Mapsource routes

 

I received a copy of mapsource from Garmin. I planned a route and added two waypoints to force the routing algorithm to choose a route I know has less traffic.

I downloaded the route to my 750 and expected it to show up in my routes. Instead all the waypoints show in my favorites. So instead of a route I see the 4 waypoints listed separately in favorites. I think from reading other posts this is what is supposed to happen but it doesn't seem very useful. Is a "route" navigating from one waypoint to another? I'm sure I can use these waypoints to create a route manually on the 750 using my route but that's no fun smile

Am I missing something here or is that the way it works.

no need for waypoint

In MapSource you make your start and finish waypoint and then if you don't like the route you can in MapSource drag the route to where you want it without the need to add more waypoints.

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You may need to Import Route

You may need to Import Route from File in the My Data selection on your 750. I have a 760 but I do not have Mapsource as of yet. However, any routes I have created using other methods such as GM2GPX require the import step once the route is transfered to the GPSr.

Access downloaded maps to 7xx

Once you have downloaded the map you built using MapSource you have to import it into the saved routes in the Nuvi7xx. To do this go to TOOLS-MyData and the select Import Route from File. This will bring up all the routes you have downloaded into the Nuvi7xx. Select the one or ones you want and the select IMPORT on the bottom bar.

Just a reminder. You are only allowed to have 10 routes in the SAVED ROUTES. If you already have 10 routes there you will not be able to import a route until you delete one of the SAVED ROUTES.

The routes that are in you MyData will stay there even after you import them. So when you are through with that route you can delete it from the SAVED ROUTES, thus leaving you room to make more routes (up to 10). And you can then re-import the route if you need it again.

Hopes this helps

H Hannah
Nuvi750 and Ique3600

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Thanks for the info

H Hanna I used your method above and it worked like a charm. I completely missed the step of importing through mydata.

Thanks again for your help.

How to????????

flaco wrote:

In MapSource you make your start and finish waypoint and then if you don't like the route you can in MapSource drag the route to where you want it without the need to add more waypoints.

Can you expand on how to do this??? I've tried numerous times and can't make it work.

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Ed - Garmin Zumo 550 (have 2)

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Using the pointer tool (the arrow), click once on the magenta route. This will turn it to yellow with red arrows.

Then single click on the route again near the location where you want to change the route. This will "rubberband" the route at that point.

Now drag the route to where you want it to go and single click again.

The route will recalculate.

Repeat as needed.

Thanks MM

I was trying to do it with the magenta route and not the yellow one. I guess when you get it re routed that the waypoint shows on the map but it dont show up as a actual waypoint, Thanks.

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Jerry...Jacksonville,Fl Nüvi1450,Nuvi650,Nuvi 2495 and Mapsource.

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Yes, unless you create a Waypoint, the points where you move the route become viapoints.

Note that unless you WANT the points to be Waypoints (ie you want to stop there), DON'T use the Waypoint tool at all.

Use the Routing tool and/or the Pointer tool.

Thanks MM

This is gonna be way cool when I get my 750 I just ordered. Looking forward to learning all there is to know 'cause I wanna be like you.

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Glenn - Southern MD; SP C330 / Nuvi 750 / Nuvi 265WT

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What a lovely thing to say. Thanks.

Feel free to ask whatever questions you have.

Got it

Thanks, MM. Finally got it figured out. Much easier than creating lots of waypoints.

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Ed - Garmin Zumo 550 (have 2)

Is Routes really useful?

I just got back from a trip from Ohio to FL where I attended a conference. We (my wife and I) thought that it will be a good opportunity to also spend a day or two in Myrtle Beach which we heard so much about. So I set up a route starting from home in OH, with destination set at the hotel in Orlando where we have reservation, and a via point in Myrtle Beach, at a seafood resturant. After dinner, we spent the night at a hotel that was located several miles from the route.

The problem came the next morning when we tried to resume our way to Orland via the route that I set up. When I clicked on the route, the 760 asked whether I wanted to go to the starting point, which I assume is my home in OH. So, I tapped no. It then went to the map screen and Jill said :"go to the route"; but with no direction!! Remember that I was serveral miles from the original route. Because I did not save the destination in Orlando as a favorite, I was not able to just click to get direction to start from where I was at.

So, I guess, it does not seem route is worth using if it only include 1 or 2 via points.

