Didn't know indoor pools are closed if lightning possible

What is the reasoning behind it? Do they assume turn-out will be low so it is too costly to keep staff "on the clock" for pool usage by members?

The general thought by some experts (PhD) is it is not necessary to close indoor pools during thunderstorms. See the content at https://www.nrpa.org/parks-recreation-magazine/2016/may/ligh....

Similar content at https://www.aquaticsintl.com/facilities/management-operators....

A conservative approach, calling for closure, is at https://www.redcross.org/content/dam/redcross/Health-Safety-.... Key wording is "supported mainly by expert opinions which fall within scientific review Class IV – no convincing scientific evidence is available but is
supported by rational conjecture and expert opinion)."

It would be curious to know how much of our lives are based on "rational conjecture."

Honestly, I'm finding that to be the case with car enthusiasts, where things are eyeballed and replaced for no scientific reason. The first time I became aware was when my wife's Michelin tires started at 8.5/32". This meant that after only 15k miles, state inspections were saying need to consider replacement (long story Michelin upped the tread on the LTX version of this tire to 10/32" as a result of complaints). But many people seem to toss tires because they look worn (which is very expensive if a tire is $200-$500 each). I almost did so myself when my used car purchased at a new car dealer was shod with $87 walmart tires for the resale. My wife said you're going to throw away new tires? In the end I drove 2016-2022 on them.

The closures ended my son's consecutive streak of swimming every day, but we'll try to get back again tonight. It's very convenient now to be able to use the one in town, although yesterday a kid opened his door into my wife's car and dented it. What would I do if I had my dream 2023 Tahoe or Escalade?

I had some choice words as if I were Clint Eastwood directing and acting in my own film, but he wasn't buying it. Kids today have about 1/10 the respect we did when we were their age. In all my years, I've never opened my door into someone else's, really. I wouldn't do that. I like machines and automobiles.

IMO, one problem today is kids don't have a sense of monetary values, and hence could care less. As a youngster, probably about age 10, I had a newspaper route of about 40 customers and as I recall that earned me about $4/weekly. I prayed for snow so I could shovel neighbors driveways and get a few bucks more. When I turned 16 and got a drivers license, Dad said I could have a car if I payed for it; he picked up the tab for insurance. I got a job at a local library shelving books; Saturdays worked in a Ford dealership doing simple car stuff.

Today, everything is handed to kids. Mom and Dad pay the cell phone bills, give them cars and a credit ard for the gas. They stay at home looking at the screen of a device instead of meeting up with friends and going to a movie.

Crazy world we live in.

Discount Tire has big signs trying to persuade you to replace tires when the tread depth is well deeper than the ICC wear bars, arguing that wet traction suffers as depth decreases. Probably true--but how much of that extra traction will do you any good in the real world?

Also there is a claim that all tires should be changed at a standard calendar age, as the sidewall rubber deteriorates. Also true, but does it not matter how much sun and nasty chemicals in the air a given tire has seen? I had my "help call" to get a flat tire changed for the donut spare in our Prius cancelled over the phone by the tow truck operator. As the car was 2006, and the donut original, he claimed it would be contrary to regulations for him to put an out-of-age-limit tire on the car.

That tire had lived inside the trunk--seeing no sun, and little nasty air chemicals. The sidewalls looked perfect. The pressure, on the other hand, was under 20 psi. Spec is 60.

Public Service Announement: if you have a never checked donut in your car, do yourself a favor and air it up to 60 psi. If it is more than a few years old, chances are it will be far below spec. That gives excess sidewall heating when you drive on it--so higher chance of full failure.

"...out of an abundance of caution..."

For the same alleged safety reason, you'll see online advice to stay out of your home shower/tub during a thunderstorm, such as: https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/health/shower-during-thunders...

Is this a *real* safety problem or more of a theoretical one that perhaps bites (at most) a few people in the butt... very few... but isn't a big, real concern*? My guess is the latter, but nobody wants to be sued. And maybe the Y's liability insurance company makes this policy decision for the Y.

