City Navigator 2016.20 is out

Wow, that's interesting news on the computer update offer. I wonder if others have seen it. I always pre-check the "device and computer" so I haven't seen this offer.

Regarding the corrupt vehicle, I've also experienced the loss of a custom vehicle (grey Subaru Forester) after an update and had to reinstall it. It is interesting that in our cases, it's been a custom vehicle loss rather than Garmin-supplied vehicle.

[Edit] And this post created page 3!

Usually when I update maps, I also select Map Options. You can change maps, reinstall maps, and install map to computer.

with GE and it went fast and smooth

when I up dated my 1450lm the jvc file was D3153190A.jvc does any body know what the file for the full size jvc file is ?
is it possibly D3060190A.jcv ?

Yes. That is the full screen full coverage JCV for 2016.20. See this post: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/45264?page=0#comment-410016

So something interesting happened...HERE's mobile app was updated and now reflects map data that *does* include my user edits but it is the early ones only (the "first round" so to speak). This falls into your theory of 3-6 months behind. So this means there are at least 4 different versions of HERE map data:
1) The Map Creator data. This is the most recent, but has not been approved as of yet.For the record, anyone can view the data even if they are not registered by going to mapcreator.here.com
2) HERE.com's map data. This is the latest "published" (approved) data available, but includes data yet to be reviewed. (currently includes user made data)
3) HERE's mobile app. This is a few months behind, but still has more recent data than. (currently includes user made data)
4) Map data supplied to vendors like Garmin and Bing. This map data is what we use on our GPSr but it is the least current. (currently does *not* have user made data).

So with this in mind, it isn't unreasonable to think that HERE's mobile app data may be a preview of the next data sent to Garmin. But who knows?

No problems at all on my 1490T & 2599LMT....installation was trouble free and relatively fast on both.

just updated my 1490 & 765
I knew there had to be one about now.
thx

and directions to the file Alandb !

Guess I wil have to get it this week . seems like I just upgraded a couple weeks ago.. time goes by to damn fast.

24 hours of testing the 2016.2 in Los Angeles during long trips and traffic .. So far so good!

Tested on NuviCam GPS

The first try with Garmin Express got error after about 60% . Waited until the next day and all went well. Noticed the download seem to be faster this time.

downloaded and updated, and it even has some new roads in our area -- nice not to be driving over blank areas of the screen!

Only took about 50 minutes.

The speed limits on a couple highways in Orlando changed 4-5 months ago and they still are not on this new update. Besides that, update went smoothly on my 2699lmthd.

Under an hour this time

No problems updating my 1390T and 2495T. Took about an hour each.

Is this really the actual genuine North America Map Update usually so highly anticipated? I'm really confused because there isn't 15 pages of "Is it here yet?" entries... and there's only this one thread about it.

Obi Wan, you don't need to say "This is not the map you're looking for" because this is the map you're looking for!

williston, I thought exactly the same thing!

But I tried it, the update went fast and looks great.

Can't believe I forgot to do this again this weekend. Getting old...

Gotta love/hate Garmin. I had the same C: drive "bloat" situation as Canuk had but with a twist.

Using GE to install the new map to my 765T, 295, and Basecamp. I have a ASUS T100 laptop/tablet running Win 10 and it has a fixed internal storage card plus a removable SD card. Once you're out of C: space on a tablet, you're in program/data sacrifice mode.

Updating the 765T and Basecamp, took an hour or so but then failed without an explanation. Tried just the 765 again but failed with no explanation. Then tried the 765 with a new 4gb card, failed. Tried the 765 with a 8gb card, failed. Looked at the PC and had 2gb of space left (had 8gb before I started the update/download).

Started to compress my C: drive to gain more space .. then went poking around to see where I could also delete files when I noticed ...

On download/install, GE puts the install files in a normally hidden folder C:ProgramData/Garmin/CoreService/Downloads/Map. In that folder I had two folders that were 6.5gb EACH. One was the 2016.2 update but the other was for my last install of 2015.4, which I had installed to my removable D: SDcard for use with BaseCamp. So I immediately moved the entire 2015.4 folder to my SDcard and gained an extra 6.5 gb on my C: drive.

