nuvi 34xx, 35xx, 24x5, 25x5 update v8.20

I agree. Won't go near garmin express!

I didn't realize (or missed) that you were using a digital receiver. I'm running the analog job that came with the unit. (I'll verify that it's a GTM25)

Same crap, update did nothing for Traffic, still searches and searches. 3790 doesn't. Thing i still don't get is the green traffic icon. On the 3790 its grey when there's no signal. Kind of makes sense. In the rural areas for instance it doesn't work. There are other places also. Not every one will be able to use it. The 3790 is very reliable that way. Grey, green yellow and red. You have no way of knowing if the 3590 is actually working cause the dumb icon is always green and it seems to always be either searching or updating.
One doesn't know that either unless you tap the icon.
Not doing that while driving. Its a headache. I have a cure.............out the window at 60.

It's nice to hear I'm not the only one that crabs about the green traffic icon bug. When it first happened I actually thought it would be a quick fix, Garmin would figure out what had changed, and put it back. Then to hear later that it still works fine/as intended on the 3790 was very frustrating.

I'm losing faith that this will ever be fixed. The 2595 is getting a little long in the tooth now for firmware releases.

How I missed this one??? I'll try it tonight.

Glad I could help

I feel bad telling you, but they do seem to have fixed the problem with traffic on 2595 that you are still seeing on your 3590. Mine was the same way for a few firmware updates until this one. (searching constantly for a good channel/signal) Buffling why they can cure it one one model and not one that's nearly identical.

I think I've narrowed the "Searching" issue down to the receiver being very reluctant to lock onto an analog signal in the absence of a digital signal and when a digital signal is lost. I really cannot test how long it would take to lock onto an analog signal when digital is lost because I am moving and can't stop, sit and wait for an analog lock.

One way I believe this COULD be done is to force the unit to use an analog provider...

I've installed the update and luckily all went well.

Have you tried clearing the traffic table so it has to start from scratch? (Stored channel list) Maybe then, it will build a database of only the strongest channels. I know a hard re-set will clear it, but there is also an option to do this from the developer menus. (Unless Garmin has changed it) I know on my unit, the table/list has twice as many channels as it used to. (Before the FW release a while ago that listed a traffic fix as part of the release.) I used to see 8-10 channels stored in there at the most. (Both Navteq and Total Traffic) Now I commonly see 20-25 channels stored. I sometimes wonder if it is no longer clearing the weak channels automatically like it used to do.

Yup. I've done it quite a few times with pretty much no change that I could tell. I've got a ton of providers in the table (at least 25-30, both analog and digital) but the unit seems to ignore the analog providers in favor of digital...this is where it just sits, "Searching" endlessly until a digital station is again found.

Are you under analog providers only (no digital receiver)? This is going to be my next test...force an analog provider (like Clear Channel) and see if the signal remains constant.

Re: Force Analog...... I know how you can do that!
Hard re-set it and bring it back up as Germany! European countries have an option to select the traffic provider manually. (In addition to the auto-select option) I have mine set up like this because I like the Euro speed limit sign. I was going to suggest this in the last reply then remembered you have a digital traffic receiver. I'm analog-only but I have a dual subscription. Good luck!

PS:: I apologize for asking you over and over if you cleared the traffic table/did a hard re-set.

Guess it might be time to change my name and pic to "Uncle Leo" (Seinfeld): "I'm old! I was confused!" (Uncle Leo to store security guards when he got busted shop lifting some books)

The nuvi 34xx has the built-in ability to force a traffic provider/subscription under the traffic settings. For the longest time, one of the tricks to be able to do such was to hard-reset the unit, then set the locale to GB or EU.

No problem with asking anything multiple times...I'm sure I've done the same as well.

If this works then it's still not acceptable, You still need to go through some hoops, Copy gpx file, hard reset, change to either GB, or Germany or whatever europe country. Change language back to english if you did europe, change to mpt settings. Fire up mapsource, copy gpx file back. Did I miss something? All this to fix a garmin screw-up. Small potatoes for us, but look how long this discussion has bin going on. This is by no means the first post in "traffic not working". How many people out there driving around with a unreliable traffic icon and they don't know it. I'm now wondering if Costco Up here in Canada didn't have it figured out all along. They sell a 3580lmt, not a 3590LMT. The only difference is the traffic receiver. It comes with the GTM™ 36 not the GTM 60™ HD Digital Traffic Receiver.

