CES 2019

 

Anyone going to CES next month? I will be going and I'm anxiously awaiting beating up on the sales rep at the Garmin booth. He said last year there would be new automotive releases last spring and of course nothing was released. If anything, they dropped a few models (DriveLuxe for example). Anyway, curious to see others impressions if they go to the booth.

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Garmin: GPSIII / StreetPilot / StreetPilot Color Map / StreetPilot III / StreetPilot 2610 / GPSMAP60CSx / Nuvi 770 / Nuvi 765T / Nuvi 3490LMT * Pioneer: AVIC-80 / N3 / X950BH

Apps.

I would be interested in knowing if Garmin has any plans for a Garmin navigation app (other than Smartphone Link of course), especially something that might be supported in Android Auto and Apple Car Play.

Enjoy your CES event. I look forward to your report.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Ditto

alandb wrote:

I would be interested in knowing if Garmin has any plans for a Garmin navigation app (other than Smartphone Link of course), especially something that might be supported in Android Auto and Apple Car Play.

Enjoy your CES event. I look forward to your report.

Garmin has a prominent presence in built-in GPSRs for autos. An Android-Auto interface for a (wishful-thinking) revived Viago would be quite nice.

CES 2019

Preroll wrote:

Anyone going to CES next month?...

No, I have never been there, but I will be in Las Vegas soon.

Are there some specific features you would like to see them add or are you just hoping that anything new will be released?

I used to think a Garmin auto GPS that could be removed from its powered mount and then work as an Android tablet would be slick. They have, or at least had them in some non-US countries, but it never made it here in the states.

I suppose the flip side is, what Android tablets have the absolute best mounts available for them these days? Maybe running a good 5 inch Android tablet, with Google maps, is simpler.

For that matter, what larger smartphones (phablets) have really great auto mounts available for them?

bu.. but.. but..

Pillowcase wrote:
alandb wrote:

I would be interested in knowing if Garmin has any plans for a Garmin navigation app (other than Smartphone Link of course), especially something that might be supported in Android Auto and Apple Car Play.

Enjoy your CES event. I look forward to your report.

Garmin has a prominent presence in built-in GPSRs for autos. An Android-Auto interface for a (wishful-thinking) revived Viago would be quite nice.

If I understand it correctly ( and I may not) I beleive garmin licences the hardware spec's to an auto company and its upto the au to dealer to decide how to build the xevic. I'm not sure how much control garmin has abou the builnd.

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Never argue with a pig. It makes you look foolish and it anoys the hell out of the pig!

Yes an Android Auto app

Please ask about that and if there will be downloads of the full maps to the phone instead of using data to run the mapping app? With cell phone RAM these days a full download of the mapping data should be no problem. Leave out the POI if they have to, that can be easily looked up on the phone at any time, or even integrate a search feature into the app. Wishful thinking?

I miss going to CES

It was very enjoyable going to all the CES shows when I lived in Las Vegas, but haven't been to it for the last couple of years. Please keep us posted if there's anything newsworthy. Have fun!

I am not sure. Still need to

I am not sure. Still need to check

Sorry to say this is the

Sorry to say this is the first year that I will miss going to Las Vegas for CES and and visiting the Garmin Booth

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT

Map app

There's a few offline map apps out there and Google maps can be downloaded for out of local data areas. I use MAPS.ME, it's not quite as dense as Google maps and the routing engine is not quite as excellent as Garmin, but it's pretty good overall. The real shame is my cheap handset that has a crappy GPS and loses signal in the weirdest places.

not holding my breath

not holding my breath

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Garmin DriveLuxe 51 LTM-S

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Be interesting to see what Garmin Does.

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I don't need any new Garmin automobile GPS devices. I have a Garmin Nuvi 3597 and a Garmin DriveLuxe 51. However, if they were to offer some additional features, at a reasonable price, I might consider it.

For example, if they had a 6 or 7 inch gps that becomes an Android tablet, I might consider it. Yes, I realize it is unlikely, but I am just throwing it out there for discussion.

Also,, if they were to offer a built in two way radio, in an automobile GPS, I might consider it. The RINOs have FRS/GMRS in them, so I suppose that would be the likely frequency range, if they ever did it. Think how handy that would be when you are caravanning with others to be able to see each others location on a screen.

