For those using smartphones to navigate, I'm curious

 

do you have unlimited data? How much data does your navigation usually use in the course of a month. My girlfriend and I share 3gb of data per month. That is more than enough for her to use the Square and post items for sale online for her business. I rarely need to use data. I cannot imagine using the smartphone to navigate would be data friendly but have no personal knowledge.

TIA

Ted

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Here Maps

TMK wrote:

do you have unlimited data? How much data does your navigation usually use in the course of a month. My girlfriend and I share 3gb of data per month. That is more than enough for her to use the Square and post items for sale online for her business. I rarely need to use data. I cannot imagine using the smartphone to navigate would be data friendly but have no personal knowledge.

TIA

Ted

For navigation you can use Here Maps for Smartphone. Maps are downloaded to SD card. No data is used at all. https://goo.gl/PW0919 .MapFactor https://goo.gl/DiKbC is another good one.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

No traffic then?

Guess you don't get traffic then as that must use data?

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It's all about the App

If you use an app that stores maps on device, the amount of data you'd use is quite minimal for traffic, or looking things up in the app.

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Thank You!

charlesd45 wrote:
TMK wrote:

do you have unlimited data? How much data does your navigation usually use in the course of a month. My girlfriend and I share 3gb of data per month. That is more than enough for her to use the Square and post items for sale online for her business. I rarely need to use data. I cannot imagine using the smartphone to navigate would be data friendly but have no personal knowledge.

TIA

Ted

For navigation you can use Here Maps for Smartphone. Maps are downloaded to SD card. No data is used at all. https://goo.gl/PW0919 .MapFactor https://goo.gl/DiKbC is another good one.

I'll give it a try

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You may use "Waze" app on

You may use "Waze" app on your phone. It should be OK for data usage.

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Unfortunately, my phone will not allow HereMaps

to store on the SD card...oh, well...seemed like a cool app but not going to jam up my internal storage smile

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SD card

TMK wrote:

to store on the SD card...oh, well...seemed like a cool app but not going to jam up my internal storage smile

Before you give up. Once you install the app. Go into the setting and select download to SD card for the maps. I got same message on another phone I have and that resulted in me finding the setting.

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I did try that

charlesd45 wrote:
TMK wrote:

to store on the SD card...oh, well...seemed like a cool app but not going to jam up my internal storage smile

Before you give up. Once you install the app. Go into the setting and select download to SD card for the maps. I got same message on another phone I have and that resulted in me finding the setting.

my phone HTC Desire 626 will not let the app store to the SD card sad

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sd card

TMK wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:
TMK wrote:

to store on the SD card...oh, well...seemed like a cool app but not going to jam up my internal storage smile

Before you give up. Once you install the app. Go into the setting and select download to SD card for the maps. I got same message on another phone I have and that resulted in me finding the setting.

my phone HTC Desire 626 will not let the app store to the SD card sad

Try the MapFactor it should download to the SD card automatically.

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Nope...

charlesd45 wrote:
TMK wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:
TMK wrote:

to store on the SD card...oh, well...seemed like a cool app but not going to jam up my internal storage smile

Before you give up. Once you install the app. Go into the setting and select download to SD card for the maps. I got same message on another phone I have and that resulted in me finding the setting.

my phone HTC Desire 626 will not let the app store to the SD card sad

Try the MapFactor it should download to the SD card automatically.

won't recognize the SD card...my phone really isn't all that fancy and isn't rooted so that probably is the issue...thanks...appreciate your trying smile

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try CoPilot

I've used CoPilot on both Android tablets and on my Win8.1 smart-phone. I love it. No data required for maps, but need minimal data for traffic.
https://copilotgps.com/us/

There is also a thread here about putting custom pois on it. It's not as easy as Garmin or others, but works well.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31770

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Interesting, I d/l Map factor

then moved it to the SD card and it is now trying to d/l the maps...maybe this will work for those of us without fancy phones smile

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Google Maps will Eat your Data

I found out the hard way how much data can be eaten up in a small amount of time. We also share a 3GB data plan. We learned that if we are going to use something like Google maps with Satellite view, then we can only use it to navigate short distances. When we travel and want real-time traffic data, we bring up WAZE to support our Garmin. Garmin's traffic is nice, but nothing beats real-time user entered traffic.

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TMK wrote:

then moved it to the SD card and it is now trying to d/l the maps...maybe this will work for those of us without fancy phones smile

Can you separate the two (app and offline maps)? Install Here app (or Map Factor) in internal storage and offline map in SD card. Here app itself is about 100MB but offline maps use a lot more than that depending on your choice. I can't test it because mine does not use SD card.

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I've found Google maps to use very minimal data online. You can also store specified areas offline (useful in areas without network or when roaming internationally).

I agree

I agree Google Maps doesn't seem to use a lot of data. I was using Here on my phone because I was afraid of using all my data if I used Google. I recently started to use Google through my GM vehicle's WiFi Hotspot facility and was amazed at how little data I was actually using as recorded in Onstar's Remotelink android software on my phone.

By the way I always use Google Maps in satellite view mode.

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Not always

Holydoc wrote:

Garmin's traffic is nice, but nothing beats real-time user entered traffic.

Well it depends on which Garmin traffic, and where you are. Digital traffic here in the UK is spot on smile

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sussamb wrote:
Holydoc wrote:

Garmin's traffic is nice, but nothing beats real-time user entered traffic.

Well it depends on which Garmin traffic, and where you are. Digital traffic here in the UK is spot on smile

Here in the U.S. Digital traffic is not very good at all IMO. It's not available in most places and when you are in an area where it is available it is a huge disappointment. I get a lot of outdated or incorrect traffic information from Digital traffic. I gave up on it after a year of trying it and wanting to like it when I first bought my Garmin Nuvi.

UK is a lot smaller and has a more compact population than the U.S. So I can definitely see it working a lot better there.

Waze uses surprisingly little data IMO

What follows is a repost of material I posted in a Waze thread in January following a cross-country drive. I specifically tallied our data use running Waze (a popular and generally reliable smartphone navigation and traffic monitoring app) during the trip. We do not have unlimited data, but a family of four with six devices shares a bucket of 10 gigs per month. Waze used much less data than I would have predicted:

"We drove 2900 miles over five days, about nine hours of using Waze per day. The total wireless data use Waze consumed was 113 MB, or about 2.5 MB per hour. Not bad at all.

I should note that I did not report stuff on Waze and only occasionally [when my wife was driving] confirmed problems such as a vehicle on the side of the road. I did not exchange messages with other Wazers. Those things could make data use a bit higher, though I doubt it would be a big hit.

Also I did this on major interstate highways with a basic iPhone 6 and Verizon. Different locations, phones, cellular providers could certainly register different rates of data use. [And entering different destinations each hour as opposed to once each day as I did, forcing more navigation calculations, could increase data use beyond what we experienced.]

Granted, if your data plan limits you to one or two GB of data per month, you might need to be concerned about even this level of data use. But most people, driving fewer hours in a week than I did and with larger data plans, can absorb this hit without getting into a data overcharge situation. If you're driving in an area without cell phone coverage from your provider (primarily an issue out West or in other rural areas away from interstate highways), be sure you've turned off data roaming on your phone before Wazing back roads so you don't get charged for roaming data use. This is not a problem on main drags or urban or suburban areas at least with Verizon."

I should also add that if you are running a different navigation/traffic app on a smartphone, your results may be very different. Definitely run your own test and see what happens before running it for hours each day for a month to avoid an unpleasant billing surprise.

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I have unlimited

With Verizon...out of spite I used 30 gb last month. But normally I would be around 2. Navigation likely uses some as I remember a coworker going to Mepxico and getting socked with a 2k bill, that was when 1mb was $20.48 though. Today divide by 10

No

chewbacca wrote:
TMK wrote:

then moved it to the SD card and it is now trying to d/l the maps...maybe this will work for those of us without fancy phones smile

Can you separate the two (app and offline maps)? Install Here app (or Map Factor) in internal storage and offline map in SD card. Here app itself is about 100MB but offline maps use a lot more than that depending on your choice. I can't test it because mine does not use SD card.

my phone does not permit HereMaps to d/l or move the maps to the SD card.

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Well, the idea didn't work...

TMK wrote:

then moved it to the SD card and it is now trying to d/l the maps...maybe this will work for those of us without fancy phones smile

With Navigator, the d/l stalled twice and I just gave up...the US maps are pretty big so after the first fail I tried just doing the maps for PA and NJ...stalled again.

I may try again when I have nothing better to do as it would be nice to have a convenient walk-around GPS that uses offline maps!

