Free WiFi

I'd suggest waiting until the build out reaches a point where a Sears/Kmart is more likely to have WiFi than not have it. It doesn't need to be precise, just more reports of "my Sears has it" than "not here yet".

I agree with the first response from NOMAD. This build out may take a while. Id see how it goes before Id go to all that trouble. But your File maintenace and dilligence is sure appreciated!

I have found a great number of free wifi in my area, most aren't listed in any list. I started my own POI for my area but kept find new ones after new ones. It seems that there are more with than without. Quite a few have their own system plus marginal coverage from a neighboring hot spot. Good luck on your POI file. I have given up on mine, it isn't needed.

With free WiFi becoming more the norm that the exception is a list truly needed? We know many fast food chains all have the service, all Starbleaah's, Corner Bakeries, Panera Breads, Cosi, and so many more. I don't bother to download the list as it's truly too easy to find a location. That, and in a pinch I just connect the phone.

I'm not saying the list doesn't have a purpose, when I need a hotspot I know I can just bring up the McD POI or one of the others I know have WiFi rather than store that many duplicate locations. There are those though that would rather have your list as it does make it simpler if all you are looking for is a hotspot.

Just as another observation, do you notice how many more people are on their tablet/computer at say one Starbucks than at any 5 McD's?

For me, the real value of such a list would be confidence in knowing that they actually do have free WiFi, not just a list of places that may have WiFi because they are a McDonalds/Starbucks/whatever. When I checked the McDonalds website last spring I found that ~2,000 of their ~14,000 locations in the U.S. did not have WiFi. Also, re: rainsux's comment above, I've never found WiFi at a Wendy's.

There are lots of options in the cities and along the Interstates. However, out in the boonies it could be valuable to know that, for example, the McDonalds in Wolf Point, MT has WiFi but the one in Havre, MT does not (at least it didn't the last time I was there).

I appreciate the fact that rainsux is continuing to work on the file.

However, as Box Car indicates, one can use a smartphone. Here is one of several articles that tell you how.
http://maketecheasier.com/tether-your-android-phone/2010/06/...

Or you are so far out of cell range that you have no signal?

Ugh, Sears. Their customer service has gone down the drain the last 5 years.

I imagine that in less than 8 years WiFi will be everywhere and free. But there will be better technology that is faster and easier to use on our future cell phones/tablets that we will still crave the latest smart phone.

When I have a choice, I will go to a Starbucks for free WiFi, rather than to a McD. Starbucks has comfortable seating!

But bad coffee, if you like just plain black coffee.

And EXPENSIVE.

But hey --- not the Wifi. Crappy coffee and free wifi versus Good coffee and no wifi. Depending on the situation, I can totally see myself take the former.

If you like the slow WiFi speeds at most of those places at least McD's will let you get somewhat flavorful dishwater for less and do offer free refills.

When we are on the road we stop late morning at McD's get a large cold drink, fill up our insulated water jugs with ice and water and fill up the computer with eMail. The cold drinks lasts till lunch time, ice water lasts most of the afternoon. Then we repeat if we are still on the road.

For those of you who have Internet connection like Cable Vision and Comcast and a few more you can enjoy free WiFi in most cities. They are strategically placed in locations in those cities so you can get free connection. The trick is you will have to enter your user name and password for the related internet provider.
In other words if you subscribe to Cable Vision you can not get access through Comcast. The free WiFi service is available in most cities where those companies provide Internet service.

@darkcanuck I would say more than just their customer services has gone down the drain! They make Target look like Saks!

Unfortunately, there is more than one category of Free WiFi. While they all claim to connect you to the internet for free, many are limited in what you can do once there. One the most annoying limit is when they allow you to surf around but will not let you use Skype to make a call. Another limitation is whether they allow your phone and your PC to talk to each other.

I wish there were some standards that would let us know upfront what the limits are.

I'd never use a laptop at McDs...just a different culture...I do use my iTouch at McDs...go figure

Don’t know if you are aware but Sears & Roebuck went down in 2005 when they were bought out by K-Mart

And to make things even more of a crime, K-Mart had just finished going through bankruptcy when they took over Sears . . .

