SMART PHONE (as a dash cam?)

 
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Nope

Not me.

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Tried but not the most practical for me

I tried but it didn't work well for me since my mount is by my vent. I don't really want it up in the window blocking my view. I guess it depends upon the type of car. However, if you mount it right, I suppose it might be good. Camera probably far surpasses the cheap dashcams out there.

Not to mention if you have to grab your phone for something, it's a pain to keep going back to the cam app.

16g memory

with 16G memory on my iphone, it will fill up relative quickly. So, not an option for me.

I did test a smartphone

I did test a smartphone windshield mount before taking a vacation 2 years ago. Didn't like the result so I returned it. The video is too shaky and it makes me dizzy watching it. I couldn't find a smartphone mount that's good enough to give me steady video.

YouTube Videos

I checked out YouTube and found lots of videos about using a smartphone as a dash cam. It seems that you need a good, permanent, mount to eliminate shaky video and a good app (the majority seemed to use AutoGuard).

Most of the videos actually looked pretty good. The biggest concerns appeared to be:
- battery life (even plugged in, it still drained the battery)
- storage capacity (2Gb - 4Gb for every 10 minutes)
- autofocus (this might be phone dependent)

Everybody probably has an old smartphone from an expired contract lying around, and its certainly cheaper than buying a dedicated dash cam. I might actually try this out.

Smart phone may not be very

Smart phone may not be very suitable device for this purpose. Stand alone dash cams come with other features like collision detection etc. which are not available on phones.

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Clip size

This is probably only an issue on older phones, but early ones often had a 2-4GB clip size which would make those useless for a dashcam. Modern phones may only be limited by available storage, but video sucks that up pretty quickly. Most dashcams loop the video so that the last few hours are always available depending on the size of the memory card. In addition, many purpose built dashcams have built in image stabilization that solves some of the problem that most smartphones would have in that use.

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i tryed it

the view for a driver was to small and you want as little distraction when driving as possible even with turn by turn direction you had to stare at the phone, but with somebody else in the car reading it and giving directions its good ! the garmin gps is larger and easer to glance at I find in busy cities the phone is better to use if there are two people in the car. I wish the gps had look ahead built in when it tells you to take a left hand turn then turn right on the next corner in busy traffic when you cant get over to the other side !

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geo334 wrote:

the view for a driver was to small and you want as little distraction when driving as possible even with turn by turn direction you had to stare at the phone, but with somebody else in the car reading it and giving directions its good ! the garmin gps is larger and easer to glance at I find in busy cities the phone is better to use if there are two people in the car. I wish the gps had look ahead built in when it tells you to take a left hand turn then turn right on the next corner in busy traffic when you cant get over to the other side !

I thought we were talking about using a smartphone as a dashcam.

I used a old one for awhile...

After updating my Android phone, I did in fact use the old phone as a dashcam. I saved the footage to the SD card. Also used the Garmin beanbag holder but with a clip that can hold a phone. Worked quite well.

In fact there are a few apps that turns a phone as a dashcam.. I believe it can even call 911 if a accident occurs. Not sure how that worked. I don't remember what the apps were called but you can go to the play store and search for dashcams and such.

I stopped using it when the old phone died.

I will try to find what those apps were and post later (But I will bet that there will have been a post about those apps before I get to it, lol)

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Here is a list of the 1st 3 that came up..

1st top 3 that was on the list when I searched for DashCams.
BUT there is a LOT more... to many to list.

AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox
Key Features
- (Pro) Background recording: Multitasking with other apps (like navigation)
- Upload videos on YouTube.com with captions for location and time information
- Capture photos at important situation automatically
- Show the video and map information on one screen
- Automatically starts video recording when put into car dock or connect with Bluetooth devices
- Records driving video, speed, GPS, and nearest address
- Supports high resolutions (1080p, 720p)
- Traces path driven on 3D Google maps
- Snapshot (supports auto focus, flash & gallery)
- Send recorded information via E-mail

AutoBoy Dash Cam - BlackBox

1) Key Features
- Continuous Background Recorder (Continue recording as long as the battery is charged in background.
- Three-Full Foreground (Full Screen, Full Recording, Full Files. Recording files' resolution doesn't get low or doesn't create new ones in foreground recording)
- Pause And Background (The world's first application of new technologies continue recording with the same form of background recording)

2) General Features
- Support main theme (Windows8 Style, Round World Style)
- Provide various screen mode (length, width, reverse length, reverse width)
- Support nine languages (Korean, English, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, German, Spanish, Dutch, Turkish)
- Selectable internal / external memory
- Easy background change (Easily can change into background mode for touching or dragging the main screen.)

