Trip planner and missed POI's

On many units that supporting routes you can edit the active route to reorder points and delete ones you may have missed.

Tho other point to make is you don't need to enter all the points into a route. Having a list your copilot can reference also make sense. That way those stops become optional and should help reduce the route problems.

Thanks Box Car,

Reordering points at 70 mph doesn't seem to be any easier than starting and stopping the route and selecting the next POI. Plus I am not sure a 2460 can do that while enroute.

Your second suggestion doesn't work well for me. I put POI's in for two reasons. 1. To force the route and 2. to ensure I know where I have my preplanned stops. If I don't put them in the trip planner then it takes me where it wants and leaves me not knowing where my planned stop is.

The 765 just worked better in this regard. I don't see where the logic is in having a POI become dominate in the routing over the next poi or final destination. A feature that takes you back to a missed poi is nice but it really needs to also give up after a time or have an easy method to ignor after passing it.

FIrst of all, there must be a setting on your 2460 that allows you to enter data while moving while on 12v power.
My 1490 seems to be OK when I pass near a via. Don't know about missing a via that is down a side road.
Because long routes are a problem, I use a work around. I enter all my via points in favorites, listing them alphabetically. Then I GOTO> the first one on the list. Any time I decide to skip one, I click STOP. Then GOTO the next.
Just a thought.

Spokybob,

Well I would think there would be a way to enter or delete misssed POIs from the main screen while driving but if there is I don't know how.

A question: are all units with trip planner (rather than the older model using routing) having the same problem or is it my unit? It just doesn't make any sense to me that a POI overtakes routing and never lets go of it unless you rearrange them during driving.

Entering via POIs using GoTo one at a time seems to be counter to the whole idea of trip planner. Again doing that 70 MPH seems a little dangerous. If I had the POIs showing as closest rather than alphabetical it might be more efficent though than what I'm doing.
Thanks for the idea.

From the limited information you provided on how you plan a trip, I wonder if breaking your planned route into smaller segments may be a way to work around the problem.

You state you use both planned stops and shaping points in laying out your route. What if you layed out routes between your scheduled or planned stops? That would limit the number of points in the route and perhaps address the problem where the system apparently fails to remove a point after you pass it.

I had a similar problem to what you describe a couple years ago wth my 885. After adding several locations as via points the unit suddenly lost track of where it was and tried to reroute me to a point we had passed a couple hours earlier. My solution was to limit the nuber of points to just that day's planned travel. Never had the problem reoccur.

Boxcar,
In the newer models using trip planner there is no such thing as routing or "shaping points". Everything is a POI.

So as an example I went from Minden Nev to San Francisco. I had to put in a poi near Reno to force the route to use I-80. I drove over the POI and the unit didn't catch it. So from then on it tried to take me back to Reno. So one POI is used to shape the route and the trip is screwed up because it didn't recognize I drove over it. I let it go on its own, backrouting at every chance it could until I was was way pass Truckee, CA. I finally had my wife reset the route.

This flaw (missing a set routing POI) hit hard on a route I was not familiar with and the backrouting almost caused me to exit my route onto a narrow road while pulling a 32 foot travel trailer.

As I said before I did not have this problem with my 765. It would try to backroute for a short distance and then automatically correct up to rout to the next POI. In addition it never missed routing spots.

As you pointed out there are solutions that mitigate the usefulness of Trip Planner. But then why have it if it doesn't work. It seems to me that a Trip Planner shouold allow you to plan a trip. NO?

Apparently there is no way to get the new unit to by pass a POI and go to the next POI without resetting the trip.

I can break up the trip into smaller units but again as soon as I miss a poi the unit has to be rest while driving. I can also use a map or just set a start and finish and forget about preplanning a trip.

This latest trip problem is going from Minden NV to Chula Vista, CA. It has three RV parks and 3 piss stops as POIs. The piss stops are on off ramps where I know I can pull off the Interstate and park on or near an off ramp. The routing worked once when I stopped at an RV park. The other 5 POI's resulted in back routing that never corrected itself.

I may be wrong but it seems to me that you want to have a POI file with locations at which you "might" stop (but often you do not) and it is irritating to listen to the unit trying to route you back.

Since you are planning a "trip", why not consider making each potential stopping point a member of a TourGuide file?

Whenever you got close (a radius of 1 mile, say) to a possible stopping point, you would get an alert with the name of the point in an oval. Then, you could decide whether to stop or not and when you went outside the mile radius, the oval would go away.