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2012.1 Duplicate Cities

 
Sat, 05/21/2011 - 2:04pm

I noticed a weird problem since I installed the 2012.10 maps.

I find that when I search for a city, my 885T returns two cities with the same name. For example there are two Ottawa's , two Toronto's, two Sudbury's, and two of my hometown Barrie.

I tried picking a dozen random cities in the USA, but did not experience the same problem, however I did find a few others in other provinces of Canada.

It looks like I can choose either the first or second listing, and the remaining data entry works normally.

That is, with the exception of Barrie Ontario. If I pick the first occurrence of Barrie, not a single street in the city can be found. In fact, after entering the house number it goes to the "Enter Street" screen for only a second before jumping immediately to a list of three roads in the city.

If I choose the second occurrence of Barrie, everything works as expected.

I was wondering if anyone else had seen this. Perhaps someone can take a moment and search for something in Barrie Ontario, and verify if they also get two entries returned.

TIA

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 2:16pm

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I do see them as well, how odd. But, on my unit, I can choose either and it shows the map.

I wonder if this has to do with some of the speed limits now being shown?

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 2:25pm

Only see 1

If I go into cities with my 765t and type in barrie I see only one Barrie, ON, Barrie Island, ON.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 2:29pm

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Scroll down to the next list, and you'll see dupes, or should.

Edit - Montreal does it as well.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 2:37pm

Thought? One for the

Thought?

One for the suburbs, and one for the city proper? One town near me is listed twice.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 2:45pm

One Barrie

Frside007 wrote:

If I go into cities with my 765t and type in barrie I see only one Barrie, ON, Barrie Island, ON.

I get the same thing on 265.No duplicate.Do get two Ottawa's and Toronto's.Same miles for each.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 3:04pm

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The duplicates only seem to go as far west as Winnipeg and no further. I checked 'London' ON, and got 2, as well as 2 Londonderry, NB. I'll bet there are more yet in the east.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 3:40pm

Compare "Address Search" To "City Search"

Juggernaut wrote:

I do see them as well, how odd. But, on my unit, I can choose either and it shows the map.

As I said, it doesn't matter which of the two entries I select, they both let me continue to enter a street number and then street name.

That is with the exception of the first entry for Barrie. After entering the street number, there are no street names ever found.

If I "Search For City" (rather than address), two entries pop up for all the cities I mentioned except for Barrie, which only has one entry in this type of search.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:04pm

2012.10 Duplicate Cities

I downloaded the new 2012.10 Maps on my Garmin 1490LMT this morning. I did a search for both Barrie and Toronto and the 2 Cities were duplicated.
I live in Alberta so I checked Calgary & Edmonton and they were both fine. Suggest you check with Garmin on this one.

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:10pm

Garmin has the answer.

From page 3 of the 2011.3 thread (http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31139?page=2)

Quote:

From Garmin:

Question: Why do some Canadian cities appear twice when searching for addresses?

Answer:
When entering a Canadian address into a unit that has 2011.10 map software or later installed, the city may be listed twice when selecting a city to search for an address. This is due to the map software listing the city in both English and French within the map data. Any city that is spelled the same in French and English will appear twice in a city search.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:25pm

Awe yes

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

From page 3 of the 2011.3 thread (http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31139?page=2)

Quote:

From Garmin:

Question: Why do some Canadian cities appear twice when searching for addresses?

Answer:
When entering a Canadian address into a unit that has 2011.10 map software or later installed, the city may be listed twice when selecting a city to search for an address. This is due to the map software listing the city in both English and French within the map data. Any city that is spelled the same in French and English will appear twice in a city search.

Awe yes that two official language thing we have up here.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:30pm

Down here in the US, right

Down here in the US, right near where I live I have a Somerset, and a Somerset Twn. Best I can figure, Somerset Twn is referring to the town itself, while Somerset refers to the surrounding area.

So even the US has this feature, but for a different reason.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:39pm

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I believe 'Twn' means Township.

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 6:56pm

You May Be Right

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

When entering a Canadian address into a unit that has 2011.10 map software or later installed, the city may be listed twice when selecting a city to search for an address. This is due to the map software listing the city in both English and French within the map data. Any city that is spelled the same in French and English will appear twice in a city search.

I can understand that for a city like Montréal which has an accent over the letter "E" in the French spelling, and no accent for the English spelling. Different spellings would appear as different entries in any type of database.

However the two "Toronto's" that appear are spelled identically. How does having two entries spelled the same help anyone.

I have seen street names duplicated because of language, such as "Bank St." and "Rue Bank" in Ottawa. These are both the same street, but two entries appear because of the different spelling.

The duplication doesn't seem to cause any problem when searching for an address. That is except in the city of Barrie, where the first Barrie has no streets within it.

Since I am looking up addresses in Barrie every week, I know that Barrie just "became bilingual" with the release of the 2012.10 maps.

I've lived here for years and nobody told me!!!

Sat, 05/21/2011 - 7:32pm

Since when...

Did 'Ottawa' have an accent grave? C'est quoi? Je ne comprende pas...

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 8:06pm

Clearly, there are some

Clearly, there are some problems with Canada. Barrie should display its streets regardless of which one is pressed. Ottawa does not have an accent mark at all in English or French.

Let Garmin know so they can get 2012.11 out. *rolls eyes*

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Sat, 05/21/2011 - 8:08pm

Yep

Neither does Toronto, or Londonderry, NB, Winnipeg, or...

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