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Recently Found

jjc715 wrote:

Remember that I was serveral miles from the original route. Because I did not save the destination in Orlando as a favorite, I was not able to just click to get direction to start from where I was at.

I believe you could have found the Orlando destination under Where To/Recently Found.

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Nuvi 660 -- and not upgrading it or maps until Garmin fixes long-standing bugs/problems, and get maps to where they are much more current, AND corrected on a more timely basis when advised of mistakes.

go to route with no directions

This to me is a significant flaw in the way routes are handled. When you are off route it should "route" you to the route or at least have a option to do so.

Routes

bentbiker wrote:
jjc715 wrote:

Remember that I was serveral miles from the original route. Because I did not save the destination in Orlando as a favorite, I was not able to just click to get direction to start from where I was at.

I believe you could have found the Orlando destination under Where To/Recently Found.

It doesn't, that's the thing. After you create a route, the only editing that is available is the name/rename. All the waypoints are masked, including the beginning and the ending points. So, my point is: if there are only a few waypoints in a route, perhaps just saving them as favorites, and just go from one to the other manually. This way one would not be lost in a unfamilia city, unless if you do not plan to EVER deviate from your route. Then, the question that begs to be asked is: What's the point of ROUTES?

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-Garmin Nuvi 760 & 765T-

750 Routes

Well the OP asked about a 750 and you can edit routes on a 750.

Options:
1. He could add his current location to the route and use this new route.
2. He could do a goto to the nearest/any waypoint on the route and then switch over to the route.

As the resident POI-Factory curmudgeon>>>

jjc715 wrote:

I just got back from a trip from Ohio to FL where I attended a conference. We (my wife and I) thought that it will be a good opportunity to also spend a day or two in Myrtle Beach which we heard so much about. So I set up a route starting from home in OH, with destination set at the hotel in Orlando where we have reservation, and a via point in Myrtle Beach, at a seafood resturant. After dinner, we spent the night at a hotel that was located several miles from the route.

The problem came the next morning when we tried to resume our way to Orland via the route that I set up. When I clicked on the route, the 760 asked whether I wanted to go to the starting point, which I assume is my home in OH. So, I tapped no. It then went to the map screen and Jill said :"go to the route"; but with no direction!! Remember that I was serveral miles from the original route. Because I did not save the destination in Orlando as a favorite, I was not able to just click to get direction to start from where I was at.

So, I guess, it does not seem route is worth using if it only include 1 or 2 via points.

I feel compelled to say that most of this new fangled techo-wizardry is simply a playtoy for the unwashed masses who clamour for more gadgets that do not necessarily have any easy to use practical efficacy.

Perhaps a better way to state this would be that Garmin, TomTom, etc. should just not put out a product that is so difficult to use that the person of average intelligence (all of us figured out how to get here, did we not?) cannot intuitively use the gizmo in about one minute.

Let me suggest to Garmin the following: create a program that allows a person to simply click on 2-to-infinity points on a map in the order the person wants; then click name and save route; then click import route to GPS; then fire up the GPS and touch "routes" and pick the one they want from the named and saved routes they have uploaded (allowing for a return to the route as easily as getting off for gas now)...do that and not only will you have my dollars in your pocket but you will make Bill Gates look like a rube and relative pauper.

The Space Shuttle is an amazing piece of technology or combined technologies...that does not mean that a person of average technical ability can use it...it takes something better than my brain to make me want to spend my money...the basic GPS is that, indeed, as I can, typically, dispense with the need for paper maps...but if I have to think about the technology for more than say 3 seconds, I'd rather just use a map.

/rant and free advice smile

Regards, Ted

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"You can't get there from here"

Editing Routes

"All the waypoints are masked, including the beginning and the ending points."

Not sure what was meant by this but the software versions prior to 2.5 had a problem in displaying the via point names for routes under certain conditions. The names would be blank after turning off the Nuvi and powering back up again (seemed to be more prevalent for routes transferred from Map Source if I recall but may have been for all routes). This went away with 2.5. On the other hand, via point names are "masked" on the active current route after one has passed these points, but succeeding points should be visible.

Using the Tools>"Where AM I" feature to store one's current location and adding (editing) that point to the route in question would guide one back to the route.

You can also go to the route in question, edit, add/remove points and display the map for any via point in the route and save that location in your favorites. Then you would have that point for any future reference.

