Cars With Garmin Factory Installed

The only ones that i have heard of that had or have Garmin GUI software in factory navs were some Chrysler models, but do not know if they still are using the Garmin software in the current line.

I currently drive a 2005 CAMRY LE that does not have built-in GPS, so I use my trusty GARMIN riding on the dash. I would like to get a new car soon that has built-in GPS, backup camera, etc.

How do I add POI's to a non GARMIN GPS?

-jgracey

of the time you don't. The three brands that accept user POI are Garmin, Tom-Tom and Rand McNally. Some Chrysler and Honda units can accept POI, but it is very dependent on the year. The best answer is to ask the salesman if their GPS unit will accept user created POI files. If the salesman says "yes" get it in writing that the acceptance of user files on their GPS unit is a condition for accepting the car.

And many of the recent TTs don't even accept POIs.

An old post I made had a link to a Japanese manufacturer that gave instructions to upload the POIs to their site and then the car would D/L to the GPS.

Check out this site for manufacturer's map update instructions:
https://auto-oem.garmin.com/landing/

Happy New Car hunting!

I asked the salesman if I could download POIs and he said no. If you search for KML files you will see I found a way to install POIs to the 2014 Honda Accord. Don't always trust the salesman. He may not know.

Asking the salesman a question such as loading custom POI helps cut through the usual features BS a lot of them spout. It lets them know you are serious about the installed features and not truly concerned with all the flash and noise about being able to control 97 different things through this "nifty neat touch screen" that's mounted someplace that is truly not convenient with small symbols close together that are easier to manipulate with a stylus than a finger.

You always had a way to make us smile.

I recently found that new Honda models are coming with Android Auto and Car Play options but in addition to that, some of the new 2016/2017 models (i.e. 2016 Accord) are coming with an option of Garmin embedded from the factory. IT'S ABOUT TIME HONDA!! They finally appear to be ditching the outdated, clunky, limited Honda Sat Navigation and replacing it with a feature and POI rich navigation system from Garmin who I believe is the leader in USA navigation. A huge step forward.

We have a 2014 Honda Accord. Is there a way to upgrade to the Garmin Navigation?

Reading this it looks like the car has to run a long time. Maybe the time frame they are talking about is only for downloading on PC to USB drive. Not sure....

https://honda.garmin.com/honda/#getStarted

I don’t have a list of vehicles with Garmin nav systems but here is an inclusion for someone who wants to create one.

This is probably of no use to someone shopping for a new car since Suzuki stopped marketing automobiles in the U.S. in 2014. Some of their 2012 and 2013 models came equipped with an in dash Garmin Nuvi 2390 which is removable. The unit will accept POI file uploads but does not offer free lifetime map updates. Each online update costs $79.

I like this system very much but unfortunately, I don’t know of any other vehicle manufacturer that uses a Garmin removable nav system.

I will give credit to Honda for giving their customers a way to update the map on the onboard nav system. But really, the engine has to be running the whole time that the update is taking place. May be up to a hour.

I found the description of the Honda map update process kind of interesting. My guess is that they are using a modification of the cloning procedure to get the update from the computer to the device.

Do you really need to have the engine running, or just turned to accessory to keep the GPS on?

WAG here, but I'll bet it is to ensure that there is no disruption during the updating process which could damage the unit.

In some vehicles, the ACC cuts off automatically after 10 or 15 minutes. My Nissan does this and it is extremely annoying when it does.

If I shut the truck down, 15 minutes. If I turn it to ACC, it stays on till I cut it off. I guess one would have to check first.

I'm not sure that the actual map file download is happening in Step 1, where you need to have the engine running. Garmin Express, which is managing the map download doesn't come into play until Step 2 where you don't need the engine on.

Alrom45,

Did the replies answer what you were looking for? I think the list is:

HONDA

CHRYSLER

DODGE

SRT

JEEP

RAM

FIAT

You will notice that it is Honda, Fiat, and Mopars (Chrysler/Dodge/Ram/Jeep/SRT).

Also, for whatever it is worth, the Kenwood in dash GPS units are Garmin. So, if you are considering a brand new vehicle, want i-dash Garmin, but don't want a Honda or Mopar, you could get a different brand and have a installation shop install a Kenwood.

Also, if the cost is a factor, it is possible that getting an after-market in dash GPS might even be cheaper than getting it from the factory.

http://www.kenwood.com/usa/car/navigation_multimedia/

http://www.driveuconnect.com/features/navigation/

http://garmin.blogs.com/my_weblog/2015/08/garmin-expands-mul...

Jim1348

Suzuki had slightly customized Garmins in the dash of some of their models. They are not sold here anymore, however.

BMW didn't have it as part of the base car but there was an option for the 1 series (2008-2013) that mounted a Garmin to the right of the instruments on the dash. I bought the mount and put first a 760 there and now use a 885t. I moved the 885t to the left side of the instruments, however. I had to make my own mount for that. There is also a mount for at least one of the SAVs to put a Garmin on the dash. That works differently, it is a plastic piece the Garmin slides into. I'm thinking of switching to a newer Garmin that supports a backup camera. The back glass of my e88 (convertible) is very small making blind spots huge (putting the top down solves it, of course).

If you bought BMWs Portable Pro or Portable Plus you also got BMW vehicles as an option on your screen and a BMW splash screen. I managed to find a convertible but not my 128i and load it but I tried the splash screen and decided I didn't want to use that in the 885.

In step 3. It clearly states in the notes section. It could take up to an hour and the engine must be running.

My EX wife has a Honda Crosstour with the bult-in GPS. She pays around $100 per year for a CD/DVD map update. She's so good at wasting money.

My 2013 Jeep Wrangler has a Garmin based built in GPS, it can take POI's but it will erase any previously loaded POI files during the process. So if you want to update the POI files you need to reload them all, and at the same time, each time you run POI uploader it erases old ones.

As for map updates they are very expensive, not current and not yearly. The first update to my 2013 unit was available in mid 2015 and the mapset seemed to be from early 2014.

The main reason to buy the built in unit for me was the "at the readiness" of it. Unlike the standalone unit where I'd have to get it out, set it up, plug it in etc. tap one button and it's on.

My in-dash unit will not allow you to enter info while moving, I can override that in a stand alone unit.

Bottom line, the in dash units are very convenient, but not as user friendly or inexpensive (when you consider most come with free map updates) as a stand alone unit.

My son just bought a 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hardrock. It's fully loaded and the GPS says GARMIN on it. I asked if I can borrow it to drive to Alaska. Yeah, right.

There are 15 built-in/in-dash brands listed at the Garmin site.

Suzuki
Honda
VW
Chrysler
Dodge
Jeep
Ram
Fiat
Lancia
Skoda
Toyota
Paccar (in Europe?)
Seat (for big rigs)
Kenwood (don't know what manufacturer uses them)

See Garmin site:

https://auto-oem.garmin.com/landing/

You can get maps from Garmin (at least for the few I clicked on), but you will probably have to check out the owner's manual or the manufactures website to check about custom POIs. Most will probably require a memory stick to upload to the GPS.

Thank you for posting that. I did not know about the entry while in motion issue.

The economics have been what have steered me away from them, too. I wonder if an in-dash unit purchased later is less expensive than buying it factory installed?

Also, has anybody noticed that some of the in-dash units seem to be more feature rich than stand alone Garmin GPS units? They seem to have more entertainment related features.

My stand-alone Nuvi 760 does the same thing, you have to load the entire set of POIs each time you update them.

My in dash Garmin is called a 430N part of a Chrysler UConnect package. I've seen some here and there on Jeep forums for sale for less than the listed price on my Jeep when it was new. As for features, it may have some the older GPS's don't have but I just bought a Garmin Nuvi 2689 (mainly for my work truck) that is eons ahead of the 430N.

I have/had several garmins over the years, I always reload everything each time anyway so I can customize warning distances and whatnot without getting into editing the file itself, the Jeeps Garmin was the first that warned me it would erase all existing POI's in order to load new ones as I was about to load them.

