I need help with 295w

 

I am trying to load a total of 140 files from this site. Everything loads OK. When I WHERE TO>EXTRAS>Custom POIs, I scroll through all the files. As I count them, my unit will only show 101 files.
This is what I have tried: (1)I updated my software to current version. (2) I split my largest folder into 2 parts and loaded separately. (3) I loaded the largest file to my SD card and selected to not transfer the folder to the unit. (4) I made sure I had enough free memory after each attempt...No luck. Then I re-assembled the split up folder, and deleted many files. It loaded and displays all 101 files now. But I still want 140.
I deleted the .gpi files from the unit and the card before using the poi loader each time. I am using the POI loader that I downloaded in August 2011.
My 1490t is using all 140 files with no problem.
Any ideas?

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Try a copy.

You might try to just copy the GPI file(s) over from the 1490 instead of reloading with POI Loader. I don't know if it will work, but it is worth a try.

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Do you have custom pois set

Do you have custom pois set up as categories ?If yes how many subfolders do you have? Also what is the highest number of files you have in one of the subfolders?

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More info

@alan: The 295 has MP3 & the 1490 has wav. Thanks. Good idea though.
Charlie: I have recounted the files. After subtracting all the MP3 & BMP files, these are the poi files that I have.
TourGuides.gpi = 3
Custom295.gpi = 19
CSVEXP.gpi = 98
Redlight.gpi = 2

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What is the largest number

What is the largest number of files you have in one subfolder on the computer? For example food ,do you have a combination gpx and csv over 32?

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

No subfolders

spokybob wrote:

@alan: The 295 has MP3 & the 1490 has wav. Thanks. Good idea though.
Charlie: I have recounted the files. After subtracting all the MP3 & BMP files, these are the poi files that I have.
TourGuides.gpi = 3
Custom295.gpi = 19
CSVEXP.gpi = 98
Redlight.gpi = 2

I copied the .gpi folders 1490>295 per Alan's suggestion. I am missing 22 files. When I tried splitting up the CSVEXP equally into A & B, I still am missing 22 files. I have also tried using POI loader in a different order. I still will be missing 22 files on the unit, always the last 22 that were loaded.
...We are off to the parade and a cabin on the river. Have a great day.

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@spokybob

Let me try to recap what you have written.

You have tried to load 140 files on your 295 but only 101 show up in WHERE TO>EXTRAS>Custom POIs.

You have these ??same?? 140 files loaded on your 1490 and they all show up.

Charlesd45 asked you about files on your computer (not on your GPS units). You might want to take a quick look at one of his FAQs to see why he was asking that question. http://www.poi-factory.com/node/25721

Once you have looked at this FAQ, then his question on how many subfolders you have will make more sense as there is a limit of 32. The subfolders become categories

Now, let me make a suggestion about the .mp3 and .wav files. Unless you are really strapped for space (and you can delete unused language and help files if you have not alreay done so), you can convert your .mp3 files to .wav files and have only one set of "MyPOI" files that you load to both GPSs. A lot of us use Audacity for this task. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Most of us count as a computer "POI file" (1) the POI file (.csv or .gpx) AND (2) any associated .bmp and/or (.mp3 or .wav) as ONE POI file. On your computer, there might be three files - but once POILoader has digested them, there will be one .gpi file on your computer. NOTE - you could load multiple POI sets from your computer to only one .gpi file on the GPS if you so desired.

You seem to have loaded files as follows
TourGuides.gpi = 3
Custom295.gpi = 19
CSVEXP.gpi = 98
Redlight.gpi = 2

I count 122 .gpi files which does not match with either the 101 or the 140 - so I suspect that we are mixing up what is on the computer and what is on the GPS(s).

Please tell us roughly what you do when using POILoader. Do you point it to a single folder which has multiple files and or up to 32 subfolders? Or, do you point it to different folders on your computer and run it multiple times. It sounds like the latter because you list 122 .gpi files BUT you also comment that you are missing the last 22 that were loaded.

Have a nice day at the

Have a nice day at the parade.Try taking the last 22 that are missing and make a separate subfolder for just them and put the 22 in that subfolder for testing.Run poiloader again and see if they show up.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

limit on number of files

jgermann wrote:

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Once you have looked at this FAQ, then his question on how many subfolders you have will make more sense as there is a limit of 32. The subfolders become categories
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Charlesd45 asked how many files were in a subfolder, not how many subfolders there are. And the 32 limit is on the number of files in a subfolder.