But you need to be able to see the names of the via points in the routes, so if the old software version is an issue, that would have to be corrected with a software upgrade.

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larelr2003

Thanks

jjc715 wrote:

It doesn't, that's the thing. After you create a route, the only editing that is available is the name/rename. All the waypoints are masked, including the beginning and the ending points.

Thanks for explaining -- I obviously don't have a route-capable unit, and you are right -- I was missing the point that the final destination was masked.

If you had saved just the final destination as a favorite, would you have been able to temporarily use that to get you back to the route, and then change to the original route? I realize that in this specific instance there would probably be no difference between the "temporary" and original, but if the remaining portion of the route had been adjusted, it would be desirable to again start using the route. With the destination hotel as a favorite, you could also use it while traveling around at your destination city.

Finally, with routes, if you deviate from the route, does it not begin "recalculating"? I'm wondering why, after leaving the restaurant and heading for the hotel, it wasn't constantly trying to recalculate to get you back on the route. Or, did you stop the routing at that point to stop the constant recalculation? Or, does turning the unit off while a recalculated route is in progress, does the unit lose that recalculated route?

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Nuvi 660 -- and not upgrading it or maps until Garmin fixes long-standing bugs/problems, and get maps to where they are much more current, AND corrected on a more timely basis when advised of mistakes.

Easy Routes

"Let me suggest to Garmin the following: create a program that allows a person to simply click on 2-to-infinity points on a map in the order the person wants; then click name and save route; then click import route to GPS; then fire up the GPS and touch "routes" and pick the one they want from the named and saved routes they have uploaded (allowing for a return to the route as easily as getting off for gas now)..."

Sounds like my Nuvi 750!

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larelr2003

Leaving the Location

The problem I've seen is you arrive at your location and turn the unit off. Now leave the location and some distance away turn the unit on. Now you are not on the route and not at a destination. This is where Garmin falls flat on it's face as you have 2 options: Go to the beginning point or proceed to route. And you'll get no help getting to the route which may not even be on the screen.

Leave without GPS on?

CATraveler wrote:

The problem I've seen is you arrive at your location and turn the unit off. Now leave the location and some distance away turn the unit on.

Does your unit not turn on automatically when you turn on the ignition, or do you run off of battery to eliminate the cable?

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Nuvi 660 -- and not upgrading it or maps until Garmin fixes long-standing bugs/problems, and get maps to where they are much more current, AND corrected on a more timely basis when advised of mistakes.

Routs

bentbiker, I did exactly what CATraveler said: I turned off the 760 when I turned in for the night in Myrtle Beach. That accounted for the unit not able to recalculate.

larelr2003's suggestion makes a lot of sense. I guess I'll have to experiment with that to see if it'll solve this problem. And,

TMK, we're all just "average intelligent little kids" here, talking and discovering the marvels of our new little toys, aren't we?

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I didn't know that.

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Using the pointer tool (the arrow), click once on the magenta route. This will turn it to yellow with red arrows.

Then single click on the route again near the location where you want to change the route. This will "rubberband" the route at that point.

Now drag the route to where you want it to go and single click again.

The route will recalculate.

Repeat as needed.

Just tired it, thanks, works the way I want to go, great!!

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The only difference between men and boys>>>

jjc715 wrote:

bentbiker, I did exactly what CATraveler said: I turned off the 760 when I turned in for the night in Myrtle Beach. That accounted for the unit not able to recalculate.

larelr2003's suggestion makes a lot of sense. I guess I'll have to experiment with that to see if it'll solve this problem. And,

TMK, we're all just "average intelligent little kids" here, talking and discovering the marvels of our new little toys, aren't we?

LOL...of course GPS now allows the ladies to become toy obsessed smile

I tend to collect things that are "simple"...watches, firearms, knives, books...the technology stuff, while fun enough, I view as a tool and for my simple mind, a hammer is better than a slide rule smile

Regards, Ted

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"You can't get there from here"

Following your Track

Also, if you use the "Show Track" feature in Tools>System>Map you could try following the blue line back to the point you left your route (you won't get verbal directions for turns until you reach the route and this assumes you had the Nuvi turned on until you reached your current location). This might be suitable in some situations. However, the methods mentioned earlier might give you a better way to get back to your main route rather than simply backtracking.

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larelr2003