Suppose I should have read further....
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Yesterday, I re-organized my POI files on my computer to arrange them more to my liking. The directory looked similar to this;
(1) Local WiFi
(2) Work Place Locations
(3) Motorsport Tracks
etc, etc, ect
Imagine my surprise when I approached a local WiFi spot and "Emily" started beeping at me for a 1 MPH speed zone. Then when I approached work, I got another 2 MPH warning.
I quickly deduced (great detective that I am hahaha) that the numbers in my labels were being treated as speed zones. A more thorough investigation on this site quickly confirms this.
I had scanned through the post about speed alerts awhile ago, but I suppose I should have read the more in-depth comment about using ANY numbers in the file name.
Just thought I'd share.
Cheers!
You're right on this one Sherlock
I had the same issue when I loaded the Route_66 POIs. It wasn't until I ran the POIloader with the "manual" mode set before I saw the proximity alerts for 66 being activated. Now I step thru every file and if I don't want alerts on, I'll just click to ignore that setting.
dd
When you load the POIs with
When you load the POIs with POI loader use manual mode. For each file you can set the proximity or speed alert.
Numbers
..... more in-depth comment about using ANY numbers in the file name.
Also, if any individual POI line within the file contains @ followed by any number (Example: @20) in the 'Name' field, this will cause an alert.
As far as the file name, you may be interested to know that POI Verifier will tell you of numbers in the file name and give you the option of removing them if an alert is not desired.
RT
"Internet: As Yogi Berra would say, "Don't believe 90% of what you read, and verify the other half."
Is there any similar way to
Is there any similar way to tag the lines within a POI file to have a different proximity alert distance. My only other alternative is to use a separate file for each alert distance.
Joe
Joe - nuvi 370
Here's the help page from POIloader
There are some interesting differences between speed alerts and proximity alerts and how you set them.
Creating Custom POI Files
Advanced users can create their own .csv and .gpx data files that include Custom POI lists or TourGuide files.
POI Loader loads all .csv and .gpx data files saved in a particular directory. When creating or downloading Custom POI data files, it is recommended that you save all the data files you want to upload to your device in the same directory.
POI Loader determines whether or not a file contains speed and proximity alert points based on specific criteria. Use the following information to help you create Custom POI files:
If a file name contains a valid speed number or if all records in a file have speed encoded in the name, then all records in the file will include speed and proximity alerts. For example, a data file with the file name "Speed_30" generates speed alerts of 30 mph (or kph, depending on the type of units selected in POI Loader) for each POI in the file.
If the file name contains "redlight", POI Loader assumes all records in the file have proximity alerts with a distance of 400m/0.25 miles.
If a file contains "GATSO," "mobile," "SPECS," "safety," "speed," or "camera," but does not have a speed, POI Loader uses a default alert speed of 0, which means you will always be alerted. You can override this default value by entering the speed in Manual mode.
You can also enter speeds for each POI individually by adding the @ symbol and a number after the name of the POI. For example, a Custom POI named "Ridgeview@25" would create a POI named "Ridgeview" with a 25 mph speed alert.
POI Loader calculates proximity alert distance based on speed. You can enter proximity alert distance for individual Custom POIs in a .gpx file. You can also enter proximity alert distance for all Custom POIs in a data file using Manual mode.
dd
yes
Is there any similar way to tag the lines within a POI file to have a different proximity alert distance. My only other alternative is to use a separate file for each alert distance.
Joe
Yes, that's how it's done.
Example:
Longitude,Latitude,Name@20,Comment
Longitude,Latitude,Name@50,Comment
If loaded in Express mode, the first POI will have a 20mph alert; the second a 50mph alert.
RT
"Internet: As Yogi Berra would say, "Don't believe 90% of what you read, and verify the other half."
More flexibility...
Is there any similar way to tag the lines within a POI file to have a different proximity alert distance.
If you use gpx files instead of csv, you can have different Proximity settings and/or different Speed settings on a per POI basis. Each entry in the file could play a different alert, and have a different icon associated with it, if you so desired.
------------------------ Phil Hornby, Stockport, England ---------------------- http://GeePeeEx.com - Garmin POI Creation made easy »
Manual Mode.... on a MAC?
When you load the POIs with POI loader use manual mode. For each file you can set the proximity or speed alert.
I use a MAC for my computing needs (I do have a PC as well) and I do not have a "Manual Mode" in my POI Uploader. This is the 'loader' that I downloaded from Garmin.
Is there a better POI loader than the Garmin one? Or am I not seeing a manual mode because the MAC version doesn't have this function?
All I see in my POI loader is the device (NUVI) and the location (directory) I want to load the POI's from. My POI loader also does NOT see my external memory card, although my computer does.
Am I missing something??
TIA
There is no Manual Mode for POI Loader for the Mac
I use a MAC for my computing needs (I do have a PC as well) and I do not have a "Manual Mode" in my POI Uploader. This is the 'loader' that I downloaded from Garmin.
Is there a better POI loader than the Garmin one? Or am I not seeing a manual mode because the MAC version doesn't have this function?
The Mac POI Loader does not yet have a manual mode. I have heard future versions may have it. You can get speed alerts by using a number in the file name of the speed you want an alert (65 Interstate Traps will trigger alerts at those locations if you driving greater than 65 mph).
I am not sure why POI is not seeing the external card. I would try it within the Garmin and in a USB card reader. One of those routes should work.
Brent - DriveLuxe 51 LMT-S
Understanding a little better
You can also enter speeds for each POI individually by adding the @ symbol and a number after the name of the POI. For example, a Custom POI named "Ridgeview@25" would create a POI named "Ridgeview" with a 25 mph speed alert.
POI Loader calculates proximity alert distance based on speed. You can enter proximity alert distance for individual Custom POIs in a .gpx file. You can also enter proximity alert distance for all Custom POIs in a data file using Manual mode.
dd
Thanks to dd, RT and PH for the input. Did not think about proximity alert was being a function of speed, but I guess that makes sense. Did not know that setting a speed of 0 always triggers the alert. Did know about file naming and using the @ in the POI file, since I have played around with redlight camers and POIedit and POIloader. GPX files are a new beast for me. Is there any source that plainly, in simple terms, explains the structure of the GPX files? From what I can quickly determine, it looks a lot like XML.
Thanks,
Joe
Joe - nuvi 370
It is xml
Some links for you:-
Topografix - Official GPX website
Yahoo! GPX Developers Forum
Garmin's schema extensions
Wikipedia article
...and there's always the site mentioned in my signature
------------------------ Phil Hornby, Stockport, England ---------------------- http://GeePeeEx.com - Garmin POI Creation made easy »
Good Info
Thanks for the links. Topografix can be overwhelming; the Garmin and Wikipedia add more info. Visited your website, downloaded the trial version. Will give it a try. Looks/sounds promising.
Joe
Joe - nuvi 370
Ditto Good Info
This explains the issue I had. Thanks the detective work.
Jim Garmin nuvi 660