Maybe I wasn't very clear on my description so I'll try again.

In the past on previous units like the 765 & 3790, to force or change the traffic provider that the unit uses, yes, you had to go through hoops to hard-reset the unit, then reset the locale to GB or EU (or similar).

Newer models like (for instance) my 3490 now have the option to force the traffic provider in a menu setting (Settings>Traffic>Current Provider) so it's no pain-in-the-butt at all.

However, the ability to enable/disable auto-zoom still requires the unit to be hard-reset and the locale changed (again, to EU or GB or AU) to enable the feature. Why on earth Garmin thinks that those of us in the US don't want (or deserve) the ability to toggle auto-zoom on/off is beyond me...

Good luck with forcing the traffic provider on the 3590. You get auto-mode, that's it. I also noticed doing the europe trick doesn't work either.

I just bought a 3597 because of the way traffic reporting doesn't work properly on the 3590.

Now is the time for Garmin to come up with an update to fix the problem. It happened when I bought the 3590 to replace a 1490 that kept randomly rebooting or just locking up. Shortly after buying the 3590 Garmin fixed the problem with the 1490.

As it turned out, on long trips I had both units going because I generally liked the way the 3590 worked better than the 1490. However, traffic reporting on the 3590 was useless, so I used the 1490 for that function.

Here is to hoping that the 3597 will do a better job.

It works fine on my 3490. I get the "auto" option as well as specific selections for each of the subscriptions on my unit. Navteq, Navteq HD & Clear Channel (analog) RDS. Selecting the provider will use that provider from that point on.

Do you have multiple subscriptions/providers on your 3590/GTM unit?

I do have multiple. Navteq and navteq hd neither is selectable. One can select them but all you see is a garmin blurb and a link to their website. If this thing didn't cost me over $300 I probably would have gone to the beach done some practice stone skipping and then tried the 3590 out to see how well it would do.

t looks like your choices Speed are Navteq or Navteq. Dorkus states in order for that option to appear, you need a Clear Channel subscription in addition to your Navteq.

OH..so i need to buy something extra...hmmmmm
Hope not cause it ain't happening.

I have a 3490 and it appears this is the last firmware update I have seen in awhile so I'm wondering if this is it.

Yes, 8.20 is the latest (but most likely not the last) update for your 3490, arriving in March of 2014:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=5303

When a newer version arrives, you'll probably hear about it here first! Firmware updates for Garmin devices are sometimes even offered for devices officially listed as "discontinued."

Ok thanks. I was thinking that since it's been almost 10 months since the last release that this would be the final one in an effort to push people to start buying their newer products. I will be going to CES in Las Vegas next week so I will stop by the Garmin booth in hopes of seeing another line for the Prestige Series. I know they came out with another bunch of Advanced Series but nothing for Prestige so maybe they have something planned for a 2015 release. We'll see.

Thanks.

Let us know what you find at CES. If you see any new On The Road Garmin GPS units, try to check to see if they have powered cradles or if the power cord needs to directly connect to the GPS.

Will do...

Indeed. I'm looking forward to any new info you can provide since I cannot attend CES this year.

I picked up this link over on the GPS Review forums: http://garmin.blogs.com/my_weblog/2015/01/ces-announcement-2.... Nothing there that is of much interest to me.

No replacement for the 3597... How sad

Thanks for the update. I am going to update my 3597 now and see if it makes any difference.

Sorry, this update is not for Nuvi 3597.

My 2460 seems unaffected.

I will be there tomorrow also and Garmin is always my first stop

Webupdater seems the way to go for me...

Quoting from the guy I know at the Garmin booth...

Due to cost cutting measures, they only have powered cradles for the 7" model. They said it was cheaper to produce a standard mount w/o power and speakers built in. Also, they said the 7" model is selling poorly. Only truckers may want that model but most people do not. You'll probably see that go away soon.

As a footnote, I asked what happened to the prestige series as there was no update for 2015. Apparently the physical construction for the prior prestige series used various metals, plastics, etc that are not used on the cheaper units and the third party supplier that they had a contract with to supply the materials had some sort of dispute with Garmin and they are no longer supplying Garmin with the materials needed to call a series a prestige unit. Go figure that one out but there ya go.