City Navigator 2013.40 North America fails very first test

Many highways and roads have different names. Here in Kelowna, Harvey Ave. is also Highway 97. Up in northern BC, Highway 97 is known as the John Hart Highway. Or, Highway 97 north of Dawson Creek, BC becomes the Alaskan Highway.

There are many instances of this cross naming.

That's true in some instances, but not in THIS instance. This instance is a simple error where a highway exit was given the name of the next exit down the road. My wife and I will be bummin' around today and I'm curious to see if there a other similar errors.
What's bad is that if someone who's unfamiliar with the area tries to find Gander Mtn., for example, the incorrect name could be very confusing. The GPS navigation is saying to get off here at the Heisley Rd exit but the display and the TTS are calling it the OH 44 exit.
BTW, when I got off on Heisley, as I approached the top of the ramp, the GPS(r) correctly told me to "turn right on HEISLEY (which was correct," and after that everything else went back to normal.

Phil

@plunder,
I have the new maps. I put myself in simulation mode and did a Where To? > Cities > Spell > Mentor and selected OH. I then scrolled the map until I found the Heisley Road exit.

What I am noticing is the the map labels E Heisley Rd north of Hwy 2 as being "44" just as it labels the next exit hwy to the southeast as being "44" (and this "44" looks like it is a divided hwy.

I see the same thing in GoogleMaps.

It appears that "44" truly is on both sides of Highway 2.

Let us know what you think.

Wisconsin has several named roads that are actually US highways.

I used to think it "interesting" when I'd drive from Eureka, CA to Ukiah, CA. I'd be on Main Street (Highway 101) in Eureka and the GPS would tell me to "continue xxx miles on Main Street". Of course, as soon as I exited Eureka it was no longer called that but was simply Highway 101 but "Jack" would tell me to continue over 100 miles on "Main Street". This kind of stuff happens all the time and I don't worry about it at all. Sometimes I'm told to go on "highway so-and-so" when I had no idea it was a highway as well as a named road. No biggie.

Zooming in on Google Maps in the area, the Lakeland Freeway shows it is also known as both Hwy 2 and Hwy 44 for the segment between the two relevant exits.

Looks like the new map may be more informative that previous versions.

I ran the simulation. The junction view shows the sign

That makes the announcement correct.

OH-44S is the next exit

What everyone says is correct - if you turn left (north) off the ramp, you're on OH 44N. If you turn right off the ramp, you're on Heisley Rd. Now I'm having my doubts about my original post. I'd swear that the exit on prior releases was called and displayed "Heisley." I don't know why, but when I tested the new release, OH 44 just sounded wrong. If anyone can test that exit on the .30 release, I'd like to know the result. Thanks to everyone who took the time to investigate.

Phil

I can't test 2013.30, but I tested 2011.40
That version does not have JCV, but both versions that I have are identical for TTS.

I know the feeling. Near my office there is an intersection where if you turn left it is known as Willis Street but if turning right it is Hwy 516. Officially the whole road is Hwy 516. My Garmins treat this intersection differently depending on which direction you approach from, one way it says I am approaching Willis and the other way I am approaching 516. Could be confusing if I didn't already know where I was going.

Have had no problems with new maps yet, Some newer roads showing up now.

In following this thread, I have been wondering what the state signage from both directions says. Be interesting to know if Navteq is following signage.

The JCV shows the same signage approaching from both directions.

At the end of ramp, 44 North is never mentioned again in TTS, regardless if navigating south or north on Heisley Road.
Again, the TTS matches the signs for the exit.

The next exit to the east on highway 2 does show 44 South (Chardon)

Not an attempt to hijack the thread, but my experience with Garmin devices suggests that installing the map to the SD card and the large JCV file to the device is backwards. Wouldn't it be better to put the maps on the device, and the JCV on the SD card?

Just askin'.

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it's the dog's fault

I used Garmin Map Updater and that's just the way it installed 2013.40 (and also the way it installed 2013.30 three months ago). There is a JCV folder on the SD card but it's empty - the Updater installs the small JCV file in the JCV folder on the unit. After the Updater finished, I copied the large JCV file, that I had downloaded earlier, to the same folder in the unit where the smaller one had been installed (after renaming the smaller file, of course).
It all works and I try not to overthink things that I'm liable to break if I fool with it.

Phil

Not possible on a number of Nuvi models as there is no longer room on the device to hold the full coverage maps.

On my Nuvi 1450, I put the large JCV file in the JCV folder in the hidden .system folder because that's where the Updater installed the small JCV file. Even with the large JCV file in the unit itself, I still have 741MB of unused space available (1.04GB are used).
On the 8GB SD card, which is where the map is, I have 1.83GB used and 5.43GB unused space. And BTW, I didn't tell the Updater program where to put things, it just did its own thing.
One final comment: I wish that Garmin would have an option at installation time of letting the user decide whether to install the large or small JCV file instead of making us jerk around by downloading the large file separately and then copying it to the unit. Just my opinion.

Phil

So many errors are on repeated on the different vendor maps. It seems that if a location of a business is off on Google, it is off on NavTeq as well.

Is someone supplying bad information/locations? Or, are the map makers copying each other's bad info?

I think most mapmakers use the same assumptions when translating street addresses to coordinates.

Sometimes a municipality will not follow the usual convention for numbering of houses or which side of street odd/even numbers are located.

Other times the lot sizes are sized differently. Mapmakers normally assume 50 foot lot widths.

Aren't there only two map vendors (US)? NavTeq and Tom Tom (teleatlas)

These are the vendors which use Navteq
http://navteq.com/company_our_customers.htm

True, there are only two major vendors of digitized map data, but Google and Apple run their own mapping operations so they don't rely on Nokia or TeleAtlas for the base data. From my understanding, a lotof the POI location data (addresses) is drawn from business license data which doesn't always list the storefront, but the owner's mailing location.

Hi..thank you all for testing the new updates and posting your findings, very helpful.

In Fl we have a similar situation with a route... Tamiami Trail & Rte 41. Depending on where you get on the road the name is one of these 2. Being a newbie to the area it's not a big deal...

INFO:
Tamiami Trail
U.S. Route 41 (State Road 90)
Formerly U.S. Route 94

Example...
When I lived in NC.. On rte 501 we had similar naming conventions make a left Jones Rd, Make a right Main st.

Take care... Be safe.