Big Brother, Big Time

 

Here's an article in today's Washington Examiner that should alarm folks:

DC Expanding Public Surveillance Camera Net

Big Brother may already be watching you in the District, and he will soon have a lot more eyes trained in your direction.
The city's homeland security agency is planning to add thousands of security cameras from private businesses around the nation's capital and the Metro system to the thousands of electronic eyes that authorities are already monitoring 24/7.

D.C.'s Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency has already centralized the feeds from more than 4,500 cameras operated by the District's department of transportation and school system. Those feeds are watched around the clock by officials from those departments who sit together in homeland security's Joint All-Hazards Operation Center.

By bringing feeds from thousands more cameras to the central watching room through links to cameras at businesses such as banks, corner stores and gas stations, the District is joining other big cities like London, New York and Baltimore that in recent years have turned to cameras to fight crime and terrorism. But critics worry the District's government might be going too far.

SHARPER VISION
The long-term plan is to feed the thousands of cameras being monitored into a single system called Video Interoperability for Public Safety. When the nearly $1 million system is activated, its capabilities will include:
> Bringing up images from security cameras near where the police department's "Shot Spotter" system detects gunfire.
> Detecting whether a vehicle is traveling the wrong way down a one-way street.
> Identifying objects (bags, for example) that are left behind.
Source: D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency
"The D.C. effort to link public and private watching capabilities might be viewed as excessive," said Jeffrey Rosen, a law professor at George Washington University who studies the balance between security and civil liberties. "It would make it hard to find a place in the city where people aren't being watched by cameras."

"It sounds like Big Brother to me," Maryland resident James Dewitt said Wednesday on the streets of downtown Washington, referencing George Orwell's novel foreseeing a society oppressed by a government that tracks everyone. "We're heading to '1984.' It's 2011, but we're heading to 1984."

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/01/dc-expanding-...

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As long as the crime rate

As long as the crime rate plumets and the conviction rate sky rockets then all is good.

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technically...

Tuckahoemike wrote:

Here's an article in today's Washington Examiner that should alarm folks:

DC Expanding Public Surveillance Camera Net

SHARPER VISION
The long-term plan is to feed the thousands of cameras being monitored into a single system called Video Interoperability for Public Safety. When the nearly $1 million system is activated, its capabilities will include:
> Bringing up images from security cameras near where the police department's "Shot Spotter" system detects gunfire.
> Detecting whether a vehicle is traveling the wrong way down a one-way street.
> Identifying objects (bags, for example) that are left behind.
Source: D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency
"The D.C. effort to link public and private watching capabilities might be viewed as excessive," said Jeffrey Rosen, a law professor at George Washington University who studies the balance between security and civil liberties. "It would make it hard to find a place in the city where people aren't being watched by cameras."

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc/2011/01/dc-expanding-its-public-surveillance-camera-network#ixzz1BaoU66ZW

Technically it will be a crap-shoot. There are no standards regarding the resolution or format of cameras that can be applied to private installations. The other major hurdle is the owner of the system would have to agree to provide a link. The one thing that is not even discussed is the tremendous monthly recurring cost of all those lines between the thousands of private installations and the monitoring center.

IMHO it's more of a gee-whiz this would be nice if we could do this but anyone can draw lines on a chalkboard. It's connecting them in the real world that's difficult.

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who is that?

I'm buying an Obama and a Bush mask, be wearing one or the other everytime I go outside.

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Cameras

flaco wrote:

I'm buying an Obama and a Bush mask, be wearing one or the other everytime I go outside.

How about one on the back and one on the front at the same time.

YouFlatscreen

mdh31951 wrote:
flaco wrote:

I'm buying an Obama and a Bush mask, be wearing one or the other every time I go outside.

How about one on the back and one on the front at the same time.

You'll be one of the first to be stopped and questioned, no doubt. They don't talk about tie-ing in facial recognition, but that's so obvious it need not be discussed.

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say cheese...

Aero_Jonno wrote:

They don't talk about tie-ing in facial recognition, but that's so obvious it need not be discussed.

Without facial recognition the system will be useless, otherwise hire one person to watch each monitor, no bathroom or smoke break allowed.

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B.O.H.I.C.A.

Just stay out of my pockets, my house, my not so stable mind, my kitchen (michelle) and I really don't care.

Not TOO Bad

vmfa531 wrote:

Just stay out of my pockets, my house, my not so stable mind, my kitchen (michelle) and I really don't care.

Well, I guess the stated purpose is fairly harmless: snapping photos when gunshot is detected, identifying drivers going the wrong way on one-way streets, and detecting unattended packages. If it remains there, they'll stay out of your kitchen! Let's hope anyway...

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Not To Bad ?

Tuckahoemike wrote:
vmfa531 wrote:

Just stay out of my pockets, my house, my not so stable mind, my kitchen (michelle) and I really don't care.

Well, I guess the stated purpose is fairly harmless: snapping photos when gunshot is detected, identifying drivers going the wrong way on one-way streets, and detecting unattended packages. If it remains there, they'll stay out of your kitchen! Let's hope anyway...

Each little bite of the apple it gets worse and worse then you wake up one day and all of your rights are gone.

lets all wear a guy fawkes mask. everyone

the govt is just so smart to look after all of us *rolls eyes*

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IIRC

If I remember correctly there have been a number of studies coming out of Great Briton(the most surveilled country on earth) showing that the cameras do not deter crime. However they have been useful in providing evidence after the fact. I believe the massive amounts of money being spent to install cameras here in NYC and the USA could be better spent on other crime prevention measures. In addition the "creep" factor of having all my actions in public being on camera pisses me off.

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double standard

Everyone gets in a tizzy when cameras are installed, but think nothing of publicizing their lives on youtube and social networks.

Double Standart

twix wrote:

Everyone gets in a tizzy when cameras are installed, but think nothing of publicizing their lives on youtube and social networks.

It is kind of hard to disagree with this,but I do when you go to social sites that is a choice you make,when you go out and get your picture taken by every camera in town that is not by your choice.

Big brother and big mamma

Unfortunately it has crossed my mind that someone somewhere won't be satisfied until they are able to monitor my sleeping habits and God know what else. Though I will empty the closet well before that day. I really do live by our constitution. Dang it, there I go again politics.

I myself

Am contemplating changing my name to Winston Smith. Of course I don't smoke, nor drink Gin, so I'm two steps behind.

Off to buy more tin foil for a new hat. grin

Mental checkups.

Double Tap wrote:

If I remember correctly there have been a number of studies coming out of Great Briton(the most surveilled country on earth) showing that the cameras do not deter crime. However they have been useful in providing evidence after the fact. I believe the massive amounts of money being spent to install cameras here in NYC and the USA could be better spent on other crime prevention measures. In addition the "creep" factor of having all my actions in public being on camera pisses me off.

So do your preventitive messures include manditory once a week visits for the entire population to a goverment mental health professional to make sure you are not depressed, upset, angry,....... And they can adjust your dose accordingly Mr. THX1138.

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