Isn't that how POI Loader works? I thought it replaced/erased all your current POI's and replaces them with the ones you state to load. I did not think that it just updated.

All cars should have back up cameras. On GPS, they will soon most all hopefully have Garmin GPS installed or where you can go directly from your phone

Honestly I don't know, when I use POI loader it's asks if I want to load NEW POI's or erase all existing ones. Based on that I assume when adding it just adds new ones and leaves old ones there.

(going from memory, haven't used it for a month or two)

If you keep the same output file name, it completely replaces the previous file. It doesn't just add the new items unless you use a new output file name.

Say I have files X, Y, Z, on the GPS and I was to add file A, B, C, via POI loader, adding ONLY A, B, C.

My assumption has been that X, Y, Z, wouldn't be touched unless I was adding files with the same name, that by loading new files A, B, C, I would end up with A, B, C, X, Y, Z on the GPS.

As I said previously, I have always erased everything first via POI loader anyway, restarted POI and then loaded/reloaded everything again because I like to tweak warning distances via a custom load.

When I first loaded newer files to my Jeep and got the warning that all old files would be lost in the process (assuming regardless of file name), which I never saw when loading to the Nuvi's or Zumo's, I thought that loading the Nuvi's/Zumo's was different.

(This is almost as confusing as the Large JVC file threads)

You are correct ... the replaced output file will contain all the source files that are in the folder you pointed POI Loader to. So as long as you don't remove the source files they will continue to be included.

That's what I've been saying all along, just not clearly enough apparently, the Jeep does not do that, the 430N in the Jeep erases anything in the POI folder (Extras) while it loads new files, so you have to reload every file you want every time.

Moose135 said the way the Jeep does it was nothing new, I never really thought about it too much prior.

b4 you commit to a model - especially a Toy, do some research. As it turned out - after I bought my 2014 Rav4 - I found out that the list of 128 vehicles in order of reviews has Chrysler on top -Garmin- and Toy on the bottom - DEAD last. No wonder I still have my 1490 Gamin in the Rav.

I am now looking for a vehicle. I haven't gone shopping yet, but certainly some of the vehicles that have Garmin In Dash Navigation would be of interest to me. I want something that can hold at least four adult comfortably and tow a trailer with two ATVs on it. It will be interesting to see how the various manufacturers bundle in dash navigation. This is not a deal breaker for me, however. If it has it and it doesn't increase the price by a huge margin, I would consider it.

https://auto-oem.garmin.com/landing/

I think built-in GPS units are more expensive, and map updates are more expensive.

You forgot to mention the mandatory fireplace, and that it can traverse the entire continent numerous times consuming only 15 cc's of fuel while cooking your next meal to be ready whenever and where ever you stop?

Gezz!!

I just updated the maps in my 2014 Chrysler 300 last week. It takes about an hour and YES, you must leave the car running the entire time.

Many....Many more times expensive.

I just did my first map update on our new 2018 Honda Odyssey. I used a 16GB USB 3.0 flash drive, and the time to download the maps to the drive was 30 min, while the time to upload the maps to the GPS was 25 min, with the engine running.

The timings are about 1/3 what I would have expected with a USB 2.0 flash drive. It tells me that the Odyssey supports USB 3.0, and this save me a bunch of time.

at the android level of the OS? the one in my 2017 is 4.4 and crippled..

I have not, and I wouldn't know how to look, as I've no experience with Android. Any suggestions as to how I might check that will be welcome.

I'll take a peek tomorrow and see if I can't give you instructions... it's not hard, I just can't recall now...

Something's the first to go but I can't recall what it is..

I have a 2013 Honda Accord and I believe the Nav system is made by Alpine.

What a piece of garbage it is.....

I wish I had a Factory Built-in Garmin instead.

My VW Passat has the Nav unit built in and it is supposed to be Garmin. For what they want for a map update I could buy a brand new Garmin with LMT.

I still use either my 855 or my 2797 since either is far easier to manipulate as well as both have Lifetime Maps and traffic.