3) Camera Features
- Zoom
- Focus
- Flash
- Sound on/off
- Exposure set-up
- Effect set-up
- Scene mode selection
- Grid line

4) Recording Features
- Auto deleting record file (Automatically delete old ones and secure the memory when needed memory in recording)
- Support video and photo at the same time
- Snapshot
- SRT Subtitle (Event, time, GPS, address)
- Recording cycle set-up
- Maximum capacity set-up
- Video quality set-up (Auto+User advanced setting)
- User advanced setting in video (Resolution, Encoder, Frame Rate, Bitrate, Audio Quality)

5) Video Administration Features
- Recording files archive (Archived files are excluded from automatic deleting)
- Recording files information (Record time, File Size, Record Location, Resolution, Record Direction, Storage Route)
- Recording files share (Basic sharing in app & Youtube upload)
- Provide deleting the whole / selected ones.
- Provide video player in 3 mode (Video mode, Video+Map mode, Map mode)
- Provide snapshot player (Play video files and snapshot files together)

6) Snapshot Administration Features
- Snapshot gallery
- Provide snapshot folder for each recording files.
- Provide snapshot viewer
- Provide link between snapshot and video player

7) Advanced Features
- GPS Sensor
- Smart crash sensor
- Auto start (Car Dock, Power Connection, Bluetooth, GPS)
- Auto exit (Car Dock, Power Disconnection, Bluetooth, GPS)
- Direct connection with phone gallery
- Widget in main screen (Recording Start, Recording Exit, Video List, Set-up)
- Background preview (Provide Small-size preview that you can see the navigation in background mode or the screen with the other app)
- LED Backlight (Let you know that it's recording through LED flicking in background mode)
- Support the other app execute (For example it can execute navigation and music player together when you start recording)

8) Backup & Youtube
- Youtube backup (Support the backup recording files into my user account in Youtube in manual / automatic way)
- Youtube player (Support player that can see user's video and my video in Youtube)
- Youtube channel making (Support channel making with Youtube login)
- Uploading subtitle files (Can upload subtitle files with recording files)
- Youtube video list (My videos, User's video)

DailyRoads Voyager

Key features:
- Continuous video recording, with user-defined length and video quality; sound can be included
- User-defined storage space on the SD card with cyclic recording; i.e. the card never fills up
- One-touch video retention allows you to keep video files for interesting road events during the whole journey
- Auto retain video upon sudden shock (e.g. accident); configurable g-force sensitivity
- Automatically capture photos at user-defined intervals and resolutions; great for time-lapse photography
- Background video/photo capture, with optional buttons over other applications
- Auto start and shutdown based on car dock detection and related options
- Videos/photos are timestamped & geotagged
- Automatically determine street address of retained videos/photos
- Display videos/photos location on a map
- Display speed, elevation, timestamp and GPS coordinates on videos/photos
- Option to change speed units (km/h, mph) and date format
- Overheating protection
- GPS can be disabled to reduce power consumption
- Brightness adjustment option allows less distraction when driving at night
- Built-in file manager, video/photo browser
- Add title/description/bookmark to files
- Upload files to DailyRoads.com
- App2SD

Have not tried them recent .. Again, there were the 1st three that came up.. There were SO MANY more to look into!

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Bobkz - Garmin Nuvi 3597LMTHD/2455LMT/C530/C580- "Pain Is Fear Leaving The Body - Semper Fidelis"

Garmin Cam vs Smartphone

rthibodaux wrote:

Has anyone use their Smart Phone as a dash cam?

I experimented with that at one time. But I recently bought a Garmin DriveAssist 50LMT which has a dash cam built-in. Compared to a smart phone the quality is much superior. The Garmin cam hardware is designed to be a dash cam and not for general purpose photos, and so autofocus, color balance, clarity, and especially white balance is built-into the hardware.

