Garmin or Rand McNally Back up camera

 

I just unboxed a Garmin RV660 and find that it won't talk to my ASUS T100T tablet/notebook (Win 10.1) on the USB port, in either MTP mode or USB device mode (Garmin tech support showed me how to get to the "secret" diagnostics menu) so I can't use the RV660 with my "travelling pc" unless I just use a memory card to transfer routes & pois from BaseCamp to the Garmin. This PC otherwise works just fine with BaseCamp and my 765T or 200W sad

I also bought the Garmin backup camera and the additional backup camera. The add-on backup camera appears physically the same as the "regular" backup camera but does not include the special RV660 power cable (which has the camera receiver built-in). This had me wondering about image display .. would both be reverse images? My call to Garmin confirmed that any "backup camera" would have a reversed image but I want a normal image for an outside camera that I'll mount as a blind spot cam on the passenger side of my RV. Garmin says they have a dash cam that would display a normal image on the RV660, but it's not an outdoor cam. Again, sad

I'm reluctant to experiment with the new RV660 because I'm thinking the Android based Rand McNally Tablet 80 might now be a better option and I may want to return/exchange the RV660.

So.. my questions are for Garmin RV660 and/or RM Tablet 80 users.

Anyone have knowledge about cameras on the RV660 or the Tablet 80? Also, can I manually put something like an Android IP cam app on the Tablet 80?

You'd think it wouldn't be this hard to spend another $600-700 on my RV, would ya? smile

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Connection modes on tablet

I haven't tried to connect my Garmin 3597 to a tablet, so I don't know which connection mode is needed for either the Garmin or the tablet. I don't know whether this will work.

Just like the Garmin has different USB connection modes, so does the tablet. I don't know which Android system your tablet uses:

KitKat Android 4.2.2 -

The USB settings are not visible in Settings/General/Storage on my Samsung Galaxy Tab when it is not connected to a PC. MTP mode is the default.

To change the connection mode, first connect the cable to the Garmin (which is turned on), then reboot the tablet. On booting up, a USB icon will be seen on the notification bar at the top of the tablet screen. Pull down from the top with two fingers to see the notification area and touch the USB connection. You will see the option to select Mass Storage Mode or MTP Mode.

Alternately, when the USB cable is connected, I am guessing that a hidden USB setting may become visible in Settings/General/Storage. A three dots "menu" will appear at the upper right corner.

I don't know which mode is correct for the Garmin to tablet connection.

Lollipop Android 5.1.1 -

The USB setting is always visible in Settings/Storage on my Google Nexus 4 LG phone. Touch the three dots "menu" in the upper right corner and touch USB Computer Connection. You will see the option to select Media Device (MTP) or Camera (PTP).

I don't know which setting is correct for the Garmin to tablet connection, but to transfer any files from my PC to the LG phone, Camera (PTP) is needed. For example, this setting was needed for ebook file transfer.

No matter which Android system, it seems the default MTP mode is incorrect for file transfer, so I am guessing that this default setting on your tablet is preventing files from being transferred on the USB connection.

dobs108 smile

Windows 10?

I just noticed your original post with (Win 10.1)! So this is a Windows tablet, and to complicate things, Windows 10!

Remember that Garmin Express should install the Windows USB drivers needed to make the connection between the tablet and the Garmin, so if Garmin Express is not installed on the tablet, try installing it.

If Garmin Express is already installed, and there is no communication, in GE on the tablet, delete the Garmin RV660 icon and let it re-detect the Garmin.

Garmin support should be helping you with the Windows 10 USB drivers problem.

In this forum, we have limited experience with Garmin USB drivers on Windows 10.

In my opinion, the tablet cannot operate exactly the same as a PC in all respects. It just might have a setting for MTP mode or Mass Storage Mode.

dobs108 redface

Thanx.

Thanks for the Info Dobs, but my ASUS is running Win 10.1. It's a 10" tablet that has a keyboard that attaches mechanically. The full size USB 3.0 slot is on the keyboard part, which might be why the RV660 has some sort of issue .. but the fact remains that anything else I've used in the port has so far worked, including other MTP as well as regular USB connecting devices, and my 765T and 295W. GE isn't involved since the RV660 never makes a connection with the PC.

I resigned myself to just using another PC for RV660 updates, and putting my BaseCamp generated files on a removable SD card for the RV660, but unless I can resolve the Garmin backward-display exterior add-on cameras, I'll probably give up on Garmin and get the RM Tablet 80. Or hack together a genuine Android tablet for my camper. Thinking of using CoPilot and some wi-fi IP cameras for backup & side/blind spot cams.

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garmin express loads USB drivers

JD4x4 wrote:

... the fact remains that anything else I've used in the port has so far worked, including other MTP as well as regular USB connecting devices, and my 765T and 295W. GE isn't involved since the RV660 never makes a connection with the PC...

Other devices have worked because the Windows driver that was loaded on plugging in actually worked. When the RV660 was plugged in, the Windows driver didn't work. If Garmin Express is installed on the Asus laptop, it should install the Garmin USB driver.

You may not need to run Garmin Express on the Asus for any other reason except installing the USB driver.

dobs108 smile

OK, well ..

GE has been on the ASUS and used with my 765T & 295W for a few years now. Don't get me started on GE & bloated hard drive space requirements for device updates (in the middle of it now on the 765T). Also, even trying to connect with the RV660 in only USB mode fails, but works on the wife's ASUS laptop. On hers, the RV660 connected in MTP and/or USB modes even before I installed GE to update the maps. I'm getting less interested in finicky Garmin devices, and ..

.. more interested in camera operation on the RV660 vs. the RM Tablet 80, to determine the better RV choice, & if I'm sending the RV660 back.

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Bueller?

JD4x4 wrote:

So.. my questions are for Garmin RV660 and/or RM Tablet 80 users.

Anyone have knowledge about cameras on the RV660 or the Tablet 80? Also, can I manually put something like an Android IP cam app on the Tablet 80?

Anybody? ..
Bueller?

Anyone even own one of these??

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It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.

OK ..

Ok, let's try a different question ..

Anyone here using either a Garmin or Rand McNally unit with a backup camera display? How about TWO cameras displayed?

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It's about the Line- If a line can be drawn between the powers granted and the rights retained, it would seem to be the same thing, whether the latter be secured by declaring that they shall not be abridged, or that the former shall not be extended.