New TomTom allows you to adjust built in map information.

 

Concord, Mass. — TomTom introduced today a new midline personal navigation device (PND) that allows users to update maps as they go and share the changes with other users.

The new TomTom GO 720 is a slim-line PND with a 4.3-inch touchscreen and is the first TomTom to offer optional RDS real-time traffic.

Its salient feature is a button that lets users bookmark errors in their map software that they might note while navigating. When the user stops driving, the GO 720 prompts him through a menu to make map changes such as updating a street name, or noting a reversed one-way street. He may then connect the GO 720 to a PC to share the updates with other users through TomTom HOME software, which currently has one million users. TomTom says the software has built-in levels of security so that users can decide which map updates are the most reliable.

TomTom claims map upgrades to navigation systems in new cars can cost $300 to $400.

Other features of the GO 720 include Bluetooth for hands-free dialing and a built-in FM transmitter to playback sound through the car’s stereo. It has preloaded maps of the United States and Canada on 2GB of internal flash memory as well as an SD card slot and lithium-polymer battery for five hours of operation. The unit ships at the end of July at $499.

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Well, heck, Garmin should

Well, heck, Garmin should have thought of that!!! It seems that it is a great idea, however, as we all know, not all great ideas are great realities.

I wonder how well that works. Man, that would very nice if it worked well.

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I agree

asianfire wrote:

Well, heck, Garmin should have thought of that!!! It seems that it is a great idea, however, as we all know, not all great ideas are great realities.

That's why I posted it. Hopefully Garmin is watching this site and or the competition.

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Garmin/TomTom

At the risk of staring a brand war... TomTom has always lead the way on inovation.

thanks for the info

thanks for the info

That would be nice

Yes, I hope Garmin is taking cues (or is the iQues?) from the other guys..
DeLorme lets you create new roads on their Street Atlas product (at least the last time I tried it about 2 years ago). You could also make your new roads navigable when auto-routing. That is an outstanding feature that should be incorporated into any mapping software.

~Rob

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sounds good on the surface

mkahn wrote:

... He may then connect the GO 720 to a PC to share the updates with other users through TomTom HOME software, which currently has one million users. TomTom says the software has built-in levels of security so that users can decide which map updates are the most reliable....

What's to stop a bunch of bogus updates from happening and being shared? Is that the built in security levels?

I think it would be awesome if I could make the map changes to MY own unit. I've recently moved to a smaller town and have noticed a bunch of errors.

I just don't know how much I'd trust changes made and posted by Johnny Q. Public, Mal Icious, Miss Guided, or Del Enquient.

For now I'll stick with a reputable cartography company and annual updates.

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Good point, I was thinking

Good point, I was thinking the same thing, but the idea in essense is great.

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TomTom NavCore 7

Here is the preview of the new TomTom NavCore 7:

http://www.yournav.com/content/s/342/First_meet_with_TomTom_...

It seems that the share feature has two option:

1. TomTom verified
2. All

The most fun part is that you can record your very own navigation voice for the unit. smile

Jeff

POI Update

I also think you can update the Tom Tom supplied POI's like restaurants and ATM's. That's the only complaint I have with Tom Tom in my iPAQ rx5915. If a new restaurant opens and you want to add it to the POI's from Tom Tom, no can do. Just have to navigate to the address or add it to a POI file that you installed from a great place like POI Factory.

I think it is supposed to be in Navigator 7 which is probably the basis for the NavCore 7.

Cheers

Interview

Here's the link to a recent interview between Jocelyn Vigreux, the president of TomTom USA and Peter Rojas of ENGADGET concerning Map/Share and the new GO 720: INTERVIEW

ML

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Adding a non-existing street

A new development was added to my street back in 2001 and although I've had three Garmin map updates the new road still doesn't "exist". Will I be able to ADD that new road with MapShare?

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Try this site

sportsound go to this site: www.tomtomforums.com and do a search for MAP SHARE - you will find the info you're looking for there.

From what I've been reading I'd say there are mixed emotions regarding this feature. In all fairness though, it is NEW technology and there will be bugs and kinks to iron out! smile

ML

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MapShare selection freedom

lsmonop wrote:

What's to stop a bunch of bogus updates from happening and being shared? Is that the built in security levels?

