Is there a no right turn on red light POI?

Such a POI would have millions of entries and probably would not be a feasible task without assistance from the DOT of each state. Therein lies the issue: The DOT of each state I don't believe keeps that kind of data.

the no right turn on red rules would be more at the local level rather than a state or county level.

Also, aside from being huge, such a POI file would not be very useful. POI files are primarily used as destinations for navigation, or to alert the driver to an upcoming hazard (e.g., enforcement camera) or opportunity (e.g., rest area). Navigating to a "no right turn on red" (NRTOR) intersection is unlikely, and being warned of an upcoming NRTOR intersection is silly: if you get to the intersection and the light is red you proceed to turn right (or not) based on

- the overall "right turn on red" rule for that jurisdiction, plus

- any relevant signage at that particular intersection.

FWIW, according to Wikipedia the default rule is that right turns on red are permitted (unless signs indicate otherwise) everywhere in Canada and the US except New York City and the island of Montreal.

As society progresses, it seems like some become ever reliant on technology, to do things that their grandparents did with pencil and paper or using common sense. For example, how many people can amortize a mortgage today, without an internet connection?

Some people cannot get around their own city without a GPS.

imho, simply looking up at a sign, would indicate if right on red is ok, or not ok. We already know that POI files can be unreliable or inaccurate, so why not simply rely upon DOT's signage to determine right on red or not?

The DOT signage isn't that great. The "No Right On Red" sign at some intersections is sometime placed far away from the red light it self or other directional signs, alone at the edge of one of the curb, and it may take some searching to see it. Another way is to look at the marking on the ground: If the red line (or he right edge of the sensors) leaves you plenty of room to squeeze right, it's a good sign. But it's not "The Law" so it remains risky. I wish there was a more standarized way to indicate "No Right On Red", it self being some kind of a charade....

... but one heck of an undertaking in order to make it happen.

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a POI that was "No Right Turn On Red" would be more helpful since the assumption is that one can turn right on red unless otherwise directed.

That would be more useful. But, just as daunting, and perhaps more useful, would be U-Turn or No U-Turn allowed.

Here in PA the No Turn On Red signs are almost always on the same pole as the light fixture itself. The RLC signs on the other hand are a half a block before the intersection.

As for a POI, you need 10GB hard drive just for the Philadelphia area. ;p

... you just need eyes outside the cockpit.

I do like the idea of being alerted of this as I come up to it though.

the less attention you will pay to the warnings

I'll get right on it as soon as I finish my POI file for everywhere where you're not allowed to exceed the speed limit.

is a time window when you are not allowed to turn. I is sometimes difficult to read. When it's night and raining and no traffic and you are trying to see if it's OK to make the turn.

I am used to Driving in California and I now live in Phoenix and Turn Right (after Completely Stopping) on a Red Light (POI) and let me just tap my Head and Knock on Wood) have never, ever had a Ticket for doing so.

Yea, I've found this to be true with the GPS, also with my RADAR detector, so many construction/traffic warning signs have a radar gun attached in PA, it gets you just assume its one of those signs coming up. Fortunately I can "mark" those signs with my detector and it won't go off there again. The detector even has a GPS so if a cop with RADAR was behind the sign the detector would alert as the GPS locale of the signal would be slightly different.

In NH we have intersections with lighted signs that change depending on pedestrian traffic. There is no green arow at any time, only a red circle with a crossed out right turn arrow that lights up at times. Don't ask me how they came up with this idiotic idea.
My wife got ticketed shortly after one of these was implemented at an intersection where you used to be able to always right turn on red.

Another impact of the red light cameras. People are afraid to make a turn on red after stopping if no traffic is coming.

As much as many would like to see one, there is no regulation stating you have to turn right on red. It's one of those laws that's classified as "permissive" in that you can, but it's not required.

I'm guessing you also have a 9500ix?

Would be extremely hard to keep track of.

No a Beltronics Pro-500, which is nearly identical to the Escort model, minus a bell, and maybe a whistle.

They're both made in the same factory.

I was driving home after stopping at a store to get some things and stopped at a red light with the intention of taking a right. It was a right turn on red and I chose not to take it. The guy behind me starts laying on the horn and I simply sat there.

When the light changed I made my turn and the guy followed me. He then changed lanes and matched my speed, giving me a WTF look. So I gave him the finger and drove off, because I knew I was within my rights.

His shocked look was priceless, but the big finish was him getting pulled over for speeding because he chose to be impatient.

I'd agree, not much difference. The one good thing, in addition to the speed camera database, it also has a redlight camera database as well. I use this in addition to the POI Factory's database, so I guess you can say I'm a belt and suspenders kinda guy.

Never know when one might have a hit the other doesn't.

Gotta love it!

Guilty!

It took me a year to get up the courage to turn right on red at a RLC in Davenport. I saw the locals making complete stops, then turning. So I figured it is safe.
Maybe right on red was never ticketed.

Would you also have to have a "Left Turn on Red"..!!..?

Don't laugh. There are some cities (such as Rochester, N.Y.), that allow drivers to do what I just stated, ie: L on R.

Nuvi1300WTGPS

As long as it's from a one way street onto another one way street left on red is permissible, absent a prohibitive sign of course.

I have a friend who refuses to turn right on red, he won't put his turn indicator on until the light changes to avoid the happy honkers.

I think there are about 37 states that allow a Left Turn on red.

It's legal in VA, from a 1 way street to another 1 way street, as long as there is no sign prohibiting it, as Soberbyker stated.

In Newport News VA, at a very busy intersection (35th St. & Huntington Ave.) they had to put up 2 signs saying "Left Turn on red after stop". One is on the Traffic Signal crossbar and one is mounted on a pole at the stop line. This is a main exit from I-664 for the Newport news Shipyard with 19,000+ employees and god only knows how many Navy sailors for the Aircraft Carriers being worked on. Even with the signs, there are a lot of people that either won't make the LOR or they missed the signs. Must be a lot of sailors from states that don't allow it.