I think in all States public libraries have free WiFi now. I use those a lot in NJ when I am on the road.

Rainsux:

Here's one you can add to your list:

-89.023868,42.492262,Neli's Family Restaurant,"1055 Gardner St, South Beloit, IL (815)389-0529"

I've never taken my laptop into a McDonalds to pass the time like I would at Starbucks, but a lot of times when I'm traveling and I need some information, I just park at a McDonalds and use the wifi without getting out of the car. I feel a little guilty doing it, but they say the wifi is free and I figure free means free.

As far as I know, it's not 'free with purchase'.

No need to feel guilty. All WiFi is free access as long as there is no code to enter to get online access. In NJ all public libraries have free WiFi. However I went into one town and the Library required me to show ID because I didn't have a library card. I connected to the WiFi but I could not get online because I needed a code. On showing my Drivers license i got the code and was able to get on line. That's the first I was required to do that.

Do you know if it is free for any N.J. resident, or is it free for anyone who can belong to the library system?

Can someone from out of state show a driver's license and be allowed acces to get online?

I appreciate the heads-up.

Regarding the speculation of Sears, Wendy's etc. I'd say don't include it until it is confirmed by somebody.

I agree, and going back to [-Nomad-]'s original reply I'd "vote" that the threshold should be much higher than 50%. As I said in my previous reply, IMO this group will be much less useful if it is a bunch of locations that might possibly have WiFi. Particularly irksome (for me) are all of the "McDonalds" locations in Walmart stores that don't have WiFi.

Maybe a compromise on the list would be to not list the chains like Starbucks, libraries, etc. where you know WiFi is available and only list the locations that wouldn't be generally known like "Grandma's Country Kitchen", or K Mart until they all have it.

Personally I find it more convenient to have them all listed. When I'm in an unfamiliar location if I have to search several files, WiFi - McDs - Starbucks - etc., to find the closest WiFi, it becomes a treasure hunt. If I'm in familiar territory, I don't need the file because I already know where the WiFi is.

As far as having WiFi available everywhere, since routers are only good for a couple hundred feet at the most, we are a loooong way from having WiFi available everywhere. Even picking up a reliable WiFi signal from outside the building can be hit and miss.

In NJ there are many libraries I have been into that do not require any ID if you have your computer or other online devices like PDAs. If you need to use the computers in the Library you definitely will need a library card or some ID for access code. For those libraries not requiring ID or access code if you have your own computer you get instant access NJ or other state residents. I like that because I travel to different cities in NJ every month and never had a problem getting access at the libraries.

What I find about routers is, a year or two ago folks didn't use the security function on the router. it was not secured or locked. If I am in a neighborhood I sometimes find multiple routers where I could log on to and get online. They had no security lock. If I got a weak signal I moved down or up until its gets stronger. Its different now. My current observation is that more people are using the security features. You cant log on line unless you get the security code. Its tougher to get connected for free.

I thought Sears was on their last leg and going out of business.

That's certainly true in residential areas because consumer-grade routers all used to ship with security disabled, ostensibly to reduce support calls. Now they ship locked-down and require you to run the "Setup Wizard" so you have to choose the level of security you want. That way, if someone parks in front of your house and uses your Internet connection for something illegal then it was your choice, not the manufacturer's.

The commercial space is the opposite. Businesses used to lock down their WiFi and try to get you to pay for it. Now in many cases the business owners have decided that it's better to just let anyone connect after they agree to their TOS (which absolves them of any responsibility for anything questionable that their customers might do).

All along I thought that router users have gotten more conscious about security. They may be but its because they were forced to use the security features. thanks for the insights.

While we argue what chains should be included I'll add an independent. While having lunch at my favorite barbecue place this week i notice they have free wireless. Try their brisket it is fantastic.

Bad To the Bone Barbecue
5120 New York 104
NY 14589-9624
(315) 589-9252
43.235727,-77.138676