Or, take it one step further, have a two way radio feature built in that uses cell data, connected via Bluetooth, that would allow you to see friends locations when they sign in. You could have a "meet halfway feature", too. With a cell phone walkie-talkie app, you could have a push to talk feature integrated into the GPS. It could sort of be a mobile or dashboard version of the Garmin RINO.

Or, replicate the Garmin Monterra, but update it with the most current Android OS. A mobile/dashboard version of a Garmin Monterra, with a larger screen, could be quite handy, too.

For folks that have to stay in touch, have an option InReach feature that allows satellite communication. Sort of a mobile/dashboard version of the current InReach.

I really think that the price has to be reasonable, though, or people are going to look elsewhere.

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The 3597 has been out for a pretty long time.

I hope Garmin comes out with a new updated unit with all the bells and whistles to replace it.

They did ...

pratzert wrote:

The 3597 has been out for a pretty long time.

I hope Garmin comes out with a new updated unit with all the bells and whistles to replace it.

Garmin did come out with a replacement for the 3597 … the DriveLuxe series (50 and 51 models). They discontinued and sold out the newest DriveLuxe 51 model very early in its lifespan with no replacement unit. So I think it is unlikely that Garmin will introduce a new high-end automotive device.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

All I Could Find Out

So I went to CES and had a pretty dismal experience at the Garmin booth. The rep I know at the booth was in a hurry to catch his flight out and so I didn’t get a chance to chat with him. I tracked down two other reps to find out that both were pretty clueless to their own products. I knew more about Garmin auto navigators then they did. For example, when asking a question regarding traffic, the guy said that all traffic is now built into the unit. I looked at him and said really? Why does it include a traffic cable then? He looked and said, oh. Then he ran away to catch his flight without a response. Somebody like that should not be representing the company.

So, long story longer, I spent a little time investigating the three units and found that the 5.5” (for me) would be the one to go with. The resolution was great (1200x720). The edge to edge display was appealing as well. As for powered mounts, they are gone. The second rep who had a little more knowledge than the first confirmed it. I also asked about lifetime maps. He said even though the model numbers don’t include LMT anymore, they are still supporting lifetime map updates. The next question I had was regarding updates and of course you can update via Wi-Fi or the old way by hooking up to a PC via USB. I was also curious to find out about Garmin POI’s and the rep knew little about them but said POI Loader should still work (I think more users here would know the answer better than he or I did). I also was curious to see if any weather info came from the traffic cable since I read that someplace and he said app only. Anybody here know for sure?

The last big question from me was regarding switching from MTP to Mass Storage Mode. The rep knew nothing about it. I tried the usual steps to get to the config page and it still works like in the past with the exception that MTP mode is under another sub menu (comparing against my old 3490). Only difference I noticed is that it no longer says Mass Storage Mode. It says USB Ethernet. Since he was no help, am I to assume that is Mass Storage Mode?

They really need to generate a comparison chart for these three units since when you click on their website, the options change. For example click the dash cam option and it will un-highlight from the 5.5” model. Click something else and it will change the other options. It can be confusing when trying to select a model.

OK, wish I had more but without getting any real assistance from knowledgeable people, it was a challenge.

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Garmin: GPSIII / StreetPilot / StreetPilot Color Map / StreetPilot III / StreetPilot 2610 / GPSMAP60CSx / Nuvi 770 / Nuvi 765T / Nuvi 3490LMT * Pioneer: AVIC-80 / N3 / X950BH

I'm pretty underwhelmed by

I'm pretty underwhelmed by the new units. I have a drive Assist 50, and the only reason to upgrade to the 51 would be for the wifi updates. There's really no other difference otherwise!

It looks like their new line doesn't even have something comparable to the drive assist. I'd have to get a dash cam separate from the GPS (although the price also appears to be much cheaper and the price of a dedicated dashcam + new GPS is about the same as the price of the drive assist).

sad

Garmin showing their wares with inexperienced uninterested representatives what better way to ruin a company that's already having problems in this very competitive field !

@Preroll

Thanks for your experience while visiting the Garmin booth at the CES 2019 show.

Indeed this was quite disappointing from the Garmin staff they chose to represent them. Having such little knowledge about their newest products will certainly not be profitable for Garmin if intend to increase their sales numbers regarding automotive units.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

Business decision.

I suspect Garmin is staffing their CES booth with people that are knowledgeable in their watches and fitness products. That choice reflects where customer interest is these days. There are probably not many people attending CES any more whose primary interest is GPS road navigation.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon