South Dakota bans photo enforcement

 

"Protection" from Photo Enforcement

Interesting that the thenewspaper.com article claims that the South Dakota law "protects" residents from photo tickets issued to South Dakota residents by other states. That implies that a South Dakota resident could ignore a traffic citation issued in any jurisdiction, like Iowa, Minnesota or any province in Canada.

Of course, that resident better not return to that jurisdiction any time soon.

Ticket won't be issued

DanielT wrote:

Interesting that the thenewspaper.com article claims that the South Dakota law "protects" residents from photo tickets issued to South Dakota residents by other states. That implies that a South Dakota resident could ignore a traffic citation issued in any jurisdiction, like Iowa, Minnesota or any province in Canada.

Of course, that resident better not return to that jurisdiction any time soon.

The law forbids sharing data about the license plate, so the other states should not be able to issue the ticket since they won't know who to send it to, at least that is the theory.

So what's to stop

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The new law will do so by refusing to turn this information over to NLETS, the system used by photo ticketing companies, for the purposes of processing a red light camera or speed camera ticket.

So what's to stop other states from just running a check for something else to get an address?

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Your comment.....

is very interesting. I wonder how that other jurisdiction will enforce the ticket against an out-of-state resident.

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Don't Ignore a Ticket

Even though South Dakota is making their residence immune to traffic photos, someone who does not pay a fine can be in for a rude awakening during a routine traffic stopbif theybhave an outstanding warrant for a traffic violation. There are many ways to get license information, so other states do not have to depend on SouthbDakorlta for data. Also, if South Dakota refuses to cooperate in sharing data with other states, then the other states can refuse to give South Dakota information. It is unreasonable to think that a state can set laws outside its borders. If that is the case, then any resident of Colorado can smoke recreational marijuana anywhere in the US.

Very interesting

Very interesting. I am very curious to see how this plays out. And I wish more states passed laws for this sort of thing.

it is a legal proceeding

panama wrote:

Even though South Dakota is making their residence immune to traffic photos, someone who does not pay a fine can be in for a rude awakening during a routine traffic stopbif theybhave an outstanding warrant for a traffic violation. There are many ways to get license information, so other states do not have to depend on SouthbDakorlta for data. Also, if South Dakota refuses to cooperate in sharing data with other states, then the other states can refuse to give South Dakota information. It is unreasonable to think that a state can set laws outside its borders. If that is the case, then any resident of Colorado can smoke recreational marijuana anywhere in the US.

SD residents need to remember being issued a ticket is a legal proceeding and ignoring the ticket is cause for a warrant. Careful reading of the legislation shows it is to prevent the collection companies from going after SD residents for non payment. It doesn't stop Iowa from issuing tickets to SD residents and pursuing resolution through the courts. The legislation states they will not accept a license information request from a camera company over the NLETS but it doesn't imply that SD is withdrawing from NLETS or that requests from other agencies would not be honored.

From my knowledge it appears if a SD resident ignores a ticket and a warrant is issued, the registered owner of the vehicle is subject to arrest for non-payment. This is not a blanket opportunity for SD residents to ignore the cameras. It could wind up that some drivers will get a rude awakening at license renewal time if SD allows the re-registration to be blocked because of outstanding judgments.

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NYC

How I wish they would do that here in NYC but with more than 680 cameras, I doubt it. Also, in that article, how is it possible to administer points for a RLC in Arizona or California? Don't they need to know who was driving to do that?

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Preroll wrote:

How I wish they would do that here in NYC but with more than 680 cameras, I doubt it. Also, in that article, how is it possible to administer points for a RLC in Arizona or California? Don't they need to know who was driving to do that?

The photos show the driver.

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PA

Box Car wrote:
Preroll wrote:

How I wish they would do that here in NYC but with more than 680 cameras, I doubt it. Also, in that article, how is it possible to administer points for a RLC in Arizona or California? Don't they need to know who was driving to do that?

The photos show the driver.

In PA it is illegal to photograph the front of the car at a RLC controlled intersection.

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well

soberbyker wrote:
Box Car wrote:
Preroll wrote:

How I wish they would do that here in NYC but with more than 680 cameras, I doubt it. Also, in that article, how is it possible to administer points for a RLC in Arizona or California? Don't they need to know who was driving to do that?

The photos show the driver.

In PA it is illegal to photograph the front of the car at a RLC controlled intersection.

PA isn't CA or AZ is it.

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geez

Box Car wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
Box Car wrote:
Preroll wrote:

How I wish they would do that here in NYC but with more than 680 cameras, I doubt it. Also, in that article, how is it possible to administer points for a RLC in Arizona or California? Don't they need to know who was driving to do that?

The photos show the driver.

In PA it is illegal to photograph the front of the car at a RLC controlled intersection.

PA isn't CA or AZ is it.

Nope, just offering that wouldn't float everywhere.

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And I...

Preroll wrote:

How I wish they would do that here in NYC but with more than 680 cameras, I doubt it. Also, in that article, how is it possible to administer points for a RLC in Arizona or California? Don't they need to know who was driving to do that?

And I wish they would do this at the national level and solve this evil for good!!!

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me too

jimcaulfield wrote:
Preroll wrote:

How I wish they would do that here in NYC but with more than 680 cameras, I doubt it. Also, in that article, how is it possible to administer points for a RLC in Arizona or California? Don't they need to know who was driving to do that?

And I wish they would do this at the national level and solve this evil for good!!!

--From coast to shinning coast!!

I'm completely on board with this!

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