Apple Is Changing All Of Its iPhone Connectors Again - USB-C

 

Future iPhones will be made with the same USB-C port that your friends with Android phones are probably already using, an Apple executive told the Wall Street Journal this week

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Let's not pat Apple on the back

Just to be sure, Apple fought this for several years, and the European Union (EU) won. The EU felt that there were just too many chargers ending up in landfills; estimated to be 11,000 tons annually. Under these new rules, all mobile phones, tablets and cameras sold in the EU will be required to have a USB Type-C charging port by the end of 2024, and all laptop computers by the spring of 2026.

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John from PA

Now

Now all the the lightning cables and chargers will end up in the landfills.

EU eliminates new Lightning

So, in the end the EU went to considerable lengths with almost the sole practical consequence being the elimination of new production using the Apple Lightning connector.

All by themselves, the world's manufacturers had reduced the enormous variety of charging arrangements prevailing a few years ago to just two. (I remember charging stations at airports with a bewildering array of plugs and protocols)

Then in swoops officialdom and claims a huge benefit for humanity by cutting this to one.

Had their rule been in place years ago, it would have forbidden the deployment of USB-C. Ponder that for a moment.

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Nope

the hell with apple

Apple creates

"iCant" devices...

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right-hand-rule?

archae86 wrote:

So, in the end the EU went to considerable lengths with almost the sole practical consequence being the elimination of new production using the Apple Lightning connector.

All by themselves, the world's manufacturers had reduced the enormous variety of charging arrangements prevailing a few years ago to just two. (I remember charging stations at airports with a bewildering array of plugs and protocols)

Then in swoops officialdom and claims a huge benefit for humanity by cutting this to one.

Had their rule been in place years ago, it would have forbidden the deployment of USB-C. Ponder that for a moment.

To make my earphones work on an Iphone do I wrap the cord around it obeyng the right-hand-rule? Tie it with a sheepshank?

No

minke wrote:
archae86 wrote:

So, in the end the EU went to considerable lengths with almost the sole practical consequence being the elimination of new production using the Apple Lightning connector.

All by themselves, the world's manufacturers had reduced the enormous variety of charging arrangements prevailing a few years ago to just two. (I remember charging stations at airports with a bewildering array of plugs and protocols)

Then in swoops officialdom and claims a huge benefit for humanity by cutting this to one.

Had their rule been in place years ago, it would have forbidden the deployment of USB-C. Ponder that for a moment.

To make my earphones work on an Iphone do I wrap the cord around it obeyng the right-hand-rule? Tie it with a sheepshank?

Use the Hilary Clinton iCantPhone virus cleaning technique.. you know.. put the phone on the street n' beat it into submission using a very big hammer!

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coming

from a person who has the Xs for $249, and now the 13 Pro for $298. It was the price that got me to switch.

Used to be a person spent $60 to get fast charging with a Xs, disgraceful. Only Apple made the USB-C to lightning cable at the time. When it comes in the box with every Android.

Luckily all this cheapned....an Anker adapter 2 for $19, knock off but MFi cables $6 for a pack of 3.

Full blown Anker cable I think $10. So reasonable esp. since Apple provides no chargers.

USB C is the way. I carry a 65W charger in my laptop bag and that's all I need for the laptop, no longer a large brick.

Here's my story if you care to hear me drone on lol

Background--always co provided cell phone until 2010 (pager since 1996 through 2010, cell 1998-2010). Personal Android from 2010 to 2018 with stipend as BYOD.

My last Samsung S8 was purchased brand new--I had 2 replaced under warranty, one time was very inconvenient I was visiting a site and my phone overheated and couldn't be used. Once the battery drained 2 days later the phone never worked again. Also interesting, S8 #1 and #2 had the screen burn in in < 6 mos., #3 did not.

So I was open to switching. Then before Thanksgiving 2018 the Xs was available for $249 (ah $750 off but discount over 24 mos to be clear net $249).

The deal's worsened in that the 13 Pro is $298 net (day the 14 came out), over 36 months--see that, increased it by a year).

I actually think the quality of the phones themselves are top notch, not 1 single issue with the Xs in almost 4 years, and my battery is 76%. My wife's is 95% same age. I'd expect the 13 Pro to last 4 years easily as well.

p.s. I don't write the policy but it's not good for cos to have employees use their personal cells for business--banks were fined billions collectively. I got $140/mo stipend in 2010 for cell (not anymore much less).

I felt

Steve620 wrote:

the hell with apple

This way until 2018. Then I caved lol

I remember I was gonna buy the stock at $89 in 2009 I think. Always hindsight.

To your thoughts, the apps are child-like and we have thousands of Android Enterprise devices at work doing work every day across the USA and Canada, we have zero iOS other than in the marketing dept. in NJ.

Not just Apple

The battery pack for my heated vest contains a battery pack and it can only be charged via a USB-C. It came from China. It is the only 1 that is different on all my battery packs, lights, fan, and compressor that I use for camping. Instead of packing 1 cable I now have to pack 2.

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Question

Will all USB C cables work with Apple products or just those "certified" by Apple?

Knockoff lightning cables often weren't fully functional because they weren't Apple certified. I wonder if they are going to play the same game with USB C.

In theory

bdhsfz6 wrote:

Will all USB C cables work with Apple products or just those "certified" by Apple?

Knockoff lightning cables often weren't fully functional because they weren't Apple certified. I wonder if they are going to play the same game with USB C.

Almost any "USB-C" cable should work.

There may be power limitations if you don't get a cable rated at 100 watts.. but outside of that..

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One-Time Bite of The Apple

johnnatash4 wrote:
Steve620 wrote:

the hell with apple

This way until 2018. Then I caved lol

I remember I was gonna buy the stock at $89 in 2009 I think. Always hindsight.

To your thoughts, the apps are child-like and we have thousands of Android Enterprise devices at work doing work every day across the USA and Canada, we have zero iOS other than in the marketing dept. in NJ.

Except for buying an Apple IIe computer back about 1980 or earlier, I have never taken another bite of the Apple. I shortly replaced the Apple IIe with an AT&T 6300 PC that was light years ahead of the Apple at the time. I've never bought nor even considered buying another Apple product since that time.

We had apple computers in

We had apple computers in grade school. Beyond that never used an apple product to date. No iCrap here. Current phone is android. This phone is going on 3 years old now (bought late 2019). At the rate im using it, it'll be another 3 years before replacing. It does simple things, calls, texts, emails, web browsing. The google voice app is about as social media as it gets. No fb, twatter, insta or tictactoe.

Because I use google voice for my primary number, calls also come into my computer. To keep ringing devices to a minimum, phone stays in airplane mode most of the time.

All junks til today!

Got all kinds of androids as S2-S8 included big one note but all fail apart within battery issues

Apple still be the same, all iphone 5 to X and plus and Max now, if using a lot whole day then after 1 year, batteries all falling soon.

One note to 2 big brands: all batteries swooping and become big and bigger as the balloon.

Replacing all batteries are coming back worsen than original one.

But it's weird that I still keep old fashion Nokia, it still working now and it made in Finland, despite this company goes out or made under China now, but before it's too good to give away

another nokia in nostalgie is nokia 8310, it's like the brick, even you are hot enough to throw it away, but still usable.

enjoy new tech with cheap quality

imagine one day all of electric cars will have the same issue with battery smile as the phone one!

It's The Industry

The industry is being required by lawmakers to change the connector. All products are required by LAW to use the USB-C connector. Apple is merely following the law. Remember, law and order.

I would prefer that obsolete phones and chargers be turned in for recycling.

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Is the cable really the issue?

I think the biggest issue with device charging is the charger rather than the cable. If the charging protocol is not compatible with the device, the cable isn't going to make a big difference. People will buy a new fast charger compatible with the device. Some of my devices are Qualquamm Fast Charge while my phone is PD Fast Charging. I think other devices use proprietary protocols. I would have focused more on making the chargers compatible, rather than the connector. Charging devices should also be properly labeled with the output voltages and charging protocols. Cables also need to be properly labeled, as charging cabled don't necessarily transfer data at the full data rate.
Mark

There are places that will recycle them.

diesel wrote:

The industry is being required by lawmakers to change the connector. All products are required by LAW to use the USB-C connector. Apple is merely following the law. Remember, law and order.

I would prefer that obsolete phones and chargers be turned in for recycling.

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Nuvi 2460LMT.

I did get Apple at $89

Quite the happy camper. Good products!

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Some Of The

baumback wrote:

I think the biggest issue with device charging is the charger rather than the cable. If the charging protocol is not compatible with the device, the cable isn't going to make a big difference. People will buy a new fast charger compatible with the device. Some of my devices are Qualquamm Fast Charge while my phone is PD Fast Charging. I think other devices use proprietary protocols. I would have focused more on making the chargers compatible, rather than the connector. Charging devices should also be properly labeled with the output voltages and charging protocols. Cables also need to be properly labeled, as charging cabled don't necessarily transfer data at the full data rate.
Mark

Some of the aftermarket lighting cables I have (non MFi) won't charge my iPhone even using an Apple charger. There is a work around though. If I put the phone in airplane mode first, then plug in the charger, it will work. Apparently, this disables the DRM check. It doesn't work on all iPhones though.

I picked up the tip a few years back from this website:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/92oeh8/lpt_if_...

Hopefully, Apple will discontinue this nonsense with the USB-C switch.

