iPhone 4S reviews are in

I'm currently using the iPhone 4 now on T-Mobile with data plan and will not get the 4S. The change not worth the $$$. You will need to shell out $2500 + $299 for the handset during the 2 years contract with AT&T or $1200 + $749 to buy out the unlocked handset to use with T-Mobile (no internet but save $$$)

Without using the iPhone you will pocket over $2800 over 2 years for yourself. If your family have 3-4 people the saving will make a lot different.

Come on people, you pay for PREMIUM that will make Apple richer and consumer poorer.

Apple really really good at PR. You buy the 4S this year which they call amazing device and next year they will slap your face with 5S and dig deeper to your pocket.

Another example Apple PR: they announce 4s on the 4th, Steve died on the 5th and the next day they said he left the company with 4 year worth of products. They want their stock holder to believe that right!!

IPhone 4S today with a 2 year contract, 14 months from now (Apples 4 to 4S release)the IPhone5 or whatever they call it releases, 10 months short of the two year contract. That equals $$$$ for technology that is moving so fast, that next month you will have wished you had waited when you see the 4S get passed by.

http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2011/10/cutting-room-apples-r...

http://allthingsd.com/20111011/the-iphone-finds-its-voice

Good, fair, objective review.

Thanks for the comments, I looked at one yesterday. I still think I like the Android though

The biggest difference between Vlingo and Apple's Siri is that Apple has the money to create incredible advertisements showing Siri's skills and pretending that they're the first to come up with something like it.

Just keeping the record straight, they weren't!

Good, fair, objective review from PC Mag.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394163,00.asp#fbid=ipQ...

Just the facts!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/apple-ipho...

All the noise about 4S vs 5 is pretty funny. People view Apple as a hardware company. But it is really a software company, in particular, an OS software company. And what has been proven by decades of experience is that in order to have the intended consumer experience, the hardware must be the right hardware to run that software. That's why Apple does its own hardware, to make sure the software experience is as designed.

People, let us not forget that the GUI was started at Xerox, then Apple deployed it, MS copied it, and Apple perfected it.

Look, say I get a 4S now and the 5 comes out in about a year and I have to have it. Fine, I get the 5 and sell the 4S to make up the termination fee. Big deal.

You are not a target customer to get a 4S if you are currently using a 4.

So how much more is the Apple over what ever else? Please do the complete analysis.

It takes years to develop new products, years to get working silicon from an idea. It took years to get the A4, A5, and other custom silicon ready for production from the specification. The 4S was planned years ago, as was the 4, 3Gs, 3G, and the original iPhone. The original iPhone was released in 2007 but was probably started at Apple in 2002 or 2003. Do think these things just happen over night? Production starts several months before release to build up a supply buffer. The 5 is in design right now and probably has been for some time, and probably the 5S, and the plans and ideas are being sorted out for the 6, 6S, 7, ...

The GSM functionality of the iP4S will be UNLOCKED at point of sale on Sprint, and by request after 60 days on Verizon (that's always been their world-phone policy...) - so, if you're traveling abroad, you can buy prepaid GSM service in the place you're visiting and likely save $$ compared to an international service package with Sprint or Verizon.

http://www.macworld.com/article/162960/2011/10/how_internati...

Revised: OK, it looks like Sprint is not unlocking... at all.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/sprint-and-verizon-confir...

without the iPhone or smartphone that make you pay $100/month for the service you still breath and will be wealthier, save time that you'll spend on those devices and focus on something else for a better life.

I think I'll stick with my Samsung Charge Android phone. I can't see much the new iPhone will do that my Chage won't do.

Their iPhones SIM cards are non removable? What did they do? Super glue the SIM slot? Why even bother to make GSM + CDMA phones if they're not usable? Greed... ah yes, they're typical greedy US providers. They have to be sure we incur roaming charges.

Where in the world do you get your figures from. 100$ a month? Huh! $2.500 over the 2 year contract. Please explain this.

First off, I have AT&T service, and the data plan is $30 a month not $100. Any other charge i would have anyway no matter providing I want a cell phone which of course I do.

And the $30 I knew about before I got the iPhone so of course I think that's worth it or I wouldn't have gotten a smart phone.

I also chose to buy a Garmin street Pilot back in 1998 and continue upgrading my GPS's even though I know a paper map is cheaper. What's your thoughts on that?

"Underwhelmed"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/10/04/f-iphone-...

Is over a week old. It seems by now a lot of people have dismissed that type of review.

Once you have speed, you can never give it up.

What speed are you getting?

Except for the hardcore fans.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-13/apple-iphone-sel...

Go for it then....

I saw on I think it was CBS where they were reviewing the 4S by talking to it....took 4 tries to get the phone to partially understand what she was saying. What some don't realize is that the talking to the phone is a Beta item...I'll stick with my Android....

I had 2 criteria for getting an iPhone, 1 - Large screen, 2 - LTE. will not be getting one, I could probably wait a couple of months,(I can get a new phone after Dec) when the iPhone 5 really comes out to see what it has.

Qualcomm isn't slated to release the next generation of chipsets for quad band radios they'd need for an LTE iPhone until Q2-2012.

I think they'll announce LTE iPhones next summer, release about a year from now is my wild-arsed speculative guess... and I'll be in the window of eligibility to upgrade again.

If that floats your boat, then jump in and sink with it. Termination fee's at 10 months out are crazy.

Sprint got some heat... change of heart...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/sprint-explains-iphone-4s...

You have to be friggin' kidding. Sprint is a joke.

Verizon has always been willing to unlock the GSM side of a "world phone" as I noted above... looks like Sprint is going to follow that lead.

Like I said in another thread, not all that impressive when you look at past Apple events.