Where I live I see summer renters swimming in outdoor pools as thunderstorms approach. That is not bright. I wouldn't do that. But I wouldn't personally worry about swimming indoors or taking an indoor shower during a thunderstorm.

*re: "big, real concern": speaking of biting people in the butt, one can occasionally see a "news story" of people getting bitten in the butt while sitting on the john, by a rat, a snake, a gator, or some other creature that's supposedly crawled back up the pipes into the toilet bowl. Do you adjust your behavior, say always turning on the light and taking a careful look before sitting down? Not me. I mean, this may occasionally really happen, but it's certainly a rare problem. Same with being in the water indoors during a storm.

I have no idea where it comes from, but today, parents seem to be "obligated" to get kids a new car, or, one that is no more than 3-5 years old, at age 16. Again, I have no idea why that is, I see it with parents of limited means as well. Not sure what ever happened to driving junk. Vehicles that had no brakes, leaked oil, were missing exhaust parts, ran hot, we were told this builds character.

I do recall a kid in HS getting a 944 when he was 16, but that was so rare in my time. Another kid got a GTI. Well, today, I still like GTIs and I've never owned one and never will. It isn't that I couldn't get one if I truly wanted it, there are just many things higher up in the order. Maybe I will get a Tahoe one day, if it's that important, why not? Is it worth waiting 4 decaades for? 122.9 cu ft of cargo is impressive. I think the Suburban only had that in 2016 (malaise generation?). So much for waiting...

Where you hit the nail on the head.....hoping it would snow, so you could earn extra money.

Two jobs I did before 14....plowed snow with a farm tractor using the front end loader, and sold greeting cards door to door. The latter was a disaster. The former was fun.

So much in theory today, not application. I remember hitchhiking, and picking up hitchhikers when I was 18-22.

Now people throw away tires when they are 2,191 days old. They "could" be too old and something might happen. Well, go to W Phila they'll take those tires out of the trash and sell them. And mfgs say to replace at 3,651 days old just in case. They don't even elaborate on why, they could get sued as a result. I've got winter tires from 2008 on my BMW. I have no worries. Guy at Costco freaked out when I asked him if I could get some nitrogen (I was messing around and deflated one, trying to fill it back up with the self serve nitrogen. It has a feature that won't allow it to work when under some psi as damage is implied). I thought maybe they have an inhaler or benadryl or something to bring him back to normal

My 2006 car purchased used in 2016, has a full sized spare mounted on an alloy rim in the trunk. It still has grease pencil markings from the factory in Tahara Aichi. It's a relic. I would never use it because I don't want to disturb the preserved state of the rim. All 4 other rims are curb rashed and / or peeling. It also has the OE Dunlop SP tire on it, with the red and yellow dots still on it.

The garage queen has no spare at all. I have no fear in not having one and I wisely cancelled AAA in 2020 after paying 7 years for nothing. Hopefully if I ever needed a spare I'd call my wife and she could pick me up and I'll get a snow tire out of the shed.

Her SUV has a compact spare mounted under the rear and it's totally rusted. I actually do not know how to get it off, but figure the tires have a road hazard from Costco.

Just thought of this, if I ever were to take my car to a dealer, which I would not, they could steal the spare or the tool kit and say it was never there when the car came in. I have tools from my BMW missing and it's only been dealer serviced for the first 4 years of its life, then serviced by the dealer for PA State inspections. Yet things are "gone." Very sad.

All of the above comes from companies etc, being afraid of being sued.

Hence we have warning labels on Hot cups of coffee (lawsuit many years ago). Geez the old lady ordered a cup of coffee, did she expect it to be cold? Would she have sued if it was NOT hot? People today are idoits and lawyers are happy to get in on the money train.

Would I take a shower in an iron tub if there was lighting near me, NO. Would I take a shower in a tub, or enclosure that was not iron, yes.

Would I swim in an indoor pool if there was lighting near the building, probably not just to be on the safe side, because I would not be there if there was a lighting storm. My kids are more important than just maintaoing how many days in a row they swam.

lol