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double tap...sorry...is there some reason we can't have a delete function?

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MapFactor

TMK wrote:
TMK wrote:

then moved it to the SD card and it is now trying to d/l the maps...maybe this will work for those of us without fancy phones smile

With Navigator, the d/l stalled twice and I just gave up...the US maps are pretty big so after the first fail I tried just doing the maps for PA and NJ...stalled again.

I may try again when I have nothing better to do as it would be nice to have a convenient walk-around GPS that uses offline maps!

May want to do what I do set up DL late at night,go to bed and get up in the morning with it completed. Here is the forum site.They are pretty good about getting back on the posts http://forum.mapfactor.com/discussions .They do have red light cameras available to put with the maps. You can download the ones from POI Factory and use. A lot different method to install compared to Garmin.Also you can install custom pois.The process is on the forum.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. Android Here WeGo - Offline Maps & GPS.

App shows all GPS app for Android.

I found this app that will list all the GPS apps that are out there and they add new ones when one comes out. They break down the apps for Offline and online maps.

The app is called:

Navigation
Made by "Navigation Map"

"Navigation is a free Android application providing you easy and fast access to GPS Navigation apps. You can choose from Offline Maps or Online Maps depending on your preference. Maps will always choose the best route to get you to your destination faster."

This has a list of over 24 other apps that will show you both Offline navigation and online Navigation.

Some of the Offline lists contains:
Sygic, Here Maps, Offline Navigation, Maps.Me, GPS Navigation, BeOnRoad, MapFactor, TomTom, Route 66, CoPiot GPS, Navmil GPS, Aponia, And More!

Some of the online Navigation apps are:
Waze, Google Map, Google Street Maps, OsmAnd Maps, Yandex.Navigation, GPS Navigation, Maps and Navigation, WisePilot, GPS Driving, 7 Ways Navigation, Easy GPS Navigation, and more

I like this app because I can download one of the GPS apps when needed then after done, delete it but keep this so I can quickly find it again.

Just sharing my find!

Hope this link works to the Google Play Store,

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gps.navigation...

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Waze

I sometimes use Waze along with my GPS to compare the routes. also, Waze reroutes faster if there is a traffic issue. I don't see a big drain on my data.

Satellite View during navigation

Holydoc wrote:

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We learned that if we are going to use something like Google maps with Satellite view, then we can only use it to navigate short distances.

Satellite view will indeed use quite a bit of data. The standard map display does not. Just turn off the satellite view when you need to navigate with your phone.

I am using WAZE on Android - with no data plan

I do not know if you have tried it, but WAZE is one of the very best apps I found on Android. Without a data plan, I only set my route when the phone is connected to Wifi. All the police stops, whether visible or hidden, traffic jams, and other street condition alerts are very good.

Of course, without a data connection, I cannot get live update while on the street. When it comes to data, the live update does not require much, I assume.

Anyway, just my experience with the app. You can check it for yourself. If you dislike it, leave a comment to voice your disappointment (which I am pretty sure is quite unlikely) before uninstall the app. On the other hand, if the app is good, it is worth the effort.

I use Google Maps

because Garmin traffic is practically worthless where I live.

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Needed

Manwithfaith wrote:

Of course, without a data connection, I cannot get live update while on the street.

Which in my view is essential. Thankfully where I am Garmin's digital traffic is excellent smile

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Good and Bad of WAZE

They are many things that Waze as a good features and many more that I do not even know why they are there..

Let's start with the good one..

1) Police location,what ever if they are visible or hidden and you report them too, you will get points+ thanks from other Wazer.

2) Traffic reporting and location,they are very accurate.

3) Very good for accident reports.

4) keep in mind that when you report accident-police-traffic-gas price, Road Hazard,Map Issue,or Road Closure you always will accumulate points.

5) the Reason for the point will increase your level. most point will be accredit from monday to monday - after your level is increase they will be calculate daily.

6) you also get points by driving over a CANDY when it show,you must drive over the Candy location if you don'T you must wait till the next one show up some other day.

7) Waze require registration (not many users happy about this one)
HERE COMES THE BAD ONES.

1)GAS price never accurate always wrong,if you click on the main screen under GAS PRICE it will show a Gas Station near you, it will show you the Gas Price and it will ask you if that price is correct or not,if it is not you enter the correct prize, and again you will credits point for it.But remember it will show you the gas station near you,if you want more gas station price you need to do a search,and those price are also wrong.