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Dashcams

Thanks for those helpful reviews

still

haven't broken down and gotten the BlackVue, but I plan to. I wanted to realistically see what videos would show, so I used a Fat Gecko and mounted a Sony camcorder to my glass and recorded. For the most part, it's a 45 to 90 min boring video, for sure. But it does permanently record a lot of activity. Did that school bus run the red light like I thought? Yep, and there it is. It's a poor man's way but if we all have camcorders that do 1080p already, all you need is $30. What's not convenient is having to mount it every time you drive. or turn it on, and off.

Yesterday, my neighbor said he got hit while parked, and he saw the male driver looking down as if he was texting (do we just call it that today, there's lots of things people do, navigate, play games, check weather, email, not just text). Guess what the man told the cop? His EZPass fell off and he ended up swerving and hitting my neighbor. Cop did not see it, couldn't issue a ticket.

Today on the way to work at a light, the car in front, to my side, and my rear, all drivers were looking down doing "something." Cams are needed to establish imho that they are doing something other than driving or paying attention.

If my camcorder works, then so would a smartphone, only my suspicion is the HD would not be as good, but would pass. Why not just get a $25 mount and try? These are the types of mounts those people with YouTube channels use when they film themselves driving, so excellent quality. my .02

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Usable in Court?

johnnatash4 wrote:

Yesterday, my neighbor said he got hit while parked, and he saw the male driver looking down as if he was texting (do we just call it that today, there's lots of things people do, navigate, play games, check weather, email, not just text). Guess what the man told the cop? His EZPass fell off and he ended up swerving and hitting my neighbor. Cop did not see it, couldn't issue a ticket.

Today on the way to work at a light, the car in front, to my side, and my rear, all drivers were looking down doing "something." Cams are needed to establish imho that they are doing something other than driving or paying attention.

If my camcorder works, then so would a smartphone, only my suspicion is the HD would not be as good, but would pass. Why not just get a $25 mount and try? These are the types of mounts those people with YouTube channels use when they film themselves driving, so excellent quality. my .02

Has anyone actually used video from one of these devices in court? Will the law accept it as actual proof of a violation? With today's video editing software, it's possible to change or fake video files.

It certainly would be nice to have video of an event but I wonder how useful it would actually be.

Insurance

bdhsfz6 wrote:

Has anyone actually used video from one of these devices in court? Will the law accept it as actual proof of a violation? With today's video editing software, it's possible to change or fake video files.

It certainly would be nice to have video of an event but I wonder how useful it would actually be.

It's also possible to detect a changed or faked video. Besides, most people outside of Hollywood don't have the ability or the software to create a marginally convincing fake.

My insurance company told me they would accept my Garmin's dashboard cam video for insurance purposes. The video needs to be complete, no crops or editing.

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The law

Where I live any handheld devices which can be used for communications can land you a $ 500.00 ticket. The law reads cellphones can only be used hands free. I would think if a cop would see a cellphone on your dash you'd be ticketed. I'm sure that you could argue until you're blue in the face, you'd lose !

Additionally there is talk that this fine will be doubled soon.

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BillG wrote:
bdhsfz6 wrote:

Has anyone actually used video from one of these devices in court? Will the law accept it as actual proof of a violation? With today's video editing software, it's possible to change or fake video files.

It certainly would be nice to have video of an event but I wonder how useful it would actually be.

It's also possible to detect a changed or faked video. Besides, most people outside of Hollywood don't have the ability or the software to create a marginally convincing fake.

My insurance company told me they would accept my Garmin's dashboard cam video for insurance purposes. The video needs to be complete, no crops or editing.

Considering it would be a crime to submit false information, at what point would a person be willing to commit a felony. Let's go to the extreme, their car is worth $100k retail, and they're paying $1100/yr. to insure it. For some reason, the fraud will get their car fixed, and it will keep their insurance from going up to $1500/yr. for 3 1/2 yrs. Is this worth the risk of jail time. Probably yes, for some, and no for others. But it would seem that having a true video, is better than not. And if someone is going to accuse another of doctoring the video, so be it. At some point, lying has to be caught. Again, here is have a video in 1080 or 1440p, showing you did something wrong. Now you turn around and say, no, that's not a true video, it was edited, he made it look like I was drinking a beer and holding a phone. OK, it's unlikely this is going to the FBI crime lab, but at some point someone is going to have to decide what makes sense. I think people who commit insurance fraud are not bright. But look at all the $200k+ cars that are registered in Montana.