Congress overturns incandescent light bulb ban

 
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Thanks

Good info. I hadn't heard and was getting worried. Not a fan of the CFLs

For example...

Try to use a CFL in a motion sensor light covering a large yard... By the time the damned thing gets up to full strength (especially in these northern climates in winter), the person could have crawled across my backyard without being identified.

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COOL!! Now what are they

COOL!! Now what are they going to try to ban next??

Not as exciting

Mercury bulbs are so much more exciting to use. Drop one of those suckers and you'd better clear the area and ventilate quickly.
smile

Hate the things

I hate the things. I hate the mercury in them as well as the way they function (which is poorly).

I hate having the nanny government tell me what I "MUST" use.

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jackj180 wrote:

I DO NOT want to live in your world Juggernaut!

That was your description, not mine. Your projection was quite interesting, though.

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Living in a temperate climate, the heat produced by incandescents is useful. The furnace doesn't need to work as hard AND we get light.

As to 'global warming'? That is dependent for the most part a demonstrable 125,000 year heat/cool cycle the sun exhibits - and of course the great cataclysms were the result of catastrophic events - major volcanic eruptions, large meteor strikes and so on.

We DO have a resource issue, but that's because we are overpopulating the globe - especially developing countries who somehow believe that they have the right to procreate like rabbits, which makes them no better than rabbits.

And a Prius? Give it up - the production, operation and eventual disposal of these 'green' vehicles is anything but. They may use less gasoline, but they create a heck of a lot of very toxic pollution as part of their manufacture, and you can never recover the extra money these things cost.

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Varying Needs

I installed CF lamps in many of the light fixtures in my home several years ago. I'm willing to accept their limitations in exchange for the energy savings, especially in the summer when an incandescent lamp's heat has to be air conditioned out of my house and costs me even more.

Some lamps in my house still have incandescent bulbs for the many well known reasons. There is not one correct answer for every application.

maybe the ¢ in energy savings

EV Driver wrote:

I'm willing to accept their limitations in exchange for the energy savings, especially in the summer when an incandescent lamp's heat has to be air conditioned out of my house and costs me even more.

Really, have you ever try touching a CF while is on? they get so HOT there is a WARNING on the box not to be used in fully enclosed light fixtures.

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Too late to save American

Too late to save American jobs

Right....

Double Tap wrote:

Man has nothing to do with climate change. It is a natural occurrence.

Keep telling yourself that......

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yank51 wrote:
Double Tap wrote:

Man has nothing to do with climate change. It is a natural occurrence.

Keep telling yourself that......

Actually, man does influence the matter, but nowhere near as much as the doomsayers would have you believe - if you compare temperature rises on neighboring planets they are increasing almost in perfect lockstep with those on Earth.

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CFL Quality

My experience has shown a high variability with the CFL quality, and the most problematic bulbs for me have been from FEIT, at least bulbs labeled as FEIT. Out of a carton of 8 bulbs for example, 1 or 2 either died quickly or well before the advertised lifetime was reached. Bulbs sold under the GE label seem to have performed better. That said, overall, I have been satisfied, and quality for these bulbs has improved over the years.

I'm waiting for the LED prices to drop a little more before giving them a try - it's getting closer that threshold though.

There they go again....

Creating a problem, just to be able to "solve" it. Nice Job, guys....all 535 of you that continue to drive the rest of us nuts.

thank goodness

This is good news but it may be too little too late.

The domestic bulb factories already closed permanently after the bulb ban was passed a few years ago, they will not be coming back.

This saga illustrates the folly in government trying to engineer what we buy. The CDLs have a purpose, but they are useless in cold weather, or if you want to use a dimmer, or if you want to have soft incandescent light.

Yes, you can purchase niche CDL bulbs that are dimmable, but they are very expensive and do not last long. We use brighter incandescent bulbs than we need, and then dim them to get the desired light. This saves energy and causes the bulbs to last forever (decades!)

The incandescent bulbs also do not require a hazmat crew to eliminate the toxic mercury fumes/particles/airborne droplets that contaminate a house if CDL bulbs are dropped. Most people toss CDL bulbs in the Trash (!!!) which causes severe pollution, especially if the trash is incinerated due to the toxic mercury in these bulbs.

Light Bulbs

THANKS - hopefully it'll be signed but God only knows what else is in that 1200 page Bill; but, as N Pelosi says, I guess they'll have to pass it so they can see what's in it.

Mercury laden bulbs from China will no longer be required if the Bill is signed - again; great, but the damage has been done - factories in the US have closed and the jobs are gone.

Elections have consequences.

RE camarabob

You need a hi-power flashlight mounted under the barrel - works great.

The claim about all other planets warming is not true

bramfrank wrote:
yank51 wrote:
Double Tap wrote:

Man has nothing to do with climate change. It is a natural occurrence.

Keep telling yourself that......

Actually, man does influence the matter, but nowhere near as much as the doomsayers would have you believe - if you compare temperature rises on neighboring planets they are increasing almost in perfect lockstep with those on Earth.

I hadn't heard that one before, but suspected it was not true because the sun is known to be cooling, not getting hotter, and what would explain all the solar system's planets getting hotter in lockstep with the earth is if the sun was getting hotter.

But websearching it myself, even where the other planets are concerned, the data does not support your claim. Some are warming. Some are cooling. Some planets have seasons that extend many years longer than our three month seasons, so their limited historical data can be difficult to interpret anyway. See for example:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-other-planets...

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I may decide not to use

I may decide not to use incandescent bulbs on my own, but I don't think government should be imposing that on me.

Hummm

dagarmin wrote:
bramfrank wrote:
yank51 wrote:
Double Tap wrote:

Man has nothing to do with climate change. It is a natural occurrence.

Keep telling yourself that......

Actually, man does influence the matter, but nowhere near as much as the doomsayers would have you believe - if you compare temperature rises on neighboring planets they are increasing almost in perfect lockstep with those on Earth.

I hadn't heard that one before, but suspected it was not true because the sun is known to be cooling, not getting hotter, and what would explain all the solar system's planets getting hotter in lockstep with the earth is if the sun was getting hotter.

But websearching it myself, even where the other planets are concerned, the data does not support your claim. Some are warming. Some are cooling. Some planets have seasons that extend many years longer than our three month seasons, so their limited historical data can be difficult to interpret anyway. See for example:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-other-planets...

I can't speak to the temperature changes taking place on other planets in our solar system but the only thing that can increase the temperature of our planet is the amount of heat we receive from the sun. If the amount of heat put out by our star drops to zero then the temperature of our planet will decrease regardless of the "greenhouse gasses" in our atmosphere. Every solar study I have seen indicates that the solar constant has increased over the last several decades.

But what has all of that got to do with congress refusing to fund the enforcement of a stupid law?

Smoking CFL

I came home to find the CFL in my Tiffany light fixture hanging over my kitchen table SMOKING !
I don't know what exactly is inside the base. Either a step down transformer, capacitor, or whatever. I am afraid to leave a CFL on while I am away from Home.
give me old incandescence. When they burn out the filament just pops!

Good. Everyone should have a

Good. Everyone should have a choice on what type of bulb they want to use.

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