Wait, What?

anh wrote:

enjoy new tech with cheap quality

I had a long post typed out regarding my experiences with devices from the past decade, but I deleted it. I'm just going to disagree with you regarding the quality of most devices today, though I will agree that the early Galaxy S-series devices really weren't the most robust, if the cracks in my Galaxy S4's shell were any indicator. As for batteries, iCrap devices are woefully underpowered, with tiny batteries compared to their Android counterparts. Regardless of phone brand however, batteries do have a finite lifespan, and it's all because of chemistry.

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This is why.....

I keep my phone as long as I can.

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thanks but only subject matter!

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:
anh wrote:

enjoy new tech with cheap quality

disagree ...quality of most devices today, ...cracks in my Galaxy S4's shell ... As for batteries, iCrap devices ... underpowered, with tiny batteries compared to their Android counterparts. Regardless of phone brand however, batteries do have a finite lifespan, and it's all because of chemistry.

IMHO, thanks for nice input but it's only personal experience only for some devices.
In my case, I do have lot of devices since 30 years ago and lot of things changes over time based on only quality.
In the past, you can pay a lot for nice high quality, but today you pay for the brand name only, that's out of options recently.
Physical only, all iphones until today cannot fall into deep river, even with new ipthone 14, tested here and it's just died. In my case, it's just around 3 meters within deep riverside walk. While the respectful Nokia still be survive when it fall into the same spot of river.
When google is our nice friend tool of search, you can find tons of issue about physical breaking phones with other people, enough to say we don't have as last Nokia mostly unbreakable phone under any stressful physical accidents.
For battery issue, agreed one point that all about chemical lifespan but one day you will figure it out why some chemical things last longer than other made by some companies, all depend on how much you are willing to pay off.
Nowadays people thought Made in China Cheapy, but surely it's not about China, it's about how the company willing to pay for, if you pay really enough, the quality will be last longer. To me I still love tech made in Taiwan, it's one of my choice now and going on until we can have something made in USA again.

Personally, got lot of Nokia and batteries mostly don't die after one year and so on, and one of them still working after 5 years with capacity around 95% which is iphone, samsung or lg now, cannot make it

for universal cable, remember one thing at Silican valley, they are super smart to get every penny on you smile
So in the case there's "Law and Order" as in the movie, it's only applying to EU only, not NA (north america)

Hope still be just the imagination while we can wait for the dream coming soon!

but as people loved tech enough, of course we love to have one day there's enough nice tech which is we might use it for all devices without any hassles

Again respect for all your opinions and best wishes!

Picked up a new laptop from

Picked up a new laptop from costco recently (https://www.costco.com/lenovo-legion-5-pro-16%22-gaming-lapt...).

This thing comes with 3x usb 3 gen 1 (5gbps) type A ports + 3x usb 3 gen 2 and higher type C ports. One of those type C is a thunderbolt (40 gbps), while the other 2 are 10 gbps.

This was actually a selling point for me. For $100 more I could of gotten a machine with 32GB (vs 16GB) ram, and 1TB ssd (vs 512GB). That one only had 2 type A ports and one type C. AND, the ram was soldered, single m.2 slot. The machine I got has socketed ram, and 2 m.2 slots.

Had to dig really deep in the specs to determine this, but the expandability has its value.

Interesting!

John from PA wrote:

Just to be sure, Apple fought this for several years, and the European Union (EU) won. The EU felt that there were just too many chargers ending up in landfills; estimated to be 11,000 tons annually. Under these new rules, all mobile phones, tablets and cameras sold in the EU will be required to have a USB Type-C charging port by the end of 2024, and all laptop computers by the spring of 2026.

very interesting

It needed to happen. Apple

It needed to happen. Apple making "unique" chargers needed to end. Android phones have been using USB-C for years, now so will Apple to their dismay.

all about the benjamins

sunsetrunner wrote:

It needed to happen. Apple making "unique" chargers needed to end. Android phones have been using USB-C for years, now so will Apple to their dismay.

Apple resisted for so many years because it's all about the money, they did not want anyone else to make a product that could work with an Apple product because they'd lose that money.

I've never liked Apple for that reason. Android, Windows, have a gazillion 3rd party products available for them so you could shop within your budget. Apple has been buy from them or forget it.

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open to closed architecture

soberbyker wrote:
sunsetrunner wrote:

It needed to happen. Apple making "unique" chargers needed to end. Android phones have been using USB-C for years, now so will Apple to their dismay.

Apple resisted for so many years because it's all about the money, they did not want anyone else to make a product that could work with an Apple product because they'd lose that money.

I've never liked Apple for that reason. Android, Windows, have a gazillion 3rd party products available for them so you could shop within your budget. Apple has been buy from them or forget it.

When Apple went from an open architecture (Apple II) to a closed architecture (Macintosh) they lost me.

The best part of the Mac was their first ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I