I wonder if anyone is currently building a POI file of all the nuclear power plants in the US & Canada? I don't see one when I search the files here.
Seems like it might be a worthwhile POI to have loaded into your unit.
Just look for the glows on Google Earth.
I do not know why, but I suddenly feel interested in knowing where they are.... LOL!
This map and links give the general locations but not the GPS coordinates:
I was just kidding, but thanks for the link. I was surprised to see how many power plants there were on the East coast compared to the West coast. Interesting!
Back to topic:
If you do a View Source in your Browser, you can find the different plants with their coordinates on the map. For example:
coords="385,209" href="wb1.html" alt="Watts Barr 1"
coords="277,215" href="ano1.html" alt="Arkansas Nuclear 1"
coords="287,215" href="ano2.html" alt="Arkansas Nuclear 2"
coords="430,124" href="bv1.html" alt="Beaver Valley 1"
coords="438,123" href="bv2.html" alt="Beaver Valley 2"
coords="335,129" href="brai1.html" alt="Braidwood 1"
coords="342,128" href="brai2.html" alt="Braidwood 2"
coords="365,226" href="bf1.html" alt="Browns Ferry 1"
coords="361,238" href="bf2.html" alt="Browns Ferry 2"
One could convert the map coordinate to lon/lat coordinate. It would not be precise, but it would be something. Then, you can go on GoogleEarth or maybe StreetView and refine the position.
Note: the coords above are the coordinates of the little US maps.
I created a file for most sites in the US but it was removed because it was felt that it was giving aid to the enemy I guess. There is a site that list the co-ordinates but I don't have it with me right now. With Google Earth almost anyone can locate these sites. It takes time and you have to know what to look for. I worked in the Nuclear industry for years and have been to many of them. For people who work in the industry this file was a real help because most sites are only accessible by an access road, usually which has no name, and can be hard to find if your new in the area. If you would like the file, send me your e-mail address and I will be happy to forward it to you.
My file list 69 locations which also includes some laboratories such as Los Alamos, Oak Ridge Nat'l. Labs, Argonne Nat'l. Labs, etc. Some sites have up to 3 reactors at each location.
My file marks the location as the junction of the site private access road and the state road which it intersects.
The internet site is www.nukeworker.com. Go to facilities, directions, and a google map with the co-ordinates in the search bar will appear.
I just answered your request and gave 90+ places you do not want to be in a possible nuclear disaster. If time permits I shall upload photo's of each site in case you do not believe the glow in front of you.
After posting I reread all posts and found the one about helping the terrorists sort of funny for all this information is on several government sites which anyone can see.
All power plants fall under "Homeland Security" And not a place to be paying too much attention to.
I fish near a powe plant in Florida and the security carry some heavy duty weapons. and from what the Sheriff deputy told me have the right to use them.
..... I worked in the Nuclear industry for years and have been to many of them.....
I did too over a span of 26 years. The first I worked at was the Westinghouse test reactor at Waltz Mill Pennsylvania in 1961. Later I worked in the Nuclear Weapons program at Sandia Labs, and then with civilian Nuclear Power Plants while working for Stearns Roger, Denver and Energy Incorporated (EI) of Idaho Falls.
I have been to places like the pulse reactors at Sandia, the plutonium processing plant at Rocky Flats, the Pantex facility near Amarillo, the Fort St. Vrain gas cooled reactor, the N reactor at the Hanford Reservation, the reactors at the Idaho Nuclear Engineering Laboratories, Big Rock Point, the Pilgrim plant near Boston and some of the (then) newer reactors such as the Palo Verde reactors in Arizona and the South Texas Project plant.
You beat me to it!
This is what I got beat on posting!
To many gamma rays!
To those who worked in nuclear plants before, what happens to all that nuclear waste?
What to do with nuclear waste has not yet been resolved. It was mandated back in the 1970s that offsite storage be provided but no one wanted the waste in their state.
At long last, the Yucca Mountain Repository site was to be the answer to long-term storage. But in 2010 President Obama withdrew all funding for the project.
So the nuclear power plants still have to store most of their spent fuel and nuclear waste on site, either in spent fuel pools or dry casks.
Some of the waste is reprocessed for uses such as medical, new fuel and nuclear and non-nuclear bombs (so called heavy bombs).
EDIT: I googled the subject and see that the Yucca Mountain site funds are still in contention:
Now with the Japan's earthquakes a lot more people seem to be interested in the topic, and pools show less people support for new plants, hope they get everything sort out and no more radiation leaks occur.
I don't think assembling this kind of info is a good thing. It makes the job for terrorists too easy. I'm satisfied to know, in general, where they are, not lat lon.
I realize that subversive groups could well do this kind of work themselves, but then they might be under surveillance by "officials."
I believe that these coordinates in the page source are the coords attribute of the html code that refers to the image location on the map of the US. When you click on one of the triangles on the US map this will take you to the specific page for that Nuclear Power Plant.
I do not believe that posting such information is going to help any terrorist. The information is easily available online for anyone to see and download.
During the Final Four basketball games I put 144 sites in the USA and Canada on my Garmin. I would have done it faster if I didn't stop to watch the games.
I didn't think it was a problem because the Department of Energy lists all of them on their own web site, so it isn't an issue of national security. At least not the ability to easily find where they are located. I doubt any terrorist would come here to this site for the information.
Its been long known that chemical plants, oil refineries, etc., especially those in populated areas, are much easier targets for terrorists and have almost no protection from attack compared the nuclear power plants.
And of course there are many other even softer targets that are also widely known, but I won't take the time to name them.
I doubt any terrorist would come here to this site for the information.
I know of a couple terrorist here... or at least flame throwers.
If you're going to be doing this, set up a PPOI file with a radius of 80 km - then stay out of range.
Seriously; The likelihood of any issues is next to zero in the US or Canada - we don;t build our reactors on fault lines or next to Tsunami-prone beaches.
Typically, the great unwashed public is becoming anti-nuclear and oil and coal are deemed not 'fgreen' enough - so just what will we power our computers with? Wind power? Solar? When it is coudy and calm I suppose we can all consider deforsting our freezers.
...about the geology of the site choices.
My thought was that it would be a good file to have if it were ever needed. I've already got a world reactor file someone else produced for Google Earth. I'll probably use that as a basis for my own personal use.
As I mention above, it might be useful to have one for chemical plants, refineries, etc too.
Overall the idea is not because of fear of terrorism, but to know which way to go in case you need to move NOW. Heading downwind is never a good idea and having it loaded into my unit is trivial in cost and space, so to me such files could be cheap insurance that I never hope to need to use.
Apparently ajasaro decided to do instead of talk.
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