Considering Apple has added 90 carriers in the past year, including Verizon, it's actually weak.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-iphone-4ss-1-million-pre-...

Sprint with unlimited data, text, picture mail and 450 minutes talk on my dumb phone for a Great rate the others cannot beat. If I ever decide to get with the times I would get an iphone with Sprint because of the unlimited data - rate.

I must agree that in the past dealing with Sprint was a huge joke that did not leave me laughing. Having been with them 10+ years the customer service has bettered itself.

The device comes unlocked, and then they push a re-lock. Then, 'good' customers get unlocked after 60 days. WTH?

The US does strange business.

http://youtu.be/E91Qu1nVQtE

not as great as it sounds in the demo

http://youtu.be/wd7taHnHzcg

It's a non scientific test but all carriers show a very unimpressive speed of less than 1 Mbps.

.....there is a setting that must be turned on within the device to connect to GSM. The phone will work with a SIM that is provided within the device out of the box. International voice and data charges are on a pay-as-you-go basis and vary based on the country where the customer is using their phone....

Complete Sprint's Mermelstein’s verbatim statement:

http://www.powerpage.org/2011/10/14/sprint-clarifies-iphone-...

Verizon iPhone 4S SIM unlock rules clarified as Sprint reports total lockdown

“It is our standard unlock policy for all Global Phones. You have to have been a customer for 60 days and in good standing (meaning your bill is current) and the phone you want to unlock must be on our network at the time of the request. You call Verizon Wireless before you leave the country and we unlock the SIM. We will honor one unlock every 10 months.” — Brenda Raney, Verizon Wireless Public Relations

more:
http://www.slashgear.com/verizon-iphone-4s-sim-unlock-rules-...

It is amazing, and that is comparing to an iPhone 3G.

I also played with the Androids while I was in line. Nice, but I prefer the iPhone. The Galaxy is too big for me.

The 4S runs apps so much faster. I haven't had a chance to play with GPS stuff yet, but Navigon loads almost instantaneously now.

iOS5 is very feature rich. I have plenty of exploring to do.

I have to wait until february for my contract to come up. I'm in the process of putting iOS5 on my iPad at this moment. My iPhone is jail broken so I'm not sure when 'llI upgrade that to iOS5.

thanks

I'm not an iPhone/Apple fanatic...far from it. In fact, when Droids first came out a few years ago, I thought they might (would?) leapfrog the iPhone. And you know, they definitely have a huge market share now.

I've never owned an iPhone but I've had an Ipod Touch for a couple of years now. As you probably know, it's essentially the same thing as an iPhone sans the phone. And I love it.

I got my first Droid phone a few weeks ago, and my gosh, it's kind of discombobulated if you ask me. I'm still learning it and maybe someday, I'll grow to love it. But for now, if I could switch to an iPhone without incurring a huge cost, I'd leap at the chance.

I'm also noticing the Android versions of apps are not as friendly as the Apple/Itunes versions on my Touch.

Funny thing. As my friends have picked up their first Droid phone in the past year or so, each, young and old, has repeatedly commented on how hard it is to get used to it.

I sure don't remember hearing any of my friends with iPhones saying that.

Please don't consider this Droid bashing. It's not meant to be. Just an observation from my own experience and what my friends have said. In fact, I'm really glad we have Droids out there. It keeps Apple on their toes and perhaps expedites new features!

I'm so glad I bought a smart phone for the long term, and not for whatever way the current wind blows...

I love technology, but not when it starts to rule my life. I decide when, and what I adopt.

On Friday morning, my business partner handed me one just after the UPS man delivered three of them to the office (one for my business partner, a white one for his wife and one for me). I already have an iPad 2 and an iPod Touch 4 so the interface and operation was nothing new to me. I am impressed at the speed of the processor. Definitely as fast as an iPad 2 when running applications. The iPod Touch 4 uses an A4 processor and is a bit slower BUT has better battery life.

My phone was added to the company's Sprint plan and I have unlimited data and almost unlimited minutes. I have to decide if I will cancel my personal cell account with T-Mobile and replace the new number I just got (and cannot remember) with the cell number I have been using for six years. In the meantime, I may take a look at the GPS apps and see what they are doing. I am not ditching my 765T!

Don't forget that's once every 10 months only!

Is paid for by somebody else.

All the people complaining about Unlocking and Not Unlocking, just buy it direct from Apple, and there's no concern. Problem Solved.

Telenav is included in the Sprint data plans with Android, so there should be one on the IPhone as well.

It's good in a pinch, but it won't replace my GPSr either.

I've been with Sprint for 2 years now and am just as happy with them as I was with ATT for 3 years and T-Mobil for a about 10 years before that. All carriers have strong and weak points. I gave up T-M because I stopped heavy overseas travel and no longer needed a GSM phone outside the USA. In the USA T-M still has poor coverage outside of Major metro areas. If I need GSM now on a vacation I just pull an old dumb phone out of the storage box buy a SIM card when overseas and I am up and running. As for internet I use a computer and don't need a smart phone when traveling.

So I went to my local Apple store yesterday to get a case for my iPhone 4S and I noticed the store had several huge auxiliary air conditioners. The store was exceptionally crowded, much more so than I've seen. It turns out the additional A/C was needed because the store gets so much traffic the normal A/C can't handle the heat load, so they need additional A/C because of all the huge numbers of people in the store. Now that's a "problem" everybody wishes they had.

Ended up getting the plain edge bumpers, not a full case.

Still very impressed with the iPhone 4S. Quite a remarkable amount of capability in such a small and simple device.

https://discussions.apple.com/message/16481719?tstart=0#1648...

Would that mean they were holding it wrong?

Hopefully it will have 4G and they'll have the bugs worked out that kept them from releasing it in the first place! Until then, the iPhone 4 is good enough.