2) speed limit..it only show the speed that you are driving and not the speed limit posted on the road.

3) Chat Request ??should not be a chat request if you are driving is a distraction.

4) GPS I used as a Gps at the same time that I was using my Garmin GPS- it ask me to make illegal U turn-ask me to go to wrong direction-when you arrive on your destination does not tell you if the destination is on the right or left side of the road-but it will show on the phone an icon I guess you must take your eyes off the road to look at your phone

5)Registration.. keep in mind the reason they are asking for your registration is for for 2 reason,ones you register,you must enter your phone number you can chat or thanks others wazer user while on the road,you can also add them to your contact as friends. BUT ONE MAJOR things got most people mad is that all the contact from your phone will be also be visible to stranger,and this as been causing people to drop WAZE from the phone..

6)What is the reason that you are rewarded with points and have increased your level ? (HAVE NO IDEA)

7) For those who do not know the Company who create WAZE reside and it still operate from ISRAEL (purchase BY GOOGLE for $1.3 Billions)

And finaly I am not a register users on Waze,no reason to register and still get the same benefit.

I also use google maps with

I also use google maps with my iPhone for short distances. Then for long distances, I pull out the old Garmin

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I have unlimited. However,

I have unlimited. However, sometimes I travel internationally and I download maps using HERE. Google maps I'll definitely use to get around town. At one point I was using 2G speed to use Google Maps, which is doable. I think less than 500 MB of use per month.

Gas prices

Driver 38 wrote:

They are many things that Waze as a good features and many more that I do not even know why they are there..

HERE COMES THE BAD ONES.

1)GAS price never accurate always wrong,if you click on the main screen under GAS PRICE it will show a Gas Station near you, it will show you the Gas Price and it will ask you if that price is correct or not,if it is not you enter the correct prize, and again you will credits point for it.But remember it will show you the gas station near you,if you want more gas station price you need to do a search,and those price are also wrong.

Yeah, a much better smartphone app for finding local gas prices at any location is GasBuddy, also free to download and use. Tap a button and it shows you the prices for each gas station nearby. This app also relies on user-submitted data, but it's usually quite accurate. When it's wrong it's usually because either:

1. The gas station *just* changed its price, and nobody updated it yet.

2. The station is in a relatively untraveled area that doesn't get a lot of reports, and the price is out-of-date.

3. A user submitted incorrect data. This usually gets corrected quickly though by another user.

In busy areas incorrect price data is usually fixed within half an hour.

I laughed at your description of what levels and points are for in Waze. You don't HAVE to stay logged in with registration to use Waze, but they strongly push you to do so with various features that unlock if you do including levels and points that don't seem to be good for much. The real reason you're encouraged to be a registered, logged-in user to Waze is so that Google (who owns Waze) can better track you via your phone no matter what you're doing. But you can receive all traffic and hazard reports on Waze whether you login or not. I run Waze anonymously and don't miss the features, including Waze's gas price reports, that stay locked when I do that.

I also turn off Waze's location services when I'm not running the app--note that unlike most apps which allow location tracking to be on only when the app is running, Waze either allows it always or never, so turning off location services for Waze when not running the app has to be done manually in the settings menu for the smartphone--further evidence of Google's aim with this app. Google probably knows where I am anyway, but I don't want to make it any easier for them, so I leave it off when the app isn't running. It's hard to stay out of Google's data-sweeping clutches.

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JMoo On

phone

I use the WAZE on my phone almost exclusively for car navigation now. I like the roadside hazard reports, and where the police are hiding.
I never checked how much data it uses...Im on a company phone. However the Waze does use a lot of battery and I make sure its plugged into the charger when I'm using it.

not much data at all

I have used maps on my Samsung phones for a couple years when in my personal car and have never had an issue with data. I have a 10 GB plan and normally use about 3 GB a month and only about .5 GB being from my phone.

Also

dagarmin wrote:

I also turn off Waze's location services when I'm not running the app--note that unlike most apps which allow location tracking to be on only when the app is running, Waze either allows it always or never, so turning off location services for Waze when not running the app has to be done manually in the settings menu for the smartphone--further evidence of Google's aim with this app. Google probably knows where I am anyway, but I don't want to make it any easier for them, so I leave it off when the app isn't running. It's hard to stay out of Google's data-sweeping clutches.