Via the TomTom Home software, you can tell TomTom what kind of MapShare corrections you want to download to your GPS:

  • Corrections I made myself
  • Corrections verified to TomTom
  • Corrections to POI I subscribed to
  • Corrections from trusted sources
  • Corrections reported by many
  • Corrections reported by some
  • So, you have great freedom in determining what kind of map alterations you allow on your GPS.

    MapShare - you can add a street that the Map doesn't have

    sportsound wrote:

    A new development was added to my street back in 2001 and although I've had three Garmin map updates the new road still doesn't "exist". Will I be able to ADD that new road with MapShare?

    yes.

    Re: sounds good on the surface

    lsmonop wrote:

    What's to stop a bunch of bogus updates from happening and being shared? Is that the built in security levels?

    I think it would be awesome if I could make the map changes to MY own unit. I've recently moved to a smaller town and have noticed a bunch of errors.

    I just don't know how much I'd trust changes made and posted by Johnny Q. Public, Mal Icious, Miss Guided, or Del Enquient.

    For now I'll stick with a reputable cartography company and annual updates.

    Yes, you can do just that! How this is implemented is that they (TomTom) are continuously verifying user updates for accuracy and correctness, but you can choose to download other users’ changes or not, based on the level of trust you decide. The filtering options are as follows:

    Changes I made myself
    Changes verified by Tomtom
    Changes to POI I subscribed to
    Changes from trusted sources
    Changes reported by many
    Changes reported by some

    Pic: http://www.clubtomtom.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/MapShar...

    And yeah, it IS awesome mrgreen

    Krieger

    This is a Great Idea

    Is it easy?

    Map Share

    And think about this... TomTom is buying Tele Atlas AND they will have a network of users giving them real time updates! What a better way of getting to the point where you can claim you have the most accurate up to date maps!

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    bkollar wrote:

    And think about this... TomTom is buying Tele Atlas AND they will have a network of users giving them real time updates! What a better way of getting to the point where you can claim you have the most accurate up to date maps!

    You are assuming data provided by users are accurate. I wouldn't trust anything other than my own personal edits or official confirmations . wink

    Assuming Data is accurate

    That argument could also be used for all the POI's we all enjoy downloading smile

    No way

    bkollar wrote:

    And think about this... TomTom is buying Tele Atlas AND they will have a network of users giving them real time updates! What a better way of getting to the point where you can claim you have the most accurate up to date maps!

    Call me untrusting but look around and see what kind of misinformation is occasionally provided here and on other web-sites. It will be the same with TomTom. You have to take the accuracy of the information with a grain of salt. Common sense and good judgement is the best way to go.

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    Data Accuracy

    DrewDT wrote:

    That argument could also be used for all the POI's we all enjoy downloading smile

    Absolutely!! Rip open any one of the POI's here and I bet you can find some form of error, from spelling to incorrect lat and long.

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    Nothing is perfect...

    Ein wrote:

    You are assuming data provided by users are accurate. I wouldn't trust anything other than my own personal edits or official confirmations . wink

    How do you know the "official" confirmations is any better? After all, mistakes happens, all the time. wink

    Jeff

    Works great for me

    I recently purchased a tt920t and i must say the map share is great. If anything is missing, u just click a icon. You can edit it right then and there or you can edit it when you get back to your home or whatever. Add POI's streets, road changes, pretty much anything that can be added. Send them in and it get verified before sending to other users. To me, Its the ultimate upgrade.

    RE:Works Great For Me Too!

    Yes...Fox Breakr...The nice thing is that you can add the missed roads. Believe me, up in the 'Cold North,' there are very few streets listed, and the nice thing is that you can 'add' them in...oh and of course add the 'igloos' and fuel stations. razz

    Accuracy of Maps

    This scares me. I'm afraid of random people putting maps on my GPS. Not everyone has the same level of skill or understanding of mapping. I would rather leave it to experts. The future is more likely good resolution photography from above and computers to find changes to roads and automatically update the maps.

