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Chrome will continue phasing out Flash , first by asking for your permission to run Flash in more situations, and eventually disabling it by default. Flash will be completely removed from Chrome toward the end of 2020. https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash...

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All good things..

All good things must and will come to an end.

Old news (posted in

Hmmm...

charlesd45 wrote:

Chrome will continue phasing out Flash , first by asking for your permission to run Flash in more situations, and eventually disabling it by default. Flash will be completely removed from Chrome toward the end of 2020. https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash-chrome/

So first they are going to ask if it can be used more, and then they will disable it? Doesn't make sense.

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Asking permission ...

John from PA wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

Chrome will continue phasing out Flash , first by asking for your permission to run Flash in more situations, and eventually disabling it by default. Flash will be completely removed from Chrome toward the end of 2020. https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash-chrome/

So first they are going to ask if it can be used more, and then they will disable it? Doesn't make sense.

Asking permission to run Flash doesn't mean they are using it more, just that they are making you agree to the risks before running it.

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John from PA wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

Chrome will continue phasing out Flash , first by asking for your permission to run Flash in more situations, and eventually disabling it by default. Flash will be completely removed from Chrome toward the end of 2020. https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash-chrome/

So first they are going to ask if it can be used more, and then they will disable it? Doesn't make sense.

No. Chrome simply asks users if they want to run Flash (player) on web pages that have Flash content. I think there will be no option to run Flash by the end of 2020.

What is unclear to me is OP's statement "run Flash in more situations".

More situations.

chewbacca wrote:

What is unclear to me is OP's statement "run Flash in more situations".

I think Charlie is saying they are asking permission in more situations, not running Flash in more situations.

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Exactly, they are putting

Exactly, they are putting the decision to use flash back on the end user, so Chrome will not be at "fault", until they ban it.

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yea but ...

chewbacca wrote:

Old news (posted in 2017).
https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/

This week every time I opened Chrome I would get the announcement across the top about flash ending soon and if I wanted to disable it now.

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Flash

soberbyker wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

Old news (posted in 2017).
https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/

This week every time I opened Chrome I would get the announcement across the top about flash ending soon and if I wanted to disable it now.

Same message here too. "Flash Player will no longer be supported after December 2020"

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:) Everything, not only Flash

Trending in IT is phasing out everything to have new one, cycle is shorter than before. Hope this help

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anh wrote:

Trending in IT is phasing out everything to have new one, cycle is shorter than before. Hope this help

20 years is not a short time for technology.

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alandb wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

What is unclear to me is OP's statement "run Flash in more situations".

I think Charlie is saying they are asking permission in more situations, not running Flash in more situations.

That (more situations) is the confusing part. Less web pages offer Flash content today. Chrome will never ask us (more often) to run Flash if the site doesn't support it.

Flash

I will miss it very much on one puzzle page I visit daily
http://www.uclickgames.com/jumble/online/daily/tmjmf
if they don't update the page to work around Adobe pulling the plug.

There is a non-Flash version of the same puzzle, but by comparison, it's not very good. It doesn't look like the newspaper version and is very slow.

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soberbyker wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

Old news (posted in 2017).
https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/

This week every time I opened Chrome I would get the announcement across the top about flash ending soon and if I wanted to disable it now.

I never get that announcement. Just tried it again last night by launching Chrome browser... nada. Perhaps it depends on Chrome Flash setting. Did you set yours to always enable? I think mine is set to Ask first or prompt.

Version 76.0.3809.100 (Official Build) (64-bit)

chewbacca wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

Old news (posted in 2017).
https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/

This week every time I opened Chrome I would get the announcement across the top about flash ending soon and if I wanted to disable it now.

I never get that announcement. Just tried it again last night by launching Chrome browser... nada. Perhaps it depends on Chrome Flash setting. Did you set yours to always enable? I think mine is set to Ask first or prompt.

The Infobar popup for me started with Chrome's current Version 76.0.3809.100 (Official Build) (64-bit). At first, I deleted the announcement but now I realize it only appears when first starting Chrome and disappears after leaving the first site it visits. Here's an image:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBw8qGLXYAIcJoq.png

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CraigW wrote:

disappears after leaving the first site it visits.

Does that site have Flash content?

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I've eliminated, and blocked Flash years ago when HTML 5 became prevalent.

It's a useless dinosaur from a by-gone era, and highly insecure.

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No

chewbacca wrote:
CraigW wrote:

disappears after leaving the first site it visits.

Does that site have Flash content?

No, the infobanner "popup" that appears on starting Chrome is there regardless of the page's content.

However, with Flash set to Ask Me with Chrome, a smaller popup arises with the options of Allow or Block when a page has Flash content and this has been present for several recent Chrome versions for PC at least. My Chromebook's latest version is still a 75.xxxx and it does not have the info banner on startup.

Is your Chrome experience with PC, Mac, Chromebook or something else?

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CraigW wrote:
chewbacca wrote:
CraigW wrote:

disappears after leaving the first site it visits.

Does that site have Flash content?

No, the infobanner "popup" that appears on starting Chrome is there regardless of the page's content.

However, with Flash set to Ask Me with Chrome, a smaller popup arises with the options of Allow or Block when a page has Flash content and this has been present for several recent Chrome versions for PC at least. My Chromebook's latest version is still a 75.xxxx and it does not have the info banner on startup.

Is your Chrome experience with PC, Mac, Chromebook or something else?

It's PC. Windows 7 Ultimate edition. I have the latest Chrome browser and never get that Flash reminder.

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Juggernaut wrote:

I've eliminated, and blocked Flash years ago when HTML 5 became prevalent.

If you use Chrome browser on a computer/laptop, you have FlashPlayer built into the browser. It isn't enabled by default.

yes

Yes, flash was set to always play, i used to play a few flash games years ago. I was getting the same banner as CraigW shows in his post, eventually I chose "turn off" and stopped getting the annoying banner. The info said I would be asked if visiting a site with flash whether or not to allow it to run, at least until it's final day of life.

chewbacca wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
chewbacca wrote:

Old news (posted in 2017).
https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-flash-update/

This week every time I opened Chrome I would get the announcement across the top about flash ending soon and if I wanted to disable it now.

I never get that announcement. Just tried it again last night by launching Chrome browser... nada. Perhaps it depends on Chrome Flash setting. Did you set yours to always enable? I think mine is set to Ask first or prompt.

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I know how to trigger Flash notification now. I thought my Flash setting was set to ask first but I was wrong. Mine was set to "Block sites from running Flash (recommended)". That's why I didn't get any notification.

So I changed it to "Ask First" out of curiosity. Close Chrome and relaunch it. Voila! The notification "Flash Player will no longer be supported after December 2020" shows up.

Chrome Flash setting can either be one of the following:

- Block sites from running Flash (recommended)
- Ask first

No such thing as "Always enabled" as I mistakenly thought earlier.

soberbyker wrote:

Yes, flash was set to always play, i used to play a few flash games years ago. I was getting the same banner as CraigW shows in his post, eventually I chose "turn off" and stopped getting the annoying banner. The info said I would be asked if visiting a site with flash whether or not to allow it to run, at least until it's final day of life.

chewbacca wrote:

I never get that announcement. Just tried it again last night by launching Chrome browser... nada. Perhaps it depends on Chrome Flash setting. Did you set yours to always enable? I think mine is set to Ask first or prompt.

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chewbacca wrote:

I know how to trigger Flash notification now...

And yet another mystery solved. wink

Good thing newgrounds is

Good thing newgrounds is archiving lol!

not just chrome

Flash will be phased out not only in Chrome, but in all browsers. YouTube started phasing out flash since January 2015. Security risks are too big to keep it going. The name of the game will be HTML5. So far there is no browser that supports all futures of HTML5 but they are going to get there. And as browsers stop supporting Flash web pages will have to change to non Flash content.

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grzesja wrote:

Flash will be phased out not only in Chrome, but in all browsers. YouTube started phasing out flash since January 2015. Security risks are too big to keep it going. The name of the game will be HTML5. So far there is no browser that supports all futures of HTML5 but they are going to get there. And as browsers stop supporting Flash web pages will have to change to non Flash content.

Only Chrome and Edge browsers have Flash player built into the browser. The rest of the browsers use FlashPlayer plug-in or add-on provided by Adobe. I have never seen any Flash content on YouTube for many years.

going to get interesting

My Security System uses Flash, be interesting how and when Arlo will update its Software to eliminate Flash

1+ year later... FlashPlayer

1+ year later... FlashPlayer is no longer supported and Adobe has warned us all to remove FlashPlayer. Yet I am still seeing FlashPlayer in my Windows 10 default installation... SMH

Thanks Microsoft for leaving a time bomb in my PC.

Remove it, except

chewbacca wrote:

1+ year later... FlashPlayer is no longer supported and Adobe has warned us all to remove FlashPlayer. Yet I am still seeing FlashPlayer in my Windows 10 default installation... SMH

Thanks Microsoft for leaving a time bomb in my PC.

Flash can be removed, takes about 30 seconds using the removal tool by Adobe. See https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-play....

BUT, flash may be needed by Microsoft Edge and I think Mozilla. So there is a separate and distinct Flash install for those components. The Adobe removal tool won’t touch those installs. But as Edge for instance is updated, and no longer needs Flash, its update process will remove the Flash component.

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Easier Flash uninstaller

John from PA wrote:

...Flash can be removed, takes about 30 seconds using the removal tool by Adobe. See https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows.html...

That uninstaller procedure is rather clumsy. To more easily uninstall Flash on Win 10, in the search box in the lower left of the screen type "flash." One of the hits that comes up is a .exe for the Flash uninstaller. Click it, confirm that you want to uninstall Flash, and ten seconds later it's gone. Reboot and you're good to go.

Phil

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Glad it is going away

Has always been somewhat problematic, and constant security concern.

No Flash, but the site works for me...

Lost Anyway wrote:

I will miss it very much on one puzzle page I visit daily
http://www.uclickgames.com/jumble/online/daily/tmjmf
if they don't update the page to work around Adobe pulling the plug.