The install went flawlessly on my 765, 295, and (almost, see below) BaseCamp. So, an install needs disk space for the final installed map size PLUS about 7gb for storing the 'raw' build files .. AND the raw files DO NOT get deleted !!

For some reason (BC update?) GE would not let me install 2016 to my D drive like last time, only to C:/ProgramData/Garmin/Maps. So I let it install there. However, I had a shortcut to the 2015 map folder on my previous map install in my C:/ProgramData/Garmin/Maps folder so after I let GE install the 2016 map there I moved it to my D drive and created a shortcut to it in C:/ProgramData/Garmin/Maps. Works flawlessly.

Hope all of this explains some install issues and/or otherwise helps someone out. I had more than a few unkind words for Garmin last night.

And Oh Yeah, the 765T map installed without need for it's extra SD card. #!@%!!

The new map is great. But I can't wait for the next one!

Good way to get strangled!

Updating now!

Good to know. Will give it a go this weekend.

Should be ready for 2016.30 any day!

Not even loaded to servers yet so unlikely before end January ...

This 2016.20 map is the one that was made available in mid-October of this year, and is not the newer one due maybe in a month or so. If you updated a GPS map on or after October 14, you already have the latest City Navigator North America map offered at the current time and need to wait until the "2016.30 is out" thread starts before planning to update your device.

I had to re read the post before yours a couple of times before I could tell what was going on. You cleared it up nicely. Thanks

I was wondering why Garmin doesn't offer daily updates like Tom-Tom does? I had an older TomTom model and I used to update it weekly, but I didn't see much of a difference on the quality of the maps. Most of the POI's weren't fixed and I don't live in a major city to begin with.

Thanks for the clarification

be the year Garmin moves to less frequent map updates.

Remember, quantity vs. quality !

Happy New Year to you all !

Finally updated the Nuvi 50.

There were 3 or 4 older versions I had available but just clicked on 2016.20 map.

Looked like there as another map version under the 2016.20, but I didn't scrutinize what it was. There seemed to be no numbers in the name.

Had to reload Garmin Express and then took about an hour and a half or so.

I hope Garmin fix some POIs. I was on a highway and tried to find a gas station on the route. The "Up Ahead" POI got me into an airport!

Thanks for the input.

I'm beginning to think that the announcement for a map update should include the date in the new thread's Subject; e.g.:

City Navigator 2016.20 Came Out November 14, 2015

That may lessen the folks thinking a new map is out two and a half months later.

And how was that wrong? I can understand why it might not have been what you would have preferred, but was there not a gas station there?

Now, if only the person who starts the thread remembers your advice

The map at the bottom of the list I had for download yesterday was:

nüMaps Lifetime™ North America

Above that was the 2016.20 which I installed. Does anyone have any idea what the 'no numbers' map is?

Thank you!

Although you don't say where you saw these map items, anything listed other than 2016.20 is either a mistake or something you don't need.

Updated quickly.

Been working fine so far

Let's see how this works

The 2016.20 update was the fastest to install, but didn't appear to change any of the map errors/ stale POI from previous maps.

Sounds good to me.

I cannot believe I missed this. I just upgraded to NA 2016.20 last night. I have been so busy with work and have been sick over the holidays that I never bothered to check for an update. At 2.32GB, that is image file is one hefty map update for my 765T. Probably nothing new in my area as things have been rather quiet construction wise. There are some speed limits that need adjustment but that is about it.

Good News!

have to still update my GPS, but have not had the time to bring it in the house and set it up.

One odd thing I also noticed was my GTM-20 received a GCD updated to version 4.50 when I ran Garmin Updater after updating the map. Not sure what is up with that. I have always updated the firmware and when I saw the update, I noted it was about three years old. I think something went awry at Garmin, the Garmin Updater software got confused and pushed the update again to me. I have assumed the 765T is long out of support for updates. Still works fine though there is the occasional crash and reboot. Nothing I have not experienced with my other Garmin devices.