    Jen

    I think Dash Express is the better business model

    jennyzita wrote:

    ...The future is more likely good resolution photography from above and computers to find changes to roads and automatically update the maps.

    Anything has to be better than the current system of manual entry with drive-by verification.

    I think the future will be better served with something like the Dash Express if they also added map updates via the tracks of the drivers. While the users will be automatically updating each other with traffic data, it could easily update the actual map to follow (or add) the road that it sees they are driving on. If it sees that people are driving across an open space, it could conclude that there is now a road there. The subscription model and internet connectivity should allow incremental map updates as they are discovered, not once a year as major compilations are released.

    interesting

    interesting

    Dash

    johnc wrote:
    jennyzita wrote:

    ...The future is more likely good resolution photography from above and computers to find changes to roads and automatically update the maps.

    Anything has to be better than the current system of manual entry with drive-by verification.

    I think the future will be better served with something like the Dash Express if they also added map updates via the tracks of the drivers. While the users will be automatically updating each other with traffic data, it could easily update the actual map to follow (or add) the road that it sees they are driving on. If it sees that people are driving across an open space, it could conclude that there is now a road there. The subscription model and internet connectivity should allow incremental map updates as they are discovered, not once a year as major compilations are released.

    They had the Dash gps unit on the 6:30 news tonight and it was showing the real time traffic alert.When the cars slow down in traffic some way it send signals to the towers and sends messages to like units of the traffic problem so they can re-route.They stated in the news more units by other dealers also coming out with this new technology soon.I think that maybe that is why some units are being discontinued.The Dash service does cost another 13 dollars a month for the traffic real time alerts.More information at http://www.dash.net/product/traffic.php

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    Garmin

    I wish Garmin would let us, the users, go into the Map Source program and change our own data and not necessarily update there information. I would love to be able to add missing streets in my home town or change roads names.

    MapSource is pretty limited

    Pryntis wrote:

    I wish Garmin would let us, the users, go into the Map Source program and change our own data and not necessarily update there information. I would love to be able to add missing streets in my home town or change roads names.

    I agree. And it would actually help Navteq if we made corrections and uploaded them. They would still need to verify the accuracy, but part of the work of updating would be done already. Their job would HAVE to be easier when viewing a user-supplied map update as opposed to a text-only description of what's wrong in their mapping reporting tool.

    I had Delorme Street Atlas 5 years ago and while it did not allow you to change the map data, you COULD draw in lines and make them routable. In this way, I "added" a couple local roads that were not on the map.

    I don't expect that sort of thing on a pocket Nuvi, but I was really surprised not to see some of that functionality in MapSource from the market leader. Garmin really needs to alter their upgrade model to allow for incremental updates - both from them as well as user-supplied. Why should we wait a year for a national update when we are really interested (and would mostly benefit from) a local update of a single region/city/etc that was finished a long time ago?

    Oh well - enough "armchair executive" for now. Soapbox off....

    I love the 720's ability to

    I love the 720's ability to let the user edit the map. I was recently driving down to southern Texas and there was alot of highway construction that needed to be updated on the map. I pulled over and made the corrections in roughly 3 minutes.

    Very nice piece of equipment.

    Updating maps

    johnc wrote:
    Pryntis wrote:

    I wish Garmin would let us, the users, go into the Map Source program and change our own data and not necessarily update there information. I would love to be able to add missing streets in my home town or change roads names.

    I agree. And it would actually help Navteq if we made corrections and uploaded them. They would still need to verify the accuracy, but part of the work of updating would be done already. Their job would HAVE to be easier when viewing a user-supplied map update as opposed to a text-only description of what's wrong in their mapping reporting tool.

    I had Delorme Street Atlas 5 years ago and while it did not allow you to change the map data, you COULD draw in lines and make them routable. In this way, I "added" a couple local roads that were not on the map.

    I don't expect that sort of thing on a pocket Nuvi, but I was really surprised not to see some of that functionality in MapSource from the market leader. Garmin really needs to alter their upgrade model to allow for incremental updates - both from them as well as user-supplied. Why should we wait a year for a national update when we are really interested (and would mostly benefit from) a local update of a single region/city/etc that was finished a long time ago?

    Oh well - enough "armchair executive" for now. Soapbox off....

    I must admit I didn't realize you could update the maps on a TomTom. I've had Garmin blinders on for a while, but this feature alone will make me strongly consider grabbing a TomTom. Great price in Costco on one right now.

    interesting

    interesting

    This would be a really great ideal for Garmin

    Pryntis wrote:

    I wish Garmin would let us, the users, go into the Map Source program and change our own data and not necessarily update there information. I would love to be able to add missing streets in my home town or change roads names.

    I really have to agree... This feature would be great. It would be a great benefit and a great selling feature. I now wish I had looked a little more seriously at the TomTom's.

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    Garmin can't release what they don't own.

    Pryntis wrote:

    I wish Garmin would let us, the users, go into the Map Source program and change our own data and not necessarily update there information. I would love to be able to add missing streets in my home town or change roads names.

    They don't own the map info, they buy it jut like you except they are the middle man making money on you once again. so that's not going to happen.

    Bob

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    Map updates

    Based on all of the comments here, I decided to try to add a new street in my TT 930. I was able to add the street very easily and submit it but it won't be available until Tomtom verifies the information, then it will be available to all TT users who have mapshare. A nice function to have, now let's see how long it takes for TT to verify and make what I just submitted available.

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    TomTom / Tele Atlas a done deal, Nokia / NAVTEQ moving in that d

    Rick2 wrote:

    Based on all of the comments here, I decided to try to add a new street in my TT 930. I was able to add the street very easily and submit it but it won't be available until Tomtom verifies the information, then it will be available to all TT users who have mapshare. A nice function to have, now let's see how long it takes for TT to verify and make what I just submitted available.

    Rick why don't you make a fictitious submit as well, and see if that makes it or is stopped.

    I wouldn't trust that system just yet, Mapping software is complex and to many yahoos at there with nothing but time on there hands. Figure it this way, if they get hundreds false entry's a day and they have to validate 1000's a day, I can't imagine how long they will put up with the waste of time.

    Hope it works!

    Bob

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    Good Idea

    Thanks for the idea...I'll try that. I totally agree with you about the number of additions they must get everyday...and how many are bogus. I'll post a bogus entry and see if it kicks back to me...I'll let everyone know what happens.

    I had to go out of town today but before I left I found a nifty little thing that I tried out along the way. There is a thing in TT that is called "Quick Menu Preferences". There is a list of things that can be setup as a Quick Menu that will show up as an icon on the TT screen...one of them is "Mark location of map error". I set that by putting a checkmark in the box by the title and an icon shows up on the screen....as I was travelling there were a number of incorrect speeds (from recent construction areas) so I pressed that icon and it flagged the map error. When I got home all I had to do was go into "correct map errors" and there they were...I made the speed adjustments and uploaded to mapshare...great feature as far as I'm concerned.

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    POI edit not all its cracked up to be.

    I got my Tomtom ONE 125 for Christmas. I thought it was pretty cool that users could help add to the data base of POIs. Then I had the same thought as all of you, what if its wrong. To my surprise the information was not AS wrong as I thought it would be. There are some POIs that aren't anywhere near the cross street they should be on. It's as if someone just tapped their finger over the "Area" it should be, rather then correct address or cross street. I drove to the new grocery store for a few items and spent about 5 minutes sitting the parking lot adding the missing POIs using the correct address posted on the building. I even took the time to Capitalize the proper names. Many of the Tomtom users in my area lack the grammatical courtesy of addressing the stores by their proper names or even the correct name. It's as if some are guessing. The new updates literally upload to Tomtom as is, exactly how you typed it. So a chain store, for example could have a dozen spellings. (Eckerd, RiteAid, Rite Aid, RITEAID ect.) There is no consistency over names, just categories.
    After uploading my data feeling proud of doing my part I realize I'm not getting any reward for this. Some "Joe Shmoe" could just go through and edit or erase my hard work or overwrite it with his own.
    Tomtom hasn't explained how any of this is verified. So for me, in my home town, I leave all POI's on and edit what I can. When I travel, I turn off User Edit POIs so as to not get bad info.