When you're done using Waze, just close the app. Don't just 'put it to sleep'...

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dagarmin wrote:

Yeah, a much better smartphone app for finding local gas prices at any location is GasBuddy, also free to download and use.

Yeah, Gasbuddy is the most accurate price reporting app.

dagarmin wrote:

You don't HAVE to stay logged in with registration to use Waze,

but how am I supposed to get those yummy candies if I'm not logged in? I chase those candies wherever I go.

Finding Candy on WAZE

Just turn waze on (non need to enter any destinationor any registration ) just drive and if you see a candy on the map just drive over it.
If the candy show up on the road just drive over it.
If show up on specific location,like it happened to me it show up on a Gas station, then you must pull over the gas station to get it.when you do you will hear a bell sound. If you miss the candy location and,it will show up again some other day.

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To see your score, what is your level or how many point have you accumulate do this.

1) Turn waze on

2) click on the blue icon lower left side

3) New screen will open click on the top middle (your self) icon or your picture if you have one.

4)New screen will open scroll UP and select SCOREBOARD

5) there it will show your point,your rank and how many point you need to get to the next level.

NEW WAZE UPDATE

A New Waze update is avaiable..Just go to the app store select free app-select waze and it will show Install again even if you have already.let it do it. The new update will NOT ERASE you waze status. Your status still will be the same..

What is in the new update.

In the lower middle screen next to your welcome ,like good morning or afternoon it will show a sound icon like a speaker,there you select if you want SOUND ON-ALERT ONLY- OR SOUND OFF.

Smartphone Navigation

We have a 40 GB shared among 4 phones, all iPhones.
Never even consider how much data I use these days since we have so much.
I'll look for a WiFi when traveling but, I won't look very hard. Just use data.
My Garmin works well for general navigation. However, I use the phone to find restaurants, motels, shopping, etc. Frequently using the satellite map feature to help local navigation around a city or town. I never use the phone as a highway GPS since the Garmin screen is much easier to see.

WAZE data use

I used WAZE recently on just about all of a 620 trip and it used about .3 gig of data. I was very pleased at this low amount. I don't know hot much the normal Google maps would use. I use WAZE along with the Garmin. I have a 6 gig a month plan that my wife and i share.

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We

We are leaving Sunday Apr 3 from our winter home in Arizona to return to our summer place in British Columbia Canada. As I posted earlier in this thread I'm using Google Maps with my Galaxy S4 connected to the internet via the WiFi Hotspot facility in my GM vehicle. This 1700 to 1800 mile trip should give me a very good idea of how much of my 10GB data plan is being used by the Google applications. I'll let you know when we complete our trip.

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Good information.

Good information.

Google Maps--

It may have snuck in with the last update, but the most recent iPhone/iPad update for Google Maps offers offline map storage. The downloaded map for our area (Silicon Valley) was only a few hundred mb.

Not too many years ago, that was a LOT of storage -- now it's practically rounding error, even in a handheld device...

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I used Google Maps once

k6rtm wrote:

It may have snuck in with the last update, but the most recent iPhone/iPad update for Google Maps offers offline map storage. The downloaded map for our area (Silicon Valley) was only a few hundred mb.

Not too many years ago, that was a LOT of storage -- now it's practically rounding error, even in a handheld device...

with my HTC Android...going to look for the offline maps for my area...thanks for the heads up!

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Just

Just got back from our 1700 miles trip from Arizona to British Columbia . Using Google Maps in satellite view on my Galaxy S4 phone for navigation the whole trip I used 2.8 GB of data according to OnStar's RemoteLink . Not real sure if that's good or bad but should give folks an idea of the data usage with Google Maps.

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Satellite view is a data hog..

t923347 wrote:

Just got back from our 1700 miles trip from Arizona to British Columbia . Using Google Maps in satellite view on my Galaxy S4 phone for navigation the whole trip I used 2.8 GB of data according to OnStar's RemoteLink . Not real sure if that's good or bad but should give folks an idea of the data usage with Google Maps.

Google Maps in satellite view is a definite data hog. I only use Google Maps in the regular view. You would have probably used 700 to 900 MB of data in regular view. But it is cool to get an idea of how much data I would use in satellite view on a trip of 1700 miles or more.

Satellite view confuses me.

Satellite view confuses me. Regular map view looks a lot cleaner.

Nothing like good ole reliable...

I love my stand alone garmin unit.

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