I assume you just accidently misspoke because I know you have said the limit is on the number of files in a subfolder here and in a message to Gary Hayman (so he states on his site.)

Now, I hope I have not mis-read and jumped off a conclusion cliff again. If I have, I think I had best quit posting.

what it sounds as if

It sounds as if you have loaded multiple GPI files.

spokybob wrote:

I am trying to load a total of 140 files from this site. Everything loads OK. When I WHERE TO>EXTRAS>Custom POIs, I scroll through all the files. As I count them, my unit will only show 101 files.
This is what I have tried: (1)I updated my software to current version.

OK we know the unit software is correct. what version of pOILoader are we playing with?

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(2) I split my largest folder into 2 parts and loaded separately.

Not a problem if you are not doing sub-folders.

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(3) I loaded the largest file to my SD card and selected to not transfer the folder to the unit.

OK, again nice information as it tells us some of what you have done to troubleshoot.

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(4) I made sure I had enough free memory after each attempt...No luck. Then I re-assembled the split up folder, and deleted many files.

What files did you delete? garmin voice, text and help files?

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It loaded and displays all 101 files now. But I still want 140.

OK, what loads and displays "all 101 files?" Where does the number 101 come from?

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I deleted the .gpi files from the unit and the card before using the poi loader each time. I am using the POI loader that I downloaded in August 2011.

Does this mean version 2.6.1 or 2.7.0? If you can, go back to 2.6.1 and try the process again.

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My 1490t is using all 140 files with no problem.
Any ideas?

Time for a little comparison. I don't have any experience with the 1XXX series, so bear with me here.
1) How many GPI files are on the 1490?
2) Are there the same number of GPI files on the 295?
3) Are all the files in the same folder on both Nuvis?

On another note to others lurking on the thread - My experience with POILoader and sub folders is 32 files max in 32 folders. Now, I haven't retested the max number of files in a folder or the max number of folders since some of the early 2.4.x days of POILoader, so that limit may have gone away. if it has, great but there is no problem with limiting the number of files in a folder or the number of folders.

Spokybob says one of his GPI files has 101 files, so that means, to me no subfolders.

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number of files and folders

Box Car wrote:

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On another note to others lurking on the thread - My experience with POILoader and sub folders is 32 files max in 32 folders. Now, I haven't retested the max number of files in a folder or the max number of folders since some of the early 2.4.x days of POILoader, so that limit may have gone away. if it has, great but there is no problem with limiting the number of files in a folder or the number of folders.

Spokybob says one of his GPI files has 101 files, so that means, to me no subfolders.

I tested the 32 file limit using POI Loader 2.7.0.0 shortly before my post above. I had 40 files in a subfolder. There were no other files or folders in the Parent folder.

POI Loader announced the 32 file limit and shut down without using any of the files (i.e no parentfoldername.gpi file was created.)

I have not tested for a limit on number of subfolders but have been setting up to test that. In the past some here at POI Factory have stated that the subfolder is 255, one said 256, another said 257, and yet another said there is no limit. These are quite old posts so that may be changed now too.

295W is a strange breed

Since SpokyBob has been able to successfully load these POI's on his 1490 and is only having the problem with the 295W, I tend to think the issue is a restriction or limit that is unique to the 295W model and not a POI Loader issue or something he is doing wrong.

The 295W hardware and software is a repurposed nuviphone with the phone functions removed. Therefore it is unlike any other nuvi model. So I would not be surprised if there are some limits or restrictions or software anamolies in the 295W that do not exist in other nuvis. Maybe it is the number of folders, number of files per folder, total number of files, or even the total number of individual POI's that the 295W can not support.

I hope a solution can be found for Spokybob. But with the 295W being the weird hybrid it is, we may all be beating our heads against the wall.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Red faced, I am

Evert wrote:
jgermann wrote:

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Once you have looked at this FAQ, then his question on how many subfolders you have will make more sense as there is a limit of 32. The subfolders become categories
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Charlesd45 asked how many files were in a subfolder, not how many subfolders there are. And the 32 limit is on the number of files in a subfolder.

I assume you just accidently misspoke because I know you have said the limit is on the number of files in a subfolder here and in a message to Gary Hayman (so he states on his site.)

Now, I hope I have not mis-read and jumped off a conclusion cliff again. If I have, I think I had best quit posting.

Evert, you can still read.

I must admit that I did that response in something of a hurry as my wife wanted to make out daily visit to see her mother at the Assisted Living. I did not phrase my comments well because charlesd45 was asking about files in a folder but my mind was also working wondering if there were any subfolders at all.

