Article: "Your Car Tracked: The Rapid Rise of License Plate Readers (LPR's)"
Thu, 08/16/2012 - 5:51pm
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arstechnicia article: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/your-car-tracked-...
Well worth reading. Use is exploding and they are cropping up all over the place. Article sideboard describes a project attempting to inventory them that you can participate in if you so desire.
Sounds useful, until you end
Sounds useful, until you end up on someone's list by mistake...
New Jersey in 1990
This is meant to be tongue-in-cheek, a joke, not serious, right?
First of all, who would live in NJ without EZPass? The system has been around since the early 80's, before many on this forum were even born.
My wife and I moved out of NJ when she finished her doctorate and we moved to Florida in 1990. We didn't have EZPass and seldom drove on toll roads. I don't know how many people were early adopters, but we definitely were not.
To get to work (me) and NYU (my wife), we took PATH. I rode to the WTC, so 9/11 struck home. That was my PATH Station!
As for it being a joke, it was a rumor at the time. I have no idea how much truth there was to it.
The only time we took the Turpike was to visit my wife's family in MD, so we drove from Jersey City to the Delaware Memorial Bridge. Long enough that stopping for food was easy to do. So we never checked the accuracy of the rumor.
I'll be on the Turnpike again this spring; my daughter is on the college tour, and we're checking out two schools in Manhattan. We're coming from Ohio, and then returning home. (I suspect that one reason she picked two schools in NYC was to make sure we'd be in town long enough to catch at least one Broadway show.) Still no EZPass.
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I buzzed the turnpike with and without E-Z pass
My average speed was usually far above the posted speed. Not once did I receive anything in the mail. They would also have to factor in that sometimes the local or express lanes have different speed restrictions based on construction. They would need to determine which lanes you traveled in. Also weather can have the speed reduced as well (wind or visibility). There are too many variables at play for automated speed checks on that boulevard. Old fashioned officer in white Ford Crown Vic. is the only way.
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It's written into law here
My average speed was usually far above the posted speed. Not once did I receive anything in the mail. They would also have to factor in that sometimes the local or express lanes have different speed restrictions based on construction. They would need to determine which lanes you traveled in. Also weather can have the speed reduced as well (wind or visibility). There are too many variables at play for automated speed checks on that boulevard. Old fashioned officer in white Ford Crown Vic. is the only way.
Pennsylvania has a law that EZPass is not allowed to be used for anything but paying tolls, including speed checks.
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LPR
They are all over as well as cameras for everything else.
John_nuvi_
In Florida
Pennsylvania has a law that EZPass is not allowed to be used for anything but paying tolls, including speed checks.
The Miami Herald published that the Sun Pass records revealed that MDPD cops were leaving work early and clocking out when they were already home.
The cops will probably demand that their car's info will be scrubbed from the files every day.
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Detroit Police are Scary
...It can be argued that running a license plate check is a search without reasonable cause. Different states have different laws as to whether or not there needs to be reasonable cause to run a license plate. Most States say that a policehuman can run a check on any plate in plain sight, but it's being debated as to whether or not automated computerized checks without human intervention are legal.
Yes, it can be argued. But that is about it. Of course if it is proven that a cop used it to gain information for personal reasons, then that can lead to discipline, but it will never be prosecuted.
Bring on the readers.
Well, you have police in the completely corrupt city of Detroit running checks on people all the time, purely for personal reasons. Ever been pulled over for a traffic stop in Detroit for absolutely no reason? I'd rather be abducted by the Taliban. They see you on the road, run your plate, see where you live, and if it's a well-off address you get pulled over. Detroit police are scary. THAT is the abuse of the "in plain sight" system.
So far no one has challenged automated computerized checks without human intervention.
Re-CAL-culating... "Some people will believe anything they read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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Using E-ZPass for speeding tickets on the open highway is an urban legend. Theoretically it is possible, but you'd have to prove that the entire system is calibrated and several states have passed laws prohibiting using E-ZPass for that anyway.
You *can* get a ticket for speeding through an E-ZPass toll booth however, especially in Massachusetts. In other places, usually you get an E-ZPass administrative fine or a suspension of your account.
E-Z Pass Speeding
Using E-ZPass for speeding tickets on the open highway is an urban legend. Theoretically it is possible, but you'd have to prove that the entire system is calibrated and several states have passed laws prohibiting using E-ZPass for that anyway.
You *can* get a ticket for speeding through an E-ZPass toll booth however, especially in Massachusetts. In other places, usually you get an E-ZPass administrative fine or a suspension of your account.
Actually, E-Z Pass records were used here in Massachusetts against the police. An off-duty Boston police was pulled over by a Mass State Trooper on the Mass Pike and given a ticket for 100mph. There was a big mess, BPD was "how dare you give a cop a ticket". Staties pulled some EZ Pass records to show this cop regularly was doing 100mph+ on the pike and so were some of his buddies.
No tickets because of the EZ Pass but it was a big mess for the BPD. the cop was suspended.
Re-CAL-culating... "Some people will believe anything they read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln