Phildelphia installs 32 speed cameras on Roosevelt Blvd.

 

The installation of nearly three dozen speed cameras will begin in the coming days along Philadelphia's Roosevelt Boulevard, one of the city and state's most dangerous roadways, city and state officials said Monday.
A total of 32 cameras are being installed at eight intersections along the Boulevard, which is officially numbered U.S. 1. They are:
• Roosevelt Boulevard at Banks Way
• Roosevelt Boulevard at F Street
• Roosevelt Boulevard at Deveraux Street
• Roosevelt Boulevard at Harbison Avenue
• Roosevelt Boulevard at Strahle Street
• Roosevelt Boulevard at Grant Avenue
• Roosevelt Boulevard at Red Lion Road (near Whitten Street)
• Roosevelt Boulevard at Southampton Road (near Horning Street)
The speed camera enforcement zone represents a nearly 12 mile stretch of roadway that is dangerous for drivers and too often deadly for pedestrians.
Drivers who are recorded traveling 11 mph over the posted speed limit will be mailed a violation and slapped with a fine up to $150 per offense. Points will not be assessed to a violator's driving record. Police officers will review each potential violation before it is issued, officials said.
There will be signs posted warning drivers that they're entering a speed camera zone and cameras will cover all lanes. Once the cameras are fully operational, there will be a 60 day warning period where fines are not issued.
Transportation officials expect the first cameras to be up-and-running by the beginning of March. Similar, mobile versions of the cameras are being deployed at roadwork construction sites across Pennsylvania

Correction

"Drivers**" will not be cited, the registered owner of the vehicle will, that owner will have an opportunity to nix the ticket if they can prove they were not driving the vehicle at the time.

**It's against PA law to take photos of the front of the vehicle via RLC or speed cams.

FWIW I forwarded this info to Angela a few days ago who, with Jonathan, are in the process of incorporating the locations into the POI database.

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I live in this metro area, I'm all for it.

If people started to say en masse that they cams are malfunctioning, that's another story. I thought I read it's 10 mph OK, 11 mph ticket. 10 mph is a lot. It's not the 11 in MD, but we're splitting hairs.

These highways were never designed to carry the vehicles they do in 2020, like Queens Blvd, etc. etc. There are fatalities involving people simply trying to cross.

Again, nobody seems to complain that they go into a public area like Costco and can be tracked from entrance throughout the entire store in ultra 4K, why not on the roads where lives are saved?

So behave on the road as one would in the stores, follow the rules. You even can go 10 over if you want. Just don't go 11+.

Logic says.....

The situation must be out of control to garner that many cameras. Just wish they would detect texting drivers as well.

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yup

rvOutrider wrote:

The situation must be out of control to garner that many cameras. Just wish they would detect texting drivers as well.

Roosevelt Blvd in Philadelphia, where these speedcams are going, is the most dangerous stretch of road in Pennsylvania. In fact 4 of the top ten roads in PA for accidents are in Philly (1,2,6,9). Driving there is a free for all. I drive for a living in the city and can not remember a day without a traffic halting accident on it's highways somewhere.

When PA first allowed red light cams it was Roosevelt Blvd that got them first.

There are some states, IIRC, that do have cams for texting drivers. Pennsylvania would have to change the law to be among them though. It's currently illegal to capture an image of the driver of a vehicle with the cams.

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Speed cams were turned on Monday, May 18

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“During four days, there were 500 violators doing as much as 125 miles an hour,” he said.

The speed limit on Roosevelt Boulevard is 45 miles per hour.

Beginning June 1, the cameras will record the vehicles going over the speed limit. For the first 60 days, speeding drivers will be issued warnings. Starting in August, police officers will review each incident detected as a speeding violation by the cameras and, if verified, issue tickets of $100 to $150.

Read the entire article here:

https://kywnewsradio.radio.com/articles/news/ppa-says-speedi...

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The Owner Ends Up Eating It

The problem is that the car is being operated. So since the driver cant be pinpointed then the registered owner is responsible. Its your vehicle your responsibility, At least in my state.

yup

MMtoTSS wrote:

The problem is that the car is being operated. So since the driver cant be pinpointed then the registered owner is responsible. Its your vehicle your responsibility, At least in my state.

That's how it works in Pennsylvania, the registered owner gets the ticket, no points, just a fine, and if the owner can prove they didn't have a vehicle at the time the ticket is torn up, they can not make the owner say who was driving by law.

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test period over fines starting 8-1-20

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Why no frontal pictures

soberbyker wrote:

"Drivers**" will not be cited, the registered owner of the vehicle will, that owner will have an opportunity to nix the ticket if they can prove they were not driving the vehicle at the time.

**It's against PA law to take photos of the front of the vehicle via RLC or speed cams.

FWIW I forwarded this info to Angela a few days ago who, with Jonathan, are in the process of incorporating the locations into the POI database.

I realize we don’t have front license plates in PA but I wonder why the logic behind no frontal photo’s? Just to save on the cost of a duplicate camera?

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John from PA

no pictures from the front

There are hundreds of red light cameras in my area of New York and all of them view the vehicle from the rear. When the summons is mailed to the vehicle owner, it contains a picture of the rear of the car along with the red traffic signal in the background.

It also contains a link to the full-motion video of the the light changing to red and the vehicle entering the intersection. The owner can then see that there is no point in fighting the summons. The red signal is the crucial part of this.

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John from PA wrote:

I realize we don’t have front license plates in PA but I wonder why the logic behind no frontal photo’s? Just to save on the cost of a duplicate camera?

Privacy laws prohibit it if I remember correctly. I do know it's written into the legislation, no front shots.

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Full frontal photos would require an X-walk rating.