Keep me straight. We all want to make sure that others reading our posts are informed correctly.

295W and folder limits

alandb wrote:

Since SpokyBob has been able to successfully load these POI's on his 1490 and is only having the problem with the 295W, I tend to think the issue is a restriction or limit that is unique to the 295W model and not a POI Loader issue or something he is doing wrong.

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I completed a short test using 40 subfolders

Parent folder (which POI Loader was pointed to) name : subfolder test
subfolders: subfolder(1), subfolder(2), ...........subfolder(40)
There is one csv or gpx file in each folder.
POI Loader 2.7.0.0

Result: POI Loader reported no errors and said 156,926 pois were loaded.

All 40 subfolder names appeared as categories in Extras on my 295W.

Exactly the same results were obtained on my 285W.

jgermann wrote:

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.... my mind was also working wondering if there were any subfolders at all.

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I do not mean to make him feel bad but frankly the way he apparently misuses the terms file, folder and poi, I am completley confused as to what his setup is.

Number of files and Folders

In an earlier post

Evert wrote:

I tested the 32 file limit using POI Loader 2.7.0.0 shortly before my post above. I had 40 files in a subfolder. There were no other files or folders in the Parent folder.

POI Loader announced the 32 file limit and shut down without using any of the files (i.e no parentfoldername.gpi file was created.)

Then in the post above

Evert wrote:

I completed a short test using 40 subfolders

Parent folder (which POI Loader was pointed to) name : subfolder test
subfolders: subfolder(1), subfolder(2), ...........subfolder(40)
There is one csv or gpx file in each folder.
POI Loader 2.7.0.0

Result: POI Loader reported no errors and said 156,926 pois were loaded.

All 40 subfolder names appeared as categories in Extras on my 295W.

Exactly the same results were obtained on my 285W.

@evert - Thanks

That is great information. I have not yet switched to 2.7.0 because there has been comments of problems but soon will.

I would think that you ought to give this new information directly to ghayman so he can update his site.

@Evert, jgermann

Evert wrote:
alandb wrote:

Since SpokyBob has been able to successfully load these POI's on his 1490 and is only having the problem with the 295W, I tend to think the issue is a restriction or limit that is unique to the 295W model and not a POI Loader issue or something he is doing wrong.

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I completed a short test using 40 subfolders

Rather than hijack this thread, let's start a new thread to discuss the number of files allowed in a subfolder and the number of subfolders.

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Hijack?

Box Car wrote:
Evert wrote:
alandb wrote:

Since SpokyBob has been able to successfully load these POI's on his 1490 and is only having the problem with the 295W, I tend to think the issue is a restriction or limit that is unique to the 295W model and not a POI Loader issue or something he is doing wrong.

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I completed a short test using 40 subfolders

Rather than hijack this thread, let's start a new thread to discuss the number of files allowed in a subfolder and the number of subfolders.

The reporting of my test was directly related to whether a subfolder limit may be an issue on the OP's 295W. I don't view discussing that as "hijacking this thread".

Also I figured it would serve to let any "lurkers on the thread" know that others have had different results than your "experience with POILoader and sub folders is 32 files max in 32 folders".

There are already several threads discussing the 32 limit but none that referenced the 295W that I could find.

But if you want to start a new one I would try to participate in it. However I don't have much time right now to do things like test the 255 subfolder limit.

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I'm out of this discussion.

I'm out of this discussion.

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In over my head, But problem solved

I admit freely that file structure is still a mystery to me. The new POI loader made it easy to have multiple .gpi on my Garmins. However,one of my folders on the PC contained 98 files. Reading through the above posts I still do not understand why my 1490 shows all the files in Where To>Extras> Custom POIs and my 295w does not show all the files. Or why only 22 files are missing.
My attempt to split the large folder into smaller folders and loaded separately did not solve the problem. Copying the contents from my 1490 to the 295 did not work either.
Charlie suggested creating subfolders of 32 or less files in each. That seem easy enough. I tried that first and VOILA! Thanks to all.

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Glad it worked out spokybob .

Glad it worked out spokybob .By the way are you using 2.70 poiloader? Shouldn't make a difference though.Just curious. Finding some units showing different results then others.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

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charlesd45 wrote:

Glad it worked out spokybob .By the way are you using 2.70 poiloader? Shouldn't make a difference though.Just curious. Finding some units showing different results then others.

v2.5.17

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