There is a non-Flash version of the same puzzle, but by comparison, it's not very good. It doesn't look like the newspaper version and is very slow.

I've removed Flash. Your link gives me a 404 Error but the site otherwise seems to work for me and I can access most if not all puzzle types.

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Flash

John from PA wrote:
Lost Anyway wrote:

I will miss it very much on one puzzle page I visit daily
http://www.uclickgames.com/jumble/online/daily/tmjmf
if they don't update the page to work around Adobe pulling the plug.

There is a non-Flash version of the same puzzle, but by comparison, it's not very good. It doesn't look like the newspaper version and is very slow.

I've removed Flash. Your link gives me a 404 Error but the site otherwise seems to work for me and I can access most if not all puzzle types.

Yeah that uclickgames.com site was disabled earlier in 2020, well before the deadline. At that time I removed Flash from Windows. The major web browsers including Chrome, Edge, and Firefox either block Flash or at least no longer support it by default, if they're up-to-date on one's PC.

Those who really want to nuke all traces of Adobe Flash from a PC's Windows OS (to me, this is beating a dead horse if you've uninstalled Flash from Windows and have an up-to-date browser, but for those who want to do this), here's a forum thread with more info on it:
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/how-to-be-sure-flash-p...

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Microsoft released a patch

Microsoft released a patch to remove Flash Player in October 2020
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4577586/update-for-...

I have been waiting for the patch for months but it never shows up. I don't think it will be downloaded and installed automatically.

Downloaded and install for my Win10 ver 1909. It nuked the entire Macromed folder from C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ where FlashPlayer.OCX etc is stored.

I'm not sure I would have considered it a patch

chewbacca wrote:

Microsoft released a patch to remove Flash Player in October 2020
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4577586/update-for-...

I have been waiting for the patch for months but it never shows up. I don't think it will be downloaded and installed automatically.

Downloaded and install for my Win10 ver 1909. It nuked the entire Macromed folder from C:WindowsSysWOW64 where FlashPlayer.OCX etc is stored.

I don't think what you refer to (dated October 20th) was ever intended to be released as a patch, rather it was an optional download and the info regarding it was updated on October 27th. For the removal of Flash from any given Windows version, go to the Microsoft Download Catalog at https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=45775...

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Belarc report

plunder wrote:
John from PA wrote:

...Flash can be removed, takes about 30 seconds using the removal tool by Adobe. See https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows.html...

That uninstaller procedure is rather clumsy. To more easily uninstall Flash on Win 10, in the search box in the lower left of the screen type "flash." One of the hits that comes up is a .exe for the Flash uninstaller. Click it, confirm that you want to uninstall Flash, and ten seconds later it's gone. Reboot and you're good to go.

Phil

Okay,so I ran the Flash uninstaller as I indicated above, but upon running the Belarc system reportj ust now I see a line item under installed products that says:

Adobe - Shockwave Flash version 32,0,0,445 (32/64-bit)

I don't know what to think about that except that the report also says it hasn't been used in over a year. I guess I've officially stopped caring about Flash so as to not spend another brain cell thinking about it.

Phil

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Removing Shockwave

plunder wrote:

Okay,so I ran the Flash uninstaller as I indicated above, but upon running the Belarc system reportj ust now I see a line item under installed products that says:

Adobe - Shockwave Flash version 32,0,0,445 (32/64-bit)

I don't know what to think about that except that the report also says it hasn't been used in over a year. I guess I've officially stopped caring about Flash so as to not spend another brain cell thinking about it.

Phil

Several companies were involved in developing Flash including the most recent one, Adobe, and Shockwave is a similar and related platform Adobe inherited. I don't know if this works differently than the Adobe uninstaller you already used to remove Flash, but this Adobe webpage is a different web address than you linked to for the Flash uninstaller, and this one says it removes Shockwave as well as Flash. Might be worth a try, though as you suggest, you're probably safe anyway:
https://helpx.adobe.com/ee/enterprise/kb/uninstall-flash-and...

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plunder wrote:

Okay,so I ran the Flash uninstaller as I indicated above, but upon running the Belarc system reportj ust now I see a line item under installed products that says:

Adobe - Shockwave Flash version 32,0,0,445 (32/64-bit)

I don't know what to think about that except that the report also says it hasn't been used in over a year. I guess I've officially stopped caring about Flash so as to not spend another brain cell thinking about it.

Phil

FYI
Shockwave and Flash Player are 2 different products. If Shockwave listed in the Add/Remove Programs, uninstall it.

Remove Flash & Shockwave any browser

I believe the procedures at https://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-uninstall-flash-shock... will address uninstalling Flash and Shockwave on virtually any browser.

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Inevitable

Inevitable but disappointing nonetheless. There are some educational websites that still had value despite them running Flash. I realize there are better options than Flash but I haven't yet found better websites that incorporate those options.

They had plenty of time...

sydric wrote:

Inevitable but disappointing nonetheless. There are some educational websites that still had value despite them running Flash. I realize there are better options than Flash but I haven't yet found better websites that incorporate those options.

It was announced in July of 2017 that Flash would end on December 31st 2020 so the sites you are referring to had plenty of time to address the issue.

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