Yay! New Garmins (for cars) announced

Mary,

Perhaps its time it comes out of the closet and exposes itself.

Then you could afix it to your windscreen and see if it can still guise you to the Walmart off of Jacksboro Highway!

It has always said it applies to the device. Quoting from the T&C's from 2006

"Terms and Limitations

If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately or bundled together with certain GPS models), you will receive up to 4 map data updates per year, when and as such updates are made available on Garmin’s website, for 1 compatible Garmin product until your product’s useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map data from its third party supplier, whichever is shorter.

The updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic map data originally included with your Garmin product when originally purchased (it is possible to use nüMaps Lifetime if you purchased a City Navigator map on DVD and it is used on the same computer you installed the City Navigator maps). In some instances, your Garmin product may not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the same map data originally included with your Garmin product, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD/SD card (as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD/SD card slot contained in your Garmin product.

Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this agreement. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product."

One factor of interest is that last sentence which reads "Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another person or another Garmin product." Has anyone had any issues with a transferred unit? Say a purchase off eBay?

When I travel, for security, I remove & reinstall my Garmin's from their mounts several times a day. Without the powered mag mounts, I would be less likely to do this if it required fumbling with a USB plug. These USB ports aren't designed for frequent use and have a history of failure.

I'm almost certain that the 2006 Terms and Conditions changed and the "not to be transferred" clause was removed. In any event, used eBay and other sales of used devices do work and for quite a while, there's no need, I think, to register a device's serial number with Garmin before doing a map or software update. Not mentioned in the 2006 offering is the newer clause that a device that has not obtained a map update in 24 months will lose the ability to update a map. I don't know if this has ever been tested as I've never heard anyone report that their device with a 2+ year old map was not able to update the device.

Agreed. For $350 clams they ought have included a powered mount. IIRC I paid around $225 for the driveluxe on ebay back in 2015 or 16.

The DS units use a single circuit board inside which also has the usb port soldered on. If it gets broken, the unit becomes useless unless repaired. I suppose a cell phone repair place should be capable for fixing this. It's a standard mini usb on the older units and a micro usb on the DL. Hopefully this new usb C connector is more robust on the new series.

For daily use, if unplugged/plugged multiple times a day, I can't see them lasting more than a year or two, if that.

Makes sense to limit lifetime(read support for) to the lifetime of the appliance. Probably unrealistic to keep lifetime maps available for the lifetime of it's earliest versions. My first GPS a 250W I think would struggle I'm guessing to load todays maps.

Responding to my own post here. I see they finally updated the website with available accessories and these units do not appear to accept or work with any external traffic receiver cables. So the next question is, do they rely on the Garmin app only for traffic or do they contain an internal traffic receiver in the unit because it does say "includes traffic". Wondering if that is HD traffic or not though.

On these units, the traffic receiver is internal. The power cable is the antenna.

On these units, the traffic receiver is internal. The power cable is the antenna. The built in traffic comes from FM broadcasts and are very regional and very local. This traffic slow and has only local traffic.

Using the Smartlink or Drive apps, you get TOTAL traffic coverage from HERE and is available anywhere there is cellular coverage. You also can receive traffic info for areas miles away from you location. Like being notified of accidents, backups, road closures, etc., from as much as 100 miles away. The built in traffic can't do that.

If you buy a newer GPS unit from Garmin, the proper cable always comes with the unit.

As previous comment, still not impressed with new model, still missing existed functions in car but not in Garmin such as:
- Camera speed: with constant change of speeds within my area, Garmin still missing how to create new model to use camera to read on the road speed sign.

With new update 2022.25, many road still show wrong speed limit and more important, when you come to construction zone, that's hard to keep up the speed limit and mobile camera. People got tickets a lot via these new tricks

- required internet to have weather and traffic, that's not reliable over time, especially if app crash and cannot connect to phone, plus as other indicated, redundant phone connection is ridiculous to have both devices to let it work.

- Electric car or hybrid car need way more than just economic option by itself. On highway we lost a lot of energy compared to lower speed than 90 as per Garmin now. Then hoping Garmin develops new algorithm for electric car or hybrid car.

- Again new map still missing many areas around the woods or nearby mountains. many houses with real number but Garmin cannot find it.

Lot of more, hope can give you later. Good day!

Not sure, but the DS55 gets regular traffic from FM signals if you have the TA20. The GTM-60 gets HD traffic because it has its own receiver.

I happened to have purchased the DS55 used and it came with a generic Garmin charger. Every time I start the GPS it tells me that it isn't a compatible charger. I guess the A in TA stands for the antenna. I'm getting a GTM-60 soon so hopefully it works.

Garmin has a chart that says how the phone app gets more traffic detail so the TA20 would allow you to stop getting the annoying warning signs and you'd get the fastest traffic via phone. That's if your phone has coverage where you're driving (and it isn't dead).

If your phone doesn't have sell coverage, you can doggone sure bet you won't have FM or HD traffic. That's a certainty.

For those who worry about mounting,traffic,weather, etc, I can suggest an alternative. My 2018 Prius has the premium ETUNE navigation system which does every thing the Garmin 86 does and more. It is a unit that has a 6 by 11.5 screen and can be used by either 6 inch or 11 inch screen mode with a touch of a finger . When in 6 inch mode the bottom half controls the various radio systems, temp, GPS,etc at all times.
To keep this short, the handicap to this is the cost and upgrades. Just tell your children "thanks for thinking of me and spending part of their inheritance on me"

I use a GTM-60 with my DS55 and it works great. If you go into the diagnostics area, you can verify what the internal receiver sees vs the GTM-60's HD version.

I'll stick with my old nüvi 760.

Mary! You need a road trip.