Google and Mapquest. If you could, post the complete name, street address and Lat. + Long. Thanks, Paul

2 locations

7025 Allentown Blvd.
Harrisburg, PA 17112
717-920-WING (9464)
-76.751838, 40.330332

1300 Camp Hill Bypass
Camp Hill, PA 17011
717-730-WING (9464)
-76.917754, 40.250632

Both locations of Arooga's have been added.

1st listing is in the "good wings, interesting history" category:

Chuck's Spring Street Cafe
16 Spring St
Princeton, NJ 08542
(609) 921-0027

This was a pretty popular wings place in Princeton right around the time that Lyle and Erik Menendez (both college students - one at Princeton) decided to murder their parents in 1989, play the role of grieving children and then live it up (for a short time) before the law caught up with them in 1993. They're both serving life sentences. But...the wings at Chuck's are pretty good! You can read up on Lyle and Erik here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_and_Erik_Menendez

The other place doesn't have the same kind of story - but the wings are the absolute best I have ever had anywhere -- simply amazing. Additionally, they serve 10 grades of "hot", with the hottest -- "Ludicrous" -- so intense that waitresses carry the wings on a plate that's resting within another larger plate, and some of them wear gloves to avoid getting rashes. One visit there we were sitting next to a table of teen girls one of whom was just receiving a plate of Ludicrous wings. I asked her about them - and she offered me one. I tried it, and was floored at the heat -- the spice was incredible, and my left eye started tearing up as well -- and didn't stop for close to an hour (just the one eye). Anyway - even if you don't get the hottest, these wings are amazing -- people come to this place from distant states just to get the wings. The place is open 24 hours a day, service is friendly -- food is great, and it's called:

Chicken or the Egg (affectionally referred to as "Chegg"). Their web page is:
http://www.492fowl.com/

...and the address is:
207 N Bay Ave
Beach Haven, NJ 08008
(609) 492-3695

- Jon

Chuck's Spring Street Cafe and the Chicken or the Egg have been posted. Nice to have a little History lesson to think about, while we eat.....Paul

Mean way down south
Almost Key West

Rob's Island Grill
31251 Avenue A
Big Pine Key, FL 33043
305-872-3022

Rob's Island Grill has been added to the list.
Paul

I found some strange characters embedded in the GPX file for:

Jeremiah’s Tavern
43.1388 -77.5799
Rochester, New York

You are correct. When I looked at the CSV file it is correct. As far as the GPX file, I have no clue as to why it changed the format of the letters. Maybe Miss POI can look at this, when she has time.

If someone will make the correction to the GPX file and send it to me, I will get it up on the page.

Miss POI

Just Wing'n It
7834 Michigan Rd
Indianapolis, IN 46268
(317) 471-1020

Lon: -86.21492 Lat: 39.89546

Just Wing'n It, has been added to the file.
I saw a show on making your own Buffalo Wings at home on the Food Network with Alton Brown last night. It looks good. I will try it later today. www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/good-eats/buffalo-wings-recipe/i...