Europe Maps on North America Devices - Update lags by one version

 

I have a 2689 with a Lifetime North America and Europe subscription transferred from another device.

The forum here and other forums have EU maps at 2016.3 so I tried an update with no luck.

When I asked Garmin Support about the problem, the eventual reply was

"2016.20 is the current version of City Navigator® Europe NT that is available for your device. For North American devices that have Europe NT added to them, 2016.20 is the latest map version available. For Europe or Transatlantic devices, the current version of the map will be different. This is not a software issue with Garmin Express, and your device is completely up to date."

So just a heads up if you've heading over the pond.

Cheers
Bob
Ottawa
Not the one in Illinois.

Europe NT maps are now

Europe NT maps are now updated only twice a year. NTU maps get updated more often. The reason for the discrepancy is the devices that utilize the NT map are older. Current foreign models should all support unicode text and thus use the NTU map. US models don't have the unicode support, which is why you got the NT map instead of the NTU.

Sorry if I'm repeating what you've said. This is mainly clarifying what you had been told by Garmin.

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Do you just switch cards

I was thinking of doing the same thing, getting the U.K. maps for my 2797. I assume when you buy the download you load it onto a memory card. Do you just remove your card with the North American maps and replace it with the UK map card.
Do you get the latest map update if you buy from the Garmin site?

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NTU vs NT

Thanks Strephon

Much better explanation than Garmin's. Since they're Swiss, I just thought they had some policy to keep us foreigners lost and out of their hair wink

Cheers

Bob

Loading to Cards

bpaine wrote:

I was thinking of doing the same thing, getting the U.K. maps for my 2797. I assume when you buy the download you load it onto a memory card. Do you just remove your card with the North American maps and replace it with the UK map card.
Do you get the latest map update if you buy from the Garmin site?

Load to Card: Yes, I get a warning that the EU map won't fit on the device in the space available. Garmin Express then sends the map to your computer and you later load to a card. I clone the XML file to the card and then use MapInstaller to load the map to the microSD Card in an adapter stuck into the back of my Mac. MapInstaller thinks it is connected to the device when it sees the XML and the transfer is far faster than if the card was in the device.

Swap cards: Personally haven't used the map in anger yet but in testing, I just leave the EU card inserted. Both maps load. Probably would be better to deselect the NA map once you're in Europe.

Latest download: I would think so. If you have a download code, I would think that the download would be registered to whatever device you've tagged it to and recognize to give you the newest map your device can handle.

Cheers

Bob

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Both on same cards

bpaine wrote:

I was thinking of doing the same thing, getting the U.K. maps for my 2797. I assume when you buy the download you load it onto a memory card. Do you just remove your card with the North American maps and replace it with the UK map card.
Do you get the latest map update if you buy from the Garmin site?

Nothing to stop you placing both maps on the same card if you have space. I have both US and EU maps on a 16Gb card in my nuvi.

Yes, if you buy from the Garmin site you'll get the latest map but you'll also get the latest map if you buy from any legitimate 3rd party vendors.

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Thanks

I like the idea of both sets of maps on the same card, I guess that way,once the GPS locks on to the satellites in the UK area it switches automatically to the correct maps.

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Yes

Provided the map is selected on your nuvi.

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Update Lag

Yes, I've noticed that too.

I have US, EU, and Israel

I have US, EU, and Israel maps on the SD card. I need to be ready if I visit relatives (some dead, some alive) in other countries.

More than one

When you consider the North America to be 2017.10 and Europe NT (no NTU support on my old unit) at 2016.20, you are more than one revision behind.

On my 2595, I have the NA

On my 2595, I have the NA map in the main memory and the Europe map on the sd card. It worked great during my trip to Lyon last year.

Not quite true

jale wrote:

When you consider the North America to be 2017.10 and Europe NT (no NTU support on my old unit) at 2016.20, you are more than one revision behind.

Actually you're not. The latest EU NTU map is 2016.30, which is what the latest NA map should have been, but for some reason Garmin named it 2017.10 instead of 2016.30. So the EU 2016.30 was released in the same timeframe (although earlier by a few weeks) as the NA 2017.10

The difference therefore between 2017.10 and 2016.20 is only one revision.

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It's a plot

The numbering by Garmin is set up to confuse the end user!

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Thanks

Thanks

Update Lag

I have always been confused by the inconsistency of the version numbers used by Garmin.

I wish they would make them uniform and at least use the same year in the version file name as the year it was released.

Or even better, make the actual release date a part of the release file name ?

On the card or download

I am looking at the City Navigator Europe NT UK and Ireland maps and see that the download map on the Garmin site($97.99 CAD) is more expensive than the map on a micro sd card from GPS City ( Model: 010-10691-00 SKU: MSDCNEUUKIR ) $84.95
Was just wondering if you get the maps on the pre loaded SD card can you download it to Basecamp to do route planning.

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Afraid not

No ... but if you copy the files to a usb stick or card or a virtual drive